Why the World Hates the US?

[Foxrac]

Let's briefly review history.

Hitler invaded countries.

Hussein invaded countries. (Did you forget Iran and Kuwait?)


Hitler committed genocide against ethnic groups.

Hussein committed genocide against ethnic groups. (Did you forget the Kurds?)


Hitler had his political enemies killed.

Hussein had his political enemies killed.

Oh really, I'm surprised about similar comparison on between Hussein and Hitler.

 

[Byrdie714]

Both of Byrdie and Liebling, I'm suggest you to work out via PM instead of here.

Finally, not all countries are hate USA, only some of them, especially in muslim countries.

It's called debating and it's hard to debate with an outside individual who doesn't understand American politics and yet they claim they do as this individual does.

But rest assure, there are countries that don't like Germany.....

 

[Byrdie714]

For whatever reason that you work for the American military, the result is the same. Your work supports American military missions all over the world, and I am grateful for that. However, you must realize that it seems very hypocritical to say that you don't approve of American military fighting in Iraq but you work for that same military. It's true that you work in Germany, not Iraq, but Germany is a very important support facility to the war in Iraq. Many American soldiers and airmen pass thru the Germany bases on their ways to and from Iraq. If the bases in Germany were closed, it would create a hardship for the American forces. So, it's quite clear that your work does support the war in Iraq. I'm not complaining; I'm glad that the German bases are available to support the war.



I'm not discussing how Americans feel. I was asking about your rationalization for working for a military whose missions you disagree with.



That's my point. If you are against the war in Iraq, why do you help Americans fight that war? The same pot of money that pays your salary also pays for the war in Iraq.



But you do support the soldiers fighting the war in Iraq because your job helps them to do that. If you support the war in Iraq, then that's consistent with your employment, and that's OK. But if you are against American soldiers fighting in Iraq, then your employment is inconsistent with your stated beliefs. That's all.

 

[Byrdie714]

I am surprise because I thought you know the history. Anyway there´re no comparison between Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hilter because they did total different. Saddam Hussein was cruel to his own people but he did not attack our country but Aldolf Hilter does. Adolf Hilter send his soliders to attack other countries to kill innocnent people which Saddam Hussein doesn´t. Get it?

Simple question: Why Iraq war for? We agree that it´s unnecassary war because Saddam did not attack our countries, don´t he?

Let's briefly review history.

Hitler invaded countries.

Hussein invaded countries. (Did you forget Iran and Kuwait?)


Hitler committed genocide against ethnic groups.

Hussein committed genocide against ethnic groups. (Did you forget the Kurds?)


Hitler had his political enemies killed.

Hussein had his political enemies killed.

:P

So Libeling, do you 'get it?'

 

[webexplorer]

It is not necessary for you are picking on someone that you don't agree.

Nothing is perfect. In fact, I know some soldiers are not happy in Iraq. Some of them are victimized or serious traumas from killing Iraqi people or under attacks. There are a lot of uncivilized people in Middle East, and they brave to believe in religious by telling them to kill people which is not faith themselves because they are brainwashed.


Liebling made a choice to live in Germany with her husband and her children. They are very happy to be there. I am sure that there are a lot of German people are smart than American people. But, I am not saying that we are stupid and lazy. We are virtually victimized of what was happened at World Trade Center, and we were cheated in many things going on in the political events that we don't hear very often.

The problem is that some of us believe everything in the political issues on the news everyday. The information you see or hear which seem true, but you still have to sit back and think about it. It does not matter that it has the fact or not because we have a lot of propaganda in our country. The censorship is still controlled by Time Warner for media news on national television and included some U.S. Gov't's controls and Evangelicals. I still think that they (media) are baby.

Reba told us that she is retired from U.S. Army. She is what she believe in the political issues as well. Sometimes, she is right. It seems that she insists that she is always right all the times. We have the Freedom of Speech anything we wish to talk about. I assume that she has never visited in Iraq or enemy countries. She is really lucky that she stays in our country, and she probably glad to be retired. She is always good at spot things on AD like something missing or error information. Perhaps, she has hawk's eyes. I really enjoy to read Reba's comments. I wish that we have to understand that we need balance between good and bad on our comments.

Let's go back to Liebling. She works at a medical lab for the U.S. military. What is wrong with her job? She cares about our country. Without her, where can we send our injury soldiers in Germany with no available space for them? For sake, she speaks in English and German. Many of us don't know what is REALLY happen in our news so the other country like Germany knows the other side of the news so they want to inform us. We have to learn to compromise the information to come out which one is fact or not. It is not that simple because things are changed quickly.

 

[Chase]

I'm sure Reba is thrilled to discovered she was in the army. And I think the people referred to do not sit back and believe the liberal media.

Other than that and maybe a half-dozen other misconceptions, all that imagined hooey is as close to the truth as the Nazi history we're learning.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I'm sure we all "get it," at least the part about who knows or does not know history. In your defense of Adolf, do you really believe he and his followers were not cruel to Germany's own people? Hundreds of thousands of Jews slaughtered were men, women, and children with full German citizenship. I visited Dachau near Munich and saw the photos, read the rolls. Many, many deaf and blind and other "defective" Germans were also put to death.

