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Not every baby is going to get adopted.....

so? if they're not adopted, then they're placed in foster homes. that's better than being aborted.

just because there's the potential for a child not to be adopted doesn't mean that's justification for abortion.

i was adopted as soon as i was released from the neonatal icu. my birth mother could have easily aborted me, but she didn't and for that, i am thankful.
 
byrdie,

you're deaf/hoh. how would you like it if your birth mother decided to abort you because you couldn't hear?

that's *not* right.
 
Go to a parentin' class, or get a book from the library to learn how to raise a kid, parents can teach/or help and etc., etc. I am sure there are several options she could get help. It's what life is all about. Learn.

exactly!
 
I also wanted to add that if my daughter was a live today, a minor, and she came to me to tell me that she is pregnant--I would have her go and get an abortion.

:shock: which could in fact ruin your relationship with your daughter. The idea of forcing a minor to have an abortion just strikes me as a bit ridiculous.

I know the article is outdated but I still want to share it. :)

Many states have considered or adopted laws that would prevent teens under 18 from obtaining an abortion unless they involve a parent or go to court.

A majority of minors who have abortions do so with at least one parent's knowledge. Based on a national survey of more than 1,500 unmarried minors having abortions in states without parental involvement laws, 61% of young women discussed the decision to have an abortion with at least one of their parents. The younger the teen, the more likely she was to have voluntarily discussed the abortion with her parent. In fact, 90% of minors under 15 involved a parent in their decision to have an abortion. A majority of teens who did not talk to a parent turned to another trusted adult.


The minority of teens who do not voluntarily consult a parent generally have good reasons not to. Many come from families where such an announcement would only exacerbate an already volatile or dysfunctional family situation. One study showed that 22% of teens who did not tell a parent about their abortion decision feared that, if they told their parents, they would be kicked out of the house. More than 8% feared that they would be physically abused because their parents had beaten them before. Of those who did not tell a parent, 12% did not live with either parent and 14% had parents who abused drugs or alcohol.

American Civil Liberties Union : Laws Restricting Teenagers' Access to Abortion
 
:shock: which could in fact ruin your relationship with your daughter. The idea of forcing a minor to have an abortion just strikes me as a bit ridiculous.

I know the article is outdated but I still want to share it. :)








American Civil Liberties Union : Laws Restricting Teenagers' Access to Abortion

That's a very presumtuous thing to say. You don't know what his relationship to his daughter would be. Perhaps, it would help their relationship. Communication is the key. If you have an open dialog with the girl and explain this is probably the best option for her, it doesn't have to trash the relationship.

Not every situation turns out like yours did, Cheri.
 

Yep, it's the same thing/idea when parents teach a child to learn how to walk, how to use spoon/cup and so forth. Why can't the parents teach their child to learn how to raise her own kid, too if a parent/or both parents teach her child about names of the body without feelin' ashamed ? I just want a child to fully trust in parents and be an open honest about it. I don't want a child to feel " confused " or " uncertain " about child's future. It's the parents' responsibility to sit down with their daughter and discuss everythin' - not just part of it, but EVERYTHIN'. The most important is to be there for daughter when ever she needs them most. Show some support when she needs it. It's what the parents are for when kids call them " mommy "/or " mom " and " daddy "/or " dad ". :)
 
Yep, it's the same thing/idea when parents teach a child to learn how to walk, how to use spoon/cup and so forth. Why can't the parents teach their child to learn how to raise her own kid, too if a parent/or both parents teach her child about names of the body without feelin' ashamed ? I just want a child to fully trust in parents and be an open honest about it. I don't want a child to feel " confused " or " uncertain " about child's future. It's the parents' responsibility to sit down with their daughter and discuss everythin' - not just part of it, but EVERYTHIN'. The most important is to be there for daughter when ever she needs them most. Show some support when she needs it. It's what the parents are for when kids call them " mommy "/or " mom " and " daddy "/or " dad ". :)

Why couldn't those same parents teach their child/children about birth control in the first place!!



If we want to sit and educate them. Educate them about prevention!

Educate them about birth control. Don't sit back and wait til "she" gets pregnant. Then educate her about abortions or adoptions.

Get my drift?
 
That's a very presumtuous thing to say. You don't know what his relationship to his daughter would be. Perhaps, it would help their relationship. Communication is the key. If you have an open dialog with the girl and explain this is probably the best option for her, it doesn't have to trash the relationship.

Are you a parent? No, but I am. :)

Listening is a key component to communication, and be able to be open with mutual respect. Telling and forcing a minor to have an abortion is not communication. That would make the minor think that she is unimportant and her feelings, concerns and decisions does not matter. Kids like it when they can freely open up and share their thoughts, feelings, and concerns with their parents WITHOUT being judged that equal good communication between parents and child.
 
Are you a parent? No, but I am. :)

Listening is a key component to communication, and be able to be open with mutual respect. Telling and forcing a minor to have an abortion is not communication. That would make the minor think that she is unimportant and her feelings/decisions does not matter. Kids like it when they can freely open up and share their thoughts, feelings, and concerns with their parents WITHOUT being judged that equal good communication between parents and child.

