Man won't submit to security, TSA won't let him fly. Who's right?

Jiro said:
oh wow - curious... how did you like it? "atmosphere-wise"... and what were your thought about series of hijackings at that time?
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I was a teenager (15) flying alone with my brother (12) the first time. We didn't worry about hijackings.

A few years later there was concern about hijackings, mostly to Cuba.
 
yizuman said:
Regarding the Backscatter X-Ray Machines when using it on children...

Federal Statues on Child Pornography....

* 18 USC § 2251 Production of child pornography (mandatory min. 15 yrs; max 30 years)

* 18 USC § 2252 Possession, distribution and receipt of child pornography (mandatory min 5 yrs for distribution or receipt; max 20 years)

* 18 USC § 2252A Possession, distribution and receipt of child pornography (mandatory min 5 yrs for distribution or receipt; max 20 years)



Yiz
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You're stuck on the non-existent child porn tangent of back-scatter technology. It has nothing to do with porn.
 
craigm26 said:
Ok. Ban children. No adult consent from their parents; no fly.
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I think children under 14 or 16 have to be accompanied by a parent, grandparent, or legal guardian that is 18 or over.
 
Glenn said:
You're stuck on the non-existent child porn tangent of back-scatter technology. It has nothing to do with porn.
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That doesn't matter, if you have pictures of nude children that so happens to be not your child, the Federal statues states that it's a violation to manufacture or even possess such images of nude children other than your own child in the privacy of your own home (i.e. scrapbook and what not).

My advice for everyone is to consult an attorney that specializes in child pornography laws. I think you'll be quite surprised how conflicting the law is towards backscatters and that the Feds is ignoring the law that they passed in the first place.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
That doesn't matter, if you have pictures of nude children that so happens to be not your child, the Federal statues states that it's a violation to manufacture or even possess such images of nude children other than your own child in the privacy of your own home (i.e. scrapbook and what not).

My advice for everyone is to consult an attorney that specializes in child pornography laws. I think you'll be quite surprised how conflicting the law is towards backscatters and that the Feds is ignoring the law that they passed in the first place.

Yiz
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Why aren't they going after docs that perform CT scans and X-rays on children?????
 
TXgolfer said:
Why aren't they going after docs that perform CT scans and X-rays on children?????
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The kind of x-rays that hospitals penetrates the flesh into bones and organs.

The Backscatter x-ray only penetrates the clothes and about 1/4 of a way into the flesh.

Hospital x-rays bypasses nudity...

Backscatters do not, they show full nudity.... breasts, vaginas and penises.

Yiz
 
Ya know, funny this, the terrorists started all this, hence the need for security in airports.

At the end, it's us as American citizens that ended up being treated as criminals while Muslims is being exempted from certain provisions in the security checks because our Government doesn't want to offend their religion!

Keep in mind that this is a result of 9 years of mental conditioning garnering towards Americans into accepting the erosion of our Constitutional Rights and Freedom since the TSA program began.

Yiz
 
This was the atmosphere of flying when I was a teen:

"In 1968 there were 27 hijackings and attempted hijackings to Cuba."

Hijacking

"Aircraft hijacking incidents between the United States and Cuba reached their peak in 1969. These incidents have variously been attributed to terrorism, extortion, flight for political asylum, and transportation between the two countries as a result of the ongoing antagonistic Cuba-United States relations.[1] Subsequent measures by both governments contributed to a gradual reduction of reported incidents towards the mid 1970s. Governmental measures included an amendment to Cuban law which made hijacking a crime in 1970, the introduction of metal detectors in US airports in 1973, and a joint agreement between the US and Cuba signed in Sweden to return or prosecute hijackers.[1]"
Aircraft Hijacking: United States
 
yizuman said:
That doesn't matter, if you have pictures of nude children that so happens to be not your child, the Federal statues states that it's a violation to manufacture or even possess such images of nude children other than your own child in the privacy of your own home (i.e. scrapbook and what not).

My advice for everyone is to consult an attorney that specializes in child pornography laws. I think you'll be quite surprised how conflicting the law is towards backscatters and that the Feds is ignoring the law that they passed in the first place.

Yiz
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I'd like to see you cite such federal statutes.
 
yizuman said:
The kind of x-rays that hospitals penetrates the flesh into bones and organs.

The Backscatter x-ray only penetrates the clothes and about 1/4 of a way into the flesh.

Hospital x-rays bypasses nudity...

Backscatters do not, they show full nudity.... breasts, vaginas and penises.

Yiz
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:lol: @ taking that question seriously

*smh* @ people thinking this is the equivalent of child porn
 
(B) advertises, promotes, presents, distributes, or solicits through the mails, or using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, any material or purported material in a manner that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to believe, that the material or purported material is, or contains—
(i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or
(ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
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Tell me where the "sexually explicit conduct" is during TSA screening? This is what I am talking about. Screenings do not have this component; therefore they are not child pornography under the very statutes you are citing.
 
Glenn said:
Tell me where the "sexually explicit conduct" is during TSA screening? This is what I am talking about. Screenings do not have this component; therefore they are not child pornography under the very statutes you are citing.
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Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. See 18 U.S.C. § 2256(2).

Child Exploitation and Obscenity (CEOS): Citizen's Guide to U.S. Federal Child Exploitation and Obscenity Laws on Child Pornography

Yiz
 
Glenn said:
From the very beginning of your citation:

Where is the "sexually explicit conduct" here?
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closet pedophile. just a matter of time till they get caught with their pants down.

btw - see yiz's post above.
 
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