As I've pointed out several times, you have no idea what constitutes logical comparison, just as you had no clue to analogy. You just throw it all against the outhouse wall, hoping some of it will sticks and causes pain or problems.

No, the hatred and envy are easy to "get."

Me defense Adolf? Can you show me where I defend Adolf Hilter? I do not see anything that I say that Hilter never cruel to his own people? Please show me where?

You misinterpreted my post... I said that Saddam was cruel to his own people and didn´t attack our country which Hilter does. Which mean is he was cruel to his own people and attack other countries to kill innocent people. Please re-read my post carefully.

 

[Reba]

...Reba told us that she is retired from U.S. Army.

Navy, please, Navy! (Nothing against the Army. )

She is what she believe in the political issues as well. Sometimes, she is right. It seems that she insists that she is always right all the times.

Not always.

We have the Freedom of Speech anything we wish to talk about.

Yes!

I assume that she has never visited in Iraq or enemy countries. She is really lucky that she stays in our country, and she probably glad to be retired.

Actually, I'm sorry that I retired when I did. I wish I could have stayed longer but I wasn't needed. I did volunteer for the first Gulf War but my rating wasn't in demand then.

She is always good at spot things on AD like something missing or error information. Perhaps, she has hawk's eyes.

My vision did improve after laser surgery.

Years working as an editor developed my reading "eye". It's just second nature.

I really enjoy to read Reba's comments. I wish that we have to understand that we need balance between good and bad on our comments.

Yes, and I think there is a good variety of viewpoints here at AD.

Let's go back to Liebling. She works at a medical lab for the U.S. military. What is wrong with her job? She cares about our country. Without her, where can we send our injury soldiers in Germany with no available space for them?

I agree. That's why I posted that I'm glad that the German base is available for taking care of American wounded military members, and as a support base for the war effort. I have no ill feelings for local people working on military bases. It's good for our military, and good for the local German economy.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It is not necessary for you are picking on someone that you don't agree.

Nothing is perfect. In fact, I know some soldiers are not happy in Iraq. Some of them are victimized or serious traumas from killing Iraqi people or under attacks. There are a lot of uncivilized people in Middle East, and they brave to believe in religious by telling them to kill people which is not faith themselves because they are brainwashed.


Liebling made a choice to live in Germany with her husband and her children. They are very happy to be there. I am sure that there are a lot of German people are smart than American people. But, I am not saying that we are stupid and lazy. We are virtually victimized of what was happened at World Trade Center, and we were cheated in many things going on in the political events that we don't hear very often.

The problem is that some of us believe everything in the political issues on the news everyday. The information you see or hear which seem true, but you still have to sit back and think about it. It does not matter that it has the fact or not because we have a lot of propaganda in our country. The censorship is still controlled by Time Warner for media news on national television and included some U.S. Gov't's controls and Evangelicals. I still think that they (media) are baby.

Reba told us that she is retired from U.S. Army. She is what she believe in the political issues as well. Sometimes, she is right. It seems that she insists that she is always right all the times. We have the Freedom of Speech anything we wish to talk about. I assume that she has never visited in Iraq or enemy countries. She is really lucky that she stays in our country, and she probably glad to be retired. She is always good at spot things on AD like something missing or error information. Perhaps, she has hawk's eyes. I really enjoy to read Reba's comments. I wish that we have to understand that we need balance between good and bad on our comments.

Let's go back to Liebling. She works at a medical lab for the U.S. military. What is wrong with her job? She cares about our country. Without her, where can we send our injury soldiers in Germany with no available space for them? For sake, she speaks in English and German. Many of us don't know what is REALLY happen in our news so the other country like Germany knows the other side of the news so they want to inform us. We have to learn to compromise the information to come out which one is fact or not. It is not that simple because things are changed quickly.

for open your mind. I am glad that you know where I come from and know some soliders disagree with Iraq issues, that´s what I tried to say many times. All what I hear here is I bash Americans and label me as hyproical because I work for US Army... :roll:

 

[Chase]

Me defense Adolf? Can you show me where I defend Adolf Hilter? I do not see anything that I say that Hilter never cruel to his own people? Please show me where?

You misinterpreted my post... I said that Saddam was cruel to his own people and didn´t attack our country which Hilter does. Which mean is he was cruel to his own people and attack other countries to kill innocent people. Please re-read my post carefully.

I read very carefully, even through all the denial and ignorant double-talk. I repeat, it's easy to "get."

 

[Reba]

I'm sure Reba is thrilled to discovered she was in the army.

I have nothing against ground pounders but it was the Navy for me. Call me "Swabby". :P

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I read very carefully, even through all the denial and ignorant double-talk. I repeat, it's easy to "get."

If you read carefully then please show me where I defend Adolf Hilter and said that Adolf never cruel to his people.

 

[Chase]

Yeah, well, what's an error in fact here and there and over there and maybe over here again?

