Why the World Hates the US?

[Liebling:-)))]

Talk about being ignorant and uneducated because you can't answer my question about why you degrade/bad mouth us Americans when you are working for us!

And it takes you 5 days to respond to my post when you been posting in here all this time? :roll:

Puh-leez! :roll:

Did you know AllDeaf Rules #3?

No, I choose to ignore your post because you made an unnecassary post and also provoke as well toward me which is an unacceptance. You took my post serious because I quoted to convince someone´s post. I has no idea why you are upset for when other ADers said the same things as me?... Anyway, Alex welcome everyone from different countries to share, not just America. I really have no problem if anyone want or don´t want to be American or European because each person is different. This is understandable but you?

As what you accuse is a false which is an unacceptance that´s why I said is your post show itself ignorant and uneducation because if I hate America or negative about America what you claimed then I would not visit America or don´t want to friend with Americans, or not here, don´t I? I get along well with American co-workers because we are open mind and share cons/pros about our countries. You don´t know what and how American co-workers feel about Iraq war issues. That´s why I said is your ignorant and uneducation because you make a simple assumption without know anything.

You have to face sometimes when there´re positive or negative about our country and what we thought about our countries, etc.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I've noticed many civilian workers at foreign posts can be the worst haters of the U.S. Lots of them take our money and blackmarket our goods but envy and guilt cause them to bite the hand that feeds them. Very Freudian.

I never heard... It could be that you involve with wrong people... *shrug*

 

[Chase]

Did you know AllDeaf Rules #3?

I'm very surprised this member knows Rule #3. Or #8, #9, #10 for that matter. Certainly none of the rules for logical argument.

Just bash and attack at random with too-large signature repetitiously, making up factoids as needed.

 

[Reba]

Let's make this clear.

Liebling, do you support the U.S. military being stationed and fighting in countries all over the world?

If yes, then it makes sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany.

If no, then it does not make sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany, unless you do it just for the money. That would make sense, and that would also be hypocritical.

You can see why people are confused by your statements. If you say that you don't support U.S. military involvement overseas, we can't understand why you want to continue working for the U.S. military. Your work in the support services makes it possible for the U.S. military to continue their mission overseas.

 

[rockdrummer]

I think we all can agree that there are pros and cons within every country around the world. History shows us that there have been some hidious acts committed by many countries and even by cultures that date back to the begining of time. One would only hope that we can live and learn from the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately in todays world there are many things to consider. I know that my country (USA) is not perfect but I also know that there is no perfect country. I also don't agree with all of the involvement of the US and alot of that is due to my own ignorance.

Here is something to consider. Do your homework and find out the real resons the USA has been involved in other coutries affairs. Once you are armed with that information, ask yourself where the world would be if we didn't get involved. Consider the genocide that would have occured if the US didn't step in.

I hate the fact that much of our current involvement is over oil but I also see the reasons for it. In my view we should cut our dependancies on oil but that is a discussion for another thread.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Let's make this clear.

Liebling, do you support the U.S. military being stationed and fighting in countries all over the world?

If yes, then it makes sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany.

If no, then it does not make sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany, unless you do it just for the money. That would make sense, and that would also be hypocritical.

You can see why people are confused by your statements. If you say that you don't support U.S. military involvement overseas, we can't understand why you want to continue working for the U.S. military. Your work in the support services makes it possible for the U.S. military to continue their mission overseas.

Look yourself what you are saying here... *shake my head quietly*

What I choose to work for is none of your business. You make a lot of assumption without know what and how Americans feel... because I know them, not you. I feel that you look for an agruement and defend US political against your own people. I support people and their feeling for policital issues.

I repeat dozen of times for past years to you that I SUPPORT troops for defend our countries against attackers (terrorists), NOT go to attack other countries for unnecassary war. Soliders (veterans) say the same thing. Get it? If you can´t get it then I can´t help you.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I think we all can agree that there are pros and cons within every country around the world. History shows us that there have been some hidious acts committed by many countries and even by cultures that date back to the begining of time. One would only hope that we can live and learn from the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately in todays world there are many things to consider. I know that my country (USA) is not perfect but I also know that there is no perfect country. I also don't agree with all of the involvement of the US and alot of that is due to my own ignorance.

