Man won't submit to security, TSA won't let him fly. Who's right?

From the very beginning of your citation:

Where is the "sexually explicit conduct" here?

You are being a selective reader and is ignoring the rest of the Statues that also states....

Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. See 18 U.S.C. § 2256(2). A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.

Please reread carefully. Are you suggesting that it's ok for TSA Agents to look at nude images of children as a direct result from a backscanner machine? Is it also ok for TSA Agents to fully strip a child into the nude, in public as part of their pat down procedures? Is it ok for a TSA Agent to touch the penises and or vaginas of a child as part of their pat down procedures?

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You are being a selective reader and is ignoring the rest of the Statues that also states....



Please reread carefully. Are you suggesting that it's ok for TSA Agents to look at nude images of children as a direct result from a backscanner machine? Is it also ok for TSA Agents to fully strip a child into the nude, in public as part of their pat down procedures? Is it ok for a TSA Agent to touch the penises and or vaginas of a child as part of their pat down procedures?

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if I ever see a TSA agent touching my child on his/her private part... well - you know what's gonna happen. I will be on front page for punching TSA agent. I do not care if you're the President of United States or Pope (except a pediatrician)... you ain't touching my child's private.
 
Ironically, parents can get into trouble for taking innocent pictures of their own bare bottom infants and toddlers but it's OK for strangers to take full frontal and rear nude images of them.
 
Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity. See 18 U.S.C. § 2256(2).

Child Exploitation and Obscenity (CEOS): Citizen's Guide to U.S. Federal Child Exploitation and Obscenity Laws on Child Pornography

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Still doesn't fly with TSA screenings.
A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.
 
Still doesn't fly with TSA screenings.

A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.
The problem with pedophiles is that just about any child image could be sexually suggestive to their minds. They can take a child's simple naked image and let their filthy imaginations do the rest.
 
if I ever see a TSA agent touching my child on his/her private part... well - you know what's gonna happen. I will be on front page for punching TSA agent. I do not care if you're the President of United States or Pope (except a pediatrician)... you ain't touching my child's private.

:gpost:

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The problem with pedophiles is that just about any child image could be sexually suggestive to their minds. They can take a child's simple naked image and let their filthy imaginations do the rest.

Exactly...

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So what do you want? A lower sensitivity of a scanner and no pat-downs?

Precisely...

And adopt Israel's Security measures at all airports, they do work. Their record shows they HAVE CAUGHT terrorists in action BEFORE they ever step foot on a plane.

TSA has no record of catching a terrorist BEFORE boarding a plane, it's only AFTER they got caught while on board. Proof that TSA security measures is a complete failure.

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The problem with pedophiles is that just about any child image could be sexually suggestive to their minds. They can take a child's simple naked image and let their filthy imaginations do the rest.

I just felt sick and I don't even have a child of my own. I can't imagine for parents :(
 
Precisely...

And adopt Israel's Security measures at all airports, they do work. Their record shows they HAVE CAUGHT terrorists in action BEFORE they ever step foot on a plane.
that would mean removing over 60% of TSA agents since most of them do not have military/college education.

TSA has no record of catching a terrorist BEFORE boarding a plane, it's only AFTER they got caught while on board. Proof that TSA security measures is a complete failure.

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and there are dozens of incidents that TSA missed bombs, knives, etc. planted by undercovers.
 
that would mean removing over 60% of TSA agents since most of them do not have military/college education.


and there are dozens of incidents that TSA missed bombs, knives, etc. planted by undercovers.

Yep, I read alot of the undercovers, including national and local news people recording the missed incidents that publicly embarrassed TSA.

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Yep, I read alot of the undercovers, including national and local news people recording the missed incidents that publicly embarrassed TSA.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLqzPAWgDI]YouTube - TSA Screeners Frequently Miss Fake Bombs![/ame]

no captions but there were highlights starting at 0:45

-LAX missed 75% simulated explosives and bomb parts
-O'HARE missed nearly 60%
-San Fransisco security run by private company and they missed 20%

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wop0lXpURhw]YouTube - TSA Administrator Michael Restovich Gets Caught Cheating on Bomb Test[/ame]
The Transportation Security Administration promotes its programs to ensure security by using undercover operatives to test its airport screeners. In one instance, however, the agency thwarted such a test by alerting screeners across the country that it was under way, even providing descriptions of the undercover agents.

The government routinely runs covert tests at airports to ensure that security measures are sufficient to stop a terrorist from bringing something dangerous onto an airplane. Alerting screeners to an undercover officer's timing and appearance would defeat the purpose.

But that's exactly what happened on April 28, 2006, according to an e-mail from a top TSA official who oversees security operations.

In an e-mail to more than a dozen recipients, including airport security staff, the TSA official warned that "several airport authorities and airport police departments have recently received informal notice" of security testing being carried out by the Department of Transportation and the Federal Aviation Administration.

The e-mail from Mike Restovich, assistant administrator of TSA's Office of Security Operations, relayed an alert that described a couple who were testing security. The woman is white but has "an oriental woman's picture" on her identification card, it stated. "They will print a boarding pass from a flight, change the date, get through security (if not noticed) and try to board a flight and place a bag in the overhead."
 
That's funny, the whole time the reporter is standing there waving a fake bomb during the news presentation and nobody is walking up to the reporter wondering WTF is that he's holding? FAIL!!

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Again, you're ignoring the rest of the provisions of the Statues. You're just picking just one sentence and nothing else.

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Pot meet kettle. You have ignored the pertinent text I've highlighted and quoted in this thread.

Is there anyone who agrees with your interpretation of the statutes? I don't know what exactly you're talking about that backs up your interpretation because you haven't highlighted and quoted it.
 
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