Arizona governor signs immigration bill

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rockin'robin said:
What's wrong with legalizing ur citizenship status?.....in the first place?...Isn't the word "illegal" basically "against the law"....And what's wrong with learning to speak/sign English?....or write it, as we deafies do when we can't speak it....

I remmy the Boat Lift from Cuba that invaded Miami....my deaf friend worked at the newspaper there, and she said there was so much crime after they came to Miami, she left the city.....we had a lot of "illegals" here in Jax also! Along with more crime, as I believe Castro let the criminals come into the US.
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Cubans are still get green card after they arrive in US, unlike any other immigrants do and it has been since 1960's after rise of communist in Cuba.
 
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rockin'robin said:
What's wrong with legalizing ur citizenship status?.....in the first place?...Isn't the word "illegal" basically "against the law"....And what's wrong with learning to speak/sign English?....or write it, as we deafies do when we can't speak it....

I remmy the Boat Lift from Cuba that invaded Miami....my deaf friend worked at the newspaper there, and she said there was so much crime after they came to Miami, she left the city.....we had a lot of "illegals" here in Jax also! Along with more crime, as I believe Castro let the criminals come into the US.
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You don't know how strict Cuba is. It's extremely difficult for Cubans to get off the island, criminal or no criminal.

Beside, I thought Cubans have "wet feet" law to protect them?
 
souggy said:
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You don't know how strict Cuba is. It's extremely difficult for Cubans to get off the island, criminal or no criminal.

Beside, I thought Cubans have "wet feet" law to protect them?
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Yup, you are right and after they arrive on Florida so they can apply for permanent visa aka green card.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
And Obama is trying to find if this law violate people right so he can put a stop to it!
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Well, Arizona is following a Federal law.

A. IN ADDITION TO ANY VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW, A PERSON IS GUILTY OF WILLFUL FAILURE TO COMPLETE OR CARRY AN ALIEN REGISTRATION DOCUMENT IF THE PERSON IS IN VIOLATION OF 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1304(e) OR 1306(a).
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http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf

As long as there exists a "reasonable suspicion" then a “reasonable attempt” can be done to verify the suspect’s immigration status is. Arizona is actually enforcing and following a Federal law.

Sorry dude.
 
souggy said:
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Found...

"Cuban Refugee Adjustment Act" ca. 1966.
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Well, that was a start. We have a U.S. Refugee program already in place.

Refugee Program - U.S. Interest Section Havana, Cuba

For Cubans...
CUBAN NATIONALS – ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA

To be eligible for refugee status in the U.S. Refugee Admissions program, a Cuban national must demonstrate that he/she belongs to at least one of the following groups:

-Members of persecuted religious minorities.
-Human rights activists.
-Former political prisoners.
-Forced-labor conscripts (1965-1968).
-Persons deprived of their professional credentials or subjected to other disproportionately harsh or discriminatory treatment resulting from their perceived or actual political or religious beliefs or activities.
-Persons who have experienced or fear harm because of their relationship –-family or social -- to someone who falls under one of the preceding categories.
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kokonut said:
Well, Arizona is following a Federal law.



http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf

As long as there exists a "reasonable suspicion" then a “reasonable attempt” can be done to verify the suspect’s immigration status is. Arizona is actually enforcing and following a Federal law.

Sorry dude.
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ICE agents are responsible to take care of illegal immigrants, not state police, sheriff or city police, except for secondary case.

AZ immigrant bills give state police, sheriff, city police an authority to check on immigrants as primary instead of secondary, including US citizens as mistake suspicion. It is unconstitutional to give an authority to police to take care on primary case and it won't live so longer because court will kill it like happened to immigrant bill in Oklahoma in 2 years ago. Polices in AZ don't have same level as ICE agents do due different training level.

Sure, congresses haven't take action on situation about illegal immigrants and they has been fought for over 5 years but won't figure out because of huge immigrant protest in 2006 has impacts on politicians. Federal is supposed to put more ICE agents that based on population, it means CA, AZ, NM and TX are closer to Mexico so more ICE agents are needed.

I do support police to check on immigrant status for secondary case, not primary because they could get mistake so easily due lacking of training, even training to police in AZ is nowhere as good as federal does. It means latino families with brown skin would be easier to be target and same goes with anybody whoever don't speak english so well.

Not all illegal immigrants are commit crime, only some of them since they are looking for better job and not easier to get green card either so that caused them to crossing illegally so Mexico need improve with their economy and have more job openings.
 
