How Do Insurance Companies Get Away With Calling HA's a Cosmetic Thing?

iavswn said:
They'll also pay for a choclear implant in many cases. The total cost of that is between $40,000 and $60,000.

Cochlear Implants - National Association of the Deaf
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this is no excuse, but one of the reasons why insurance companies pay for ci's is because too many people who wear hearing aids lock them away in a drawer never to be worn again. it's not right and i don't agree, but this is one explanation for why they do the things they do. i wish the law were different though because everyone has the right to hear.
 
ED run in my family. My theory is, its the food that is sick. 90% of the food out there is useless filler. Empty calories. All you need to eat is lean meats, fruits, vegetables, and nuts(if not allergic). They will provide all the nutrition the body needs. Believe it or not, you dont need dairy.

Most resturant food is ridiculously high fat and salty. Plus the portions are about 3x's what a person needs. Its the same story for processed food bought in the grocery store. Fast food is about the same quality as dog food.

Maybe youre just aware with how disgusting some of the food is out there.


NotSoDeaf said:
Like an eating disorder? I was told that my ED can not be covered- but if I was an alcoholic, they would pay for my treatment.

Guess I need to suck on the bottle a little to pay for the $566 a day program to help with my ED.

I'm glad they'll pay for something that someone can clearly avoid. You dont NEED alcohol. But when it comes to a substance, like food, in which I clearly have a hard time with- it doesnt matter.

I HATE insurance companies.

/end rant.
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Hear Again said:
this is no excuse, but one of the reasons why insurance companies pay for ci's is because too many people who wear hearing aids lock them away in a drawer never to be worn again. it's not right and i don't agree, but this is one explanation for why they do the things they do. i wish the law were different though because everyone has the right to hear.
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I brought up cochlear implants because it makes no sense as far as costs goes. Why would an insurance company pay so much for a cochlear implant for a person that can or could use a hearing aid? Hearing aids typically cost about $1,200 - $5,000 per an ear. That's far less then the cost of a cochlear implant.
 
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iavswn said:
I brought up cochlear implants because it makes no sense as far as cost goes. Why would an insurance company pay so much for a cochlear implant for a person that can or could use a hearing aid? Hearing aids typically cost about $1,200 - $5,000 per an ear. That's far less then the cost of a cochlear implant.
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They don't pay for an implant for a person who can use a hearing aid. CI's are for people who do NOT get benefit from a hearing aid, that is the whole point.
 
faire_jour said:
They don't pay for an implant for a person who can use a hearing aid. CI's are for people who do NOT get benefit from a hearing aid, that is the whole point.
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I believe hear again was using hearing aids before he or she was implanted. I'll let hear again address that though.
 
iavswn said:
I believe hear again was using hearing aids before he or she was implanted. I'll let hear again address that though.
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yes, i was using hearing aids prior to implantation. however, my speech discrimination was 8% for my left ear aided and 22% for my right ear aided. i don't regard that as benefitting from hearing aids, do you?
 
iavswn said:
I believe they go by the degree of hearing loss and type of hearing loss not whether you use hearing aids.

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Cochlear implant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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wrong. they take hearing loss and the fact that a person wears hearing aids into consideration.

if someone is able to benefit from hearing aids, they will not be considered a ci candidate.

if they show little or no benefit from hearing aids, they will be considered a ci candidate.
 
Hear Again said:
yes, i was using hearing aids prior to implantation. however, my speech discrimination was 8% for my left ear aided and 22% for my right ear aided. i don't regard that as benefitting from hearing aids, do you?
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With or without the hearing aids?
 
faire_jour said:
They don't pay for an implant for a person who can use a hearing aid. CI's are for people who do NOT get benefit from a hearing aid, that is the whole point.
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actually faire_jour, ci's are for people who receive little or not benefit from hearing aids.
 
iavswn said:
With or without the hearing aids?
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what is this? the spanish inquisition?

those percentages were with hearing aids.

by the way, i was also using my comtek fm system with direct audio input, so i can assure you that i was receiving the strongest amplification possible.

i was also tested at the largest ci center in the midwest.
 
by the way iavswn, remember that i'm also deafblind. that alone qualifies me for a ci.
 
Hear Again said:
wrong. they take hearing loss and the fact that a person wears hearing aids into consideration.

if someone is able to benefit from hearing aids, they will not be considered a ci candidate.

if they show little or no benefit from hearing aids, they will be considered a ci candidate.
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Any audiologist or hearing center that sales a person a hearing aid knowing they would not benefit from its use is dishonest and possibly a fraud.
 
i should add that during my ci evaluation, my audi turned up my hearing aids at full volume, shouted in my ear and asked me if it hurt (this was communicated to me in tactile sign via my terp). i said no because i could barely hear her.
 
iavswn said:
Any audiologist that sales a person a hearing aid that would not benefit from its use is a dishonest and possibly a fraud.
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i was able to benefit from hearing aids and a comtek fm system for 6 out of the 10 years i had severe-profound hearing loss. my hearing aid audi was *not* a fraud.
 
iavswn,

excuse me, but i think my own ci audi knows more about the qualifications of my being a candidate than you do.
 
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