Here is something to consider. Do your homework and find out the real resons the USA has been involved in other coutries affairs. Once you are armed with that information, ask yourself where the world would be if we didn't get involved. Consider the genocide that would have occured if the US didn't step in.

I hate the fact that much of our current involvement is over oil but I also see the reasons for it. In my view we should cut our dependancies on oil but that is a discussion for another thread.

Exactly and for post. Yes, I agree that our countries are never being prefect and always have cons/pros.

 

[Byrdie714]

Look yourself what you are saying here... *shake my head quietly*

What I choose to work for is none of your business. You make a lot of assumption without know what and how Americans feel... because I know them, not you. I feel that you look for an agruement and defend US political against your own people. I support people and their feeling for policital issues.

I repeat dozen of times for past years to you that I SUPPORT troops for defend our countries against attackers (terrorists), NOT go to attack other countries for unnecassary war. Soliders (veterans) say the same thing. Get it? If you can´t get it then I can´t help you.

Whoppie Doo....you know an American!

There is a difference between knowing an American and being an American!

 

[Byrdie714]

Did you know AllDeaf Rules #3?

No, I choose to ignore your post because you made an unnecassary post and also provoke as well toward me which is an unacceptance. You took my post serious because I quoted to convince someone´s post. I has no idea why you are upset for when other ADers said the same things as me?... Anyway, Alex welcome everyone from different countries to share, not just America. I really have no problem if anyone want or don´t want to be American or European because each person is different. This is understandable but you?

As what you accuse is a false which is an unacceptance that´s why I said is your post show itself ignorant and uneducation because if I hate America or negative about America what you claimed then I would not visit America or don´t want to friend with Americans, or not here, don´t I? I get along well with American co-workers because we are open mind and share cons/pros about our countries. You don´t know what and how American co-workers feel about Iraq war issues. That´s why I said is your ignorant and uneducation because you make a simple assumption without know anything.

You have to face sometimes when there´re positive or negative about our country and what we thought about our countries, etc.

How can you choose to ignore my post when you are replying to my post? As for the American co-workers chances are high that their feelings and sentiments are the same as us over here on the continent.

I'm very surprised this member knows Rule #3. Or #8, #9, #10 for that matter. Certainly none of the rules for logical argument.

Just bash and attack at random with too-large signature repetitiously, making up factoids as needed.

Of course, pick-n-choose the rules that only apply to them and not to anyone else.

Let's make this clear.

Liebling, do you support the U.S. military being stationed and fighting in countries all over the world?

If yes, then it makes sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany.

If no, then it does not make sense for you to work for the U.S. military in Germany, unless you do it just for the money. That would make sense, and that would also be hypocritical.

You can see why people are confused by your statements. If you say that you don't support U.S. military involvement overseas, we can't understand why you want to continue working for the U.S. military. Your work in the support services makes it possible for the U.S. military to continue their mission overseas.

Reba! Your post is exactly what I been asking Liebling all this time and it still isn't getting anywhere.

Look yourself what you are saying here... *shake my head quietly*

What I choose to work for is none of your business. You make a lot of assumption without know what and how Americans feel... because I know them, not you. I feel that you look for an agruement and defend US political against your own people. I support people and their feeling for policital issues.

I repeat dozen of times for past years to you that I SUPPORT troops for defend our countries against attackers (terrorists), NOT go to attack other countries for unnecassary war. Soliders (veterans) say the same thing. Get it? If you can´t get it then I can´t help you.

Us looking for an argument? We don't get on the thread on a daily basis and bash Germany now do we?

I really don't care about Germany and its issues, the only thing I like about Germans are the cars.

As for the 'unnecessary war' comment, Saddam Hussein had to go, afterall, he is the "Adolf Hitler" to the Iraqis. Or have you forgotten your history about Adolf Hitler?

 

[Byrdie714]

I've noticed many civilian workers at foreign posts can be the worst haters of the U.S. Lots of them take our money and blackmarket our goods but envy and guilt cause them to bite the hand that feeds them. Very Freudian.

I never heard... It could be that you involve with wrong people... *shrug*

Good post Chase and this individual is a classic example of it.

 

[Foxrac]

Both of Byrdie and Liebling, I'm suggest you to work out via PM instead of here.

Finally, not all countries are hate USA, only some of them, especially in muslim countries.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Whoppie Doo....you know an American!

There is a difference between knowing an American and being an American!

Yes I know, so?