If we could keep our borders more secure we wouldn't have to track down illegal aliens inside our country.

How do other countries manage to keep foreigners from sneaking over their borders?
 
Reba said:
If we could keep our borders more secure we wouldn't have to track down illegal aliens inside our country.

How do other countries manage to keep foreigners from sneaking over their borders?
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They are working on it to improve the borders right now.

Mexico government is part of fault too, Mexico has too many drug smugglers and I can't believe about how weaken is Mexico government to get deal with drug smugglers and illegal immigrants.
 
Reba said:
If we could keep our borders more secure we wouldn't have to track down illegal aliens inside our country.

How do other countries manage to keep foreigners from sneaking over their borders?
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Germany got MP5s....

Most of the Eastern countries got AKs.

China got ... um... Tibet and Xinang (or however you spell it) and the Great Wall...

Western countries have crackdown operations.

Well... I know this is highly unfavourable, as even Canadians don't like it, but under the European Union, anyone can travel through or move to any country within boundaries of the EU.
 
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Foxrac said:
ICE agents are responsible to take care of illegal immigrants, not state police, sheriff or city police, except for secondary case.
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This isn't about "taking care of illegal immigrants" but about providing the tools for police as way for them to check up on the current status on persons who may be an illegal alien. Illegal immigration is a crime. It's a fact. I think people are having coniption fits over the thought that our immigration laws actually being enforced. The horrors!

BTW, ICE is a federal agency that helps enforce the nation's immigration and customs laws and they can only do so much.
About U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
 
souggy said:
...Well... I know this is highly unfavourable, as even Canadians don't like it, but under the European Union, anyone can travel through or move to any country within boundaries of the EU.
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What about people coming from outside the EU?
 
Foxrac said:
Not all illegal immigrants are commit crime, only some of them since they are looking for better job and not easier to get green card either so that caused them to crossing illegally so Mexico need improve with their economy and have more job openings.
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Er, being here illegally is a crime in the first place. So, yes, all illegal immigrants have committed a crime and that was to enter illegally in the United States without proper documentations.
 
kokonut said:
This isn't about "taking care of illegal immigrants" but about providing the tools for police as way for them to check up on the current status on persons who may be an illegal alien. Illegal immigration is a crime. It's a fact. I think people are having coniption fits over the thought that our immigration laws actually being enforced. The horrors!

BTW, ICE is a federal agency that helps enforce the nation's immigration and customs laws and they can only do so much.
About U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
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You misunderstood my post so let me rephrase for you, I means ICE agents are getting deal with illegal immigrants, same word for taking care, such as arrest, deportation, court, detention, etc.

Polices are supposed to focus on crime that anyone commit but not any illegal immigrants whoever haven't commit crime yet so it is waste for them to do job since ICE agents is responsible to crack on illegal immigrants since police will do if it is secondary case after suspect of crime.

Illegal immigrants aren't crime but more civil issue so they are punishable by federal immigrant law, of course.

Last paragraph, I already know that ICE is part of federal agency so I'm not dumb about anything so DUH!!!!
 
Reba said:
What about people coming from outside the EU?
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LOL.

I know my European friends say that Americans and Canadians are a bunch of pussies compared to them. Why? Refer to picture above.
 
Ah, heck. They committed a crime just being here, and if all we do is deport them then they will just keep coming back so....

We should throw them all in jail and support them for the rest of their lives.

Now why didn't I think of that?
 
kokonut said:
Er, being here illegally is a crime in the first place. So, yes, all illegal immigrants have committed a crime and that was to enter illegally in the United States without proper documentations.
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That's just ridiculous thing about what you are saying.

Illegal immigrants alone are CIVIL issue, not crime but it will be crime if they commit crime, such as murder, rape, theft, assault, etc so police will have check their immigrant status as secondary after suspect of crime.

Again, not ALL illegal immigrants are commit crime but just some of them.
 
Berry said:
Ah, heck. They committed a crime just being here, and if all we do is deport them then they will just keep coming back so....

We should throw them all in jail and support them for the rest of their lives.

Now why didn't I think of that?
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Then open up new jobs... reduce unemployment rate.

Yeah... I think it's sustainable. Don't you? For every four illegals in jail, a newly-employed American can support with his tax dollars since there's no more illegals stealing jobs from the average Joes.
 
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