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GrendelQ said:
OK, I believe I have been doing so, but will try again: please stop discriminating against and going after deaf people who don't value hearing in the same way you do, who don't exhibit what you think is the "right" behavior, use the "right" language or label themselves in the way you think is most proper.
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Deaf is Deaf right? How come you think you need to go after anybody who talks to CI users?

They can take care of themselves. drphil doesn't need your help and neither does anyone else.

We have gotten to the point where teens and young adults are coming in with successful experiences. They don't need you as spokesman.

Not to insult you, but you are demeaning them when you think they can't talk for themselves.
 
Bottesini said:
Deaf is Deaf right? How come you think you need to go after anybody who talks to CI users?

They can take care of themselves. drphil doesn't need your help and neither does anyone else.

We have gotten to the point where teens and young adults are coming in with successful experiences. They don't need you as spokesman.

Not to insult you, but you are demeaning them when you think they can't talk for themselves.
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I most certainly think they can take care of themselves. But I am not going to stand by and watch -- giving tacit approval -- when a group of people gang up on a deaf person. But it's not that I would do this only in the case of a "CI user" -- I've done so in several cases that had nothing whatsoever to do with CIs, and I've spoken out against a few upstart CI users, or parents, of who came in raw and discriminated against or disrespected other deaf. But more and more, I'm seeing a whole lot of nastiness and energy expended attacking and driving away other deaf people, rather than efforts made to bring deaf together.
 
GrendelQ said:
I most certainly think they can take care of themselves. But I am not going to stand by and watch -- giving tacit approval -- when a group of people gang up on a deaf person. But it's not that I would do this only in the case of a "CI user" -- I've done so in several cases that had nothing whatsoever to do with CIs, and I've spoken out against a few upstart CI users, or parents, of who came in raw and discriminated against or disrespected other deaf. But more and more, I'm seeing a whole lot of nastiness and energy expended attacking and driving away other deaf people, rather than efforts made to bring deaf together.
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And yet you never spoke out against rick48. I'm calling your bluff.

It's time to stop the dance.... Really.
 
Bottesini said:
Deaf is Deaf right? How come you think you need to go after anybody who talks to CI users?

They can take care of themselves. drphil doesn't need your help and neither does anyone else.

We have gotten to the point where teens and young adults are coming in with successful experiences. They don't need you as spokesman.

Not to insult you, but you are demeaning them when you think they can't talk for themselves.
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On the bright side, she is insulting some people(drphil for example) who deserve it, lol.
 
Flip: speaking for myself-Bilaterally deaf with Implant-GrendelQ's comments I am NOT "insulted" . Should I be?

Flip I have read many of your comments- not insulted. Your choice to be "bilateral silence since 12/11-2010. Doesn't effect me in any way. Like you experience silence every time I go swimming.

What is the problem with Rick48 having his daughter implanted without PERMISSION of the "deaf COMMUNITY? Who in Alldeaf.com is personally affected?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
 
posts from hell said:
And yet you never spoke out against rick48. I'm calling your bluff.

It's time to stop the dance.... Really.
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Show me the conversation where Rick48 is discriminating against the deaf and I'll speak up.
 
GrendelQ said:
Show me the conversation where Rick48 is discriminating against the deaf and I'll speak up.
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Too late. I pointed it out several times back then in a locked thread. I even TOLD you and Faire Jour about it. Neither you or Faire Jour would even speak up.

Now I point it out in this discussion you all of a sudden decide you will speak up to it to back your statement up.

If you were true to your word, you would have already spoke up against it back then.

Like I said; that train has left the station a LONG time ago.
 
posts from hell said:
Too late. I pointed it out several times back then in a locked thread. I even TOLD you and Faire Jour about it. Neither you or Faire Jour would even speak up.

Now I point it out in this discussion you all of a sudden decide you will speak up to it to back your statement up.

If you were true to your word, you would have already spoke up against it back then.

Like I said. That train has left the station a LONG time ago.
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This has been your answer every time we have this same conversation about me not speaking out against Rick -- and this must be at least the third time you've brought it up: I ask you to point me to his evil doings and you say it was years ago or it was locked. If it's locked, it's still here somewhere, isn't it? Point me to it, I'll check it out and quote it with my reaction right here. Otherwise, how do you expect me to 1. know what it was he said and 2. to then react appropriately?
 
GrendelQ said:
This has been your answer every time we have this same conversation about me not speaking out against Rick -- and this must be at least the third time you've brought it up: I ask you to point me to his evil doings and you say it was years ago or it was locked. If it's locked, it's still here somewhere, isn't it? Point me to it, I'll check it out and quote it with my reaction right here. Otherwise, how do you expect me to 1. know what it was he said and 2. to then react appropriately?
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I bring it up because it happened, and you know about it. I am not going to waste my time playing your games. I know you are smart, capable, and all that. That's why I keep giving you short handed answers because I KNOW you can fill the blanks in, Mrs. Harvard.

You keep this up, you will keep getting this sort of answer. It's that simple.

I refer you to my rebirth video again. That is the very reason I am not wasting too much energy doing what you desire me to do.
 
drphil said:
Flip: speaking for myself-Bilaterally deaf with Implant-GrendelQ's comments I am NOT "insulted" . Should I be?

Flip I have read many of your comments- not insulted. Your choice to be "bilateral silence since 12/11-2010. Doesn't effect me in any way. Like you experience silence every time I go swimming.

What is the problem with Rick48 having his daughter implanted without PERMISSION of the "deaf COMMUNITY? Who in Alldeaf.com is personally affected?
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It's great to know that you don't feel insulted when GrendelQ insults you. We don't need more mad people around here.

You see, we only approve people who make sure their kids are 100 percent deaf and use ASL 24 hours and worship the emperor of NAD. If you don't we will stone you to death.
 
@PFH, was just about to PM you and found that you've "defriended" me -- WHAT?! Now that's truly :cold: .
 
:confused: How is my speaking out against PFH's ridiculous badgering of bbaseballboy an insult to DRPhil? Are PFH and DrPhil one and the same?
 
GrendelQ said:
:confused: How is my speaking out against PFH's ridiculous badgering of bbaseballboy an insult to DRPhil? Are PFH and DrPhil one and the same?
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:lol: Did you forget you were very worked up this morning about drphil {no capitals} because you thought people shouldn't talk to him about the level of db loss that fits the medical model of deafness?

He isn't insulted, but I think he can answer for himself.
 
GrendelQ said:
This has been your answer every time we have this same conversation about me not speaking out against Rick -- and this must be at least the third time you've brought it up: I ask you to point me to his evil doings and you say it was years ago or it was locked. If it's locked, it's still here somewhere, isn't it? Point me to it, I'll check it out and quote it with my reaction right here. Otherwise, how do you expect me to 1. know what it was he said and 2. to then react appropriately?
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http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids...forcing-deaf-child-wear-ci-6.html#post1756464

Here is one of many. Just read his posting history and it comes out all over the place.
 
I ain't going bring past into here. The past is past. LEAVE THE PAST ALONE. Let's move on.
 
JoeyDeafNinja said:
Then you won't get anywhere now. Have a good day, PFH.
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Of course. I am sure they did not even tell you about the Milan conference leading to the bastardization of education for the Deaf and how that leads up to us this day... :)

It's important to know one's history.

And it's also important to be humble, not an "all knowing" teenager, too.
 
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