I don't have to be parent to understand this.

You're assuming there would be force involved in every situation. I'm arguing that's not always the case. Just because you were doesn't mean that every teenager is. Sometimes, it's a well thought out decision and the teenager isn't emotionally scarred from it. In fact, in some situations, carrying the child to term would be more emotionally scarring for the teen.
 
Are you a parent? No, but I am. :)

Listening is a key component to communication, and be able to be open with mutual respect. Telling and forcing a minor to have an abortion is not communication. That would make the minor think that she is unimportant and her feelings/decisions does not matter. Kids like it when they can freely open up and share their thoughts, feelings, and concerns with their parents WITHOUT being judged that equal good communication between parents and child.

It should not even have to resort to that.

Talk to them about birth control.

Communicate with your child. Talk to them.
 
I don't have to be parent to understand this.

You're assuming there would be force involved in every situation. I'm arguing that's not always the case. Just because you were doesn't mean that every teenager is. Sometimes, it's a well thought out decision and the teenager isn't emotionally scarred from it. In fact, in some situations, carrying the child to term would be more emotionally scarring for the teen.

:confused: I don't know what you are talking about, we are not on the same page here, You're talking about something way off track.

Byrdie714 said that if his daughter was alive today, and she told him that she is pregnant, He would have her go get an abortion. He already made up his mind what he wants for his daughter. How is that open communication? It's not.
 
:confused: I don't know what you are talking about, we are not on the same page here, You're talking about something way off track.

Byrdie714 said that if his daughter was alive today, and she told him that she is pregnant, He would have her go get an abortion. He already made up his mind what he wants for his daughter. How is that open communication? It's not.

How is it right to interject your own iinterpretation in a decision he would make for his daughter. How is that right? It's not!

You have no say in what decision he would or would not make. You only have say in how you raise your own children.
 
How is it right to interject your own iinterpretation in a decision he would make for his daughter. How is that right? It's not!

You have no say in what decision he would or would not make. You only have say in how you raise your own children.

I was not making any decisions for him or his daughter for all that matters, I was telling him what could happen if he done what he did.

I'm entitle to my opinion, so deal with it. :)
 
Yes but the law doesn't look at it that way........



If you live at home with your parents, they have the final say if you will get an abortion or not.



Did you ever go to college to be successful?

Nope,my parents have no rights to tell me to get abortion because I was 18 years old that time and I lived with a roommate. But now I am back to live with my mom for while, cuz I am on sec 8 wait list. And yes I am still college student.
 
Yes but the law doesn't look at it that way........



If you live at home with your parents, they have the final say if you will get an abortion or not.



oops sorry I misunderstand what you said. Well, nah my mom wouldn't let me abortion ever. She's very against abortion.
 
Did you ever go to college to be successful?

Oh, wow, how rude of you. Just cos somebody else has a child at young age does not make her less successful.

Recurrently, Melika did go to BSD (Basic Skilled Development) [sorta of like GED] last September 2008 until she completes her needs before she can go to the real college. I don't know her plans are but, probably for only two years, I think? Ask her. As for the real college, she is not decided where she want to go yet, she just wants to complete BSD first. So I'm sure she will decide wherever she go when she is done with her needs and her BSD. I strongly am sure she can do it.

Clearly, not every young mother is unsuccessful. So, just don't assume a such thing... Thanks~
 
I was not making any decisions for him or his daughter for all that matters, I was telling him what could happen if he done what he did.

I'm entitle to my opinion, so deal with it. :)

You are entitled to your opinion, but making a blanket statement like you did is inaccurate. Just because it happened to you doesn't mean it's going to happen to another teen. Deal with that.
 
A family member of mine had an abortion when she was a teenager and now she is 40 years old. She said her parents had the final say and she thanks them for making the decision for her cuz she realized that she was too emotional at the time as a kid. I remember asking her if she had any regrets..she said that she does....u know what the regret was? Getting pregnant in the first place.
 
Why couldn't those same parents teach their child/children about birth control in the first place!!

Well, if health education at Junior or High school don't help since they did taught teen girls/boys about birth control pills to prevent gettin' pregnant -- it also means the same thing will happen at home, too. Just because, teen girls want to try it since there's soo much " talks " around from teen girls' friends about doin' their sex and that their parents are cool with it. I know, NOT all of teen girls are like that, but it can happen nowsdays. Same thing with marijuana, they want to try it just because of their friends are doin' it, too in despite of their parents are against it.

If we want to sit and educate them. Educate them about prevention!

Already explain above.

Educate them about birth control. Don't sit back and wait til "she" gets pregnant. Then educate her about abortions or adoptions.

Get my drift?

Then, take her to where the doctors throw the babies away in trash. Show it to her in this REAL life, not just " talk " but, to walk with it by showin' it. Same goes for adoption. Take her to the adoption agency and question them herself. It may help her to THINK things over before she can make up her own mind.
 
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