"Over hill over dale, we will hit the dusty trail as those caissons go anchor aweigh!" No, wait, caissons don't float. They go off into the wild blue yonder. No. Oh, who cares? I'll deny I messed up the song later. Semper fi.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

For whatever reason that you work for the American military, the result is the same. Your work supports American military missions all over the world, and I am grateful for that. However, you must realize that it seems very hypocritical to say that you don't approve of American military fighting in Iraq but you work for that same military. It's true that you work in Germany, not Iraq, but Germany is a very important support facility to the war in Iraq. Many American soldiers and airmen pass thru the Germany bases on their ways to and from Iraq. If the bases in Germany were closed, it would create a hardship for the American forces. So, it's quite clear that your work does support the war in Iraq. I'm not complaining; I'm glad that the German bases are available to support the war.



I'm not discussing how Americans feel. I was asking about your rationalization for working for a military whose missions you disagree with.



That's my point. If you are against the war in Iraq, why do you help Americans fight that war? The same pot of money that pays your salary also pays for the war in Iraq.



But you do support the soldiers fighting the war in Iraq because your job helps them to do that. If you support the war in Iraq, then that's consistent with your employment, and that's OK. But if you are against American soldiers fighting in Iraq, then your employment is inconsistent with your stated beliefs. That's all.

It doesn´t mean that I MUST agree all the time because I work for US Army caserne. I can agree and disagree what I feel like to, no matter either I work or live. I am not alone who see that view over Iraq war issues.

It does the same example, that it doesn´t mean that I MUST agree with German law all the time because I live in Germany. :roll:

I agree that army casernes are everywhere in different countries in the world to defend our countries against emenies. I disagree for go to attack enemies´s countries to kill innocnent people without proof.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yeah, well, what's an error in fact here and there and over there and maybe over here again?

"Over hill over dale, we will hit the dusty trail as those caissons go anchor aweigh!" No, wait, caissons don't float. They go off into the wild blue yonder. No. Oh, who cares? I'll deny I messed up the song later. Semper fi.

You deny it...

Okkaayyy, never mind...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well, USA isn't alone about different political system that cause you had turned off, Many countries, such as Mexico has some ridiculous stuff in political system, such as immigrant law issue. We are in different system and you don't need to be worry or complain about us.

I already explain that there´re cons/pros in every countries in the world. I support people, not policial system.

Anyway, I am not here to complaint or worry but support the people who share their experiences with me.

I'm not want damn to follow Europe's law, no thanks.

This is your choice. I do not influence your decision but follow your own choice what you feel in your heart. Like what I say before that each person is different. What I feel is different as you and others... I wasn´t realized that someone took my post personal because I prefer to be European, not American.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Let's briefly review history.

Hitler invaded countries.

Hussein invaded countries. (Did you forget Iran and Kuwait?)


Hitler committed genocide against ethnic groups.

Hussein committed genocide against ethnic groups. (Did you forget the Kurds?)


Hitler had his political enemies killed.

Hussein had his political enemies killed.

No what and how Hilter did the worst!!!!!!!!! Can you please tell me how many countries, Hilter let his soliders to attack to compare with 2 countries, Hussein attacked to?

Hussein and 2 countries are enemy country for ages and attack each other which Hilter and other countries doesn´t. This is a difference. Hilter started to attack them... they were no emeny to him until WWII.......

Hussein and Hilter killed their own people. Hilter made his people, politicans, and other people from different countries suffer to death in camp and make them slave. Hussein?

The people were scared of Hilter and Hussein and must obey them. They would end to kill if they disowned them.

I tried to compare both... Nope, what and how Hussein and Hilter did is total different.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Hundreds of thousands of Jews slaughtered were men, women, and children with full German citizenship. I visited Dachau near Munich and saw the photos, read the rolls. Many, many deaf and blind and other "defective" Germans were also put to death.

I shared about this issues where I visited to in my thread "Germany culture" at few years ago. So?

As I've pointed out several times, you have no idea what constitutes logical comparison, just as you had no clue to analogy. You just throw it all against the outhouse wall, hoping some of it will sticks and causes pain or problems.

I can see that you tried to belittle me here because you don´t like my view. You can´t change me. It´s my POV, period. I do not want to argue with you or anyone or belittle you or anyone that´s because I am not an American and have different view as you and some ADers. I share what I know and what I experience. I accept what you are but I am allow to agree or disagree with you in polite and respectful way, not belittle you ...

I am sorry if you don´t like my view but you has no reason to take my post personal when I see different as you. This is debate forum... You must have know it.

 

[Chase]

I can see that you tried to belittle me here because you don´t like my view.

It's always easier to let people belittle themselves. Thank you.

You can´t change me.

Always a fair stance for debate. Again, there's no need to belittle those whose own words do it so well.

. . . you has no reason to take my post personal when I see different as you.

Nothing taken personally. It's just countering ignorance and hatred one misinformed bigot at a time.

 

[darkage]

Let's briefly review history.

Hussein invaded countries. (Did you forget Iran and Kuwait?)

Is this typo?

Iraq, not Iran.

Do u remember Iraq and Iran were in war?
Most time, Iraq use chemical for warfare to kill his own people and Iran's people.