It make no difference either we know Americans or being an Americans because they born and raise in America. So?

 

[Foxrac]

Yes I know, so?

It make no difference either we know Americans or being an Americans because they born and raise in America. So?

Are you support USA? It's ok for European to support our country.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

How can you choose to ignore my post when you are replying to my post? As for the American co-workers chances are high that their feelings and sentiments are the same as us over here on the continent.

No, I explained you why in friendly manner way instead of argue with you because you want to know why I did not answer your question in other threads.

Reba! Your post is exactly what I been asking Liebling all this time and it still isn't getting anywhere.

You ask me all the time? Nope, you did not ask me but look for an arguement. Reba know my posts for years and do not want to see it. It´s her choice for support US policial and my choice to support troops and families.

Us looking for an argument? We don't get on the thread on a daily basis and bash Germany now do we?

Therefore yes, you accused me to bash America which is not true. We debated cons/pros about our countries, not bash and disrespect each other.

As for the 'unnecessary war' comment, Saddam Hussein had to go, afterall, he is the "Adolf Hitler" to the Iraqis. Or have you forgotten your history about Adolf Hitler?

I am surprise because I thought you know the history. Anyway there´re no comparison between Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hilter because they did total different. Saddam Hussein was cruel to his own people but he did not attack our country but Aldolf Hilter does. Adolf Hilter send his soliders to attack other countries to kill innocnent people which Saddam Hussein doesn´t. Get it?


Simple question: Why Iraq war for? We agree that it´s unnecassary war because Saddam did not attack our countries, don´t he?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Are you support USA? It's ok for European to support our country.

Yes I support Americans and their country because they are human being like us who live there. I only disagree with policitial system itself, not people and country. I support people from every countries in the world.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Both of Byrdie and Liebling, I'm suggest you to work out via PM instead of here.

No, it´s not worth. I did explained him in friendly way but he choose to not solve it with me... It´s his choice, not mine.

Finally, not all countries are hate USA, only some of them, especially in muslim countries.

Exactly, that´s what I often said in previous posts that I personally do not beleive that the world hate USA but only islaim countries (muslim).

 

[Reba]

Look yourself what you are saying here... *shake my head quietly*

What I choose to work for is none of your business.

For whatever reason that you work for the American military, the result is the same. Your work supports American military missions all over the world, and I am grateful for that. However, you must realize that it seems very hypocritical to say that you don't approve of American military fighting in Iraq but you work for that same military. It's true that you work in Germany, not Iraq, but Germany is a very important support facility to the war in Iraq. Many American soldiers and airmen pass thru the Germany bases on their ways to and from Iraq. If the bases in Germany were closed, it would create a hardship for the American forces. So, it's quite clear that your work does support the war in Iraq. I'm not complaining; I'm glad that the German bases are available to support the war.

You make a lot of assumption without know what and how Americans feel... because I know them, not you.

I'm not discussing how Americans feel. I was asking about your rationalization for working for a military whose missions you disagree with.

I feel that you look for an agruement and defend US political against your own people. I support people and their feeling for policital issues.

That's my point. If you are against the war in Iraq, why do you help Americans fight that war? The same pot of money that pays your salary also pays for the war in Iraq.

I repeat dozen of times for past years to you that I SUPPORT troops for defend our countries against attackers (terrorists), NOT go to attack other countries for unnecassary war. Soliders (veterans) say the same thing. Get it? If you can´t get it then I can´t help you.

But you do support the soldiers fighting the war in Iraq because your job helps them to do that. If you support the war in Iraq, then that's consistent with your employment, and that's OK. But if you are against American soldiers fighting in Iraq, then your employment is inconsistent with your stated beliefs. That's all.

 

[Foxrac]

Yes I support Americans and their country because they are human being like us who live there. I only disagree with policitial system itself, not people and country. I support people from every countries in the world.

Well, USA isn't alone about different political system that cause you had turned off, Many countries, such as Mexico has some ridiculous stuff in political system, such as immigrant law issue. We are in different system and you don't need to be worry or complain about us.

I'm not want damn to follow Europe's law, no thanks.

 

[Reba]

I am surprise because I thought you know the history. Anyway there´re no comparison between Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hilter because they did total different. Saddam Hussein was cruel to his own people but he did not attack our country but Aldolf Hilter does. Adolf Hilter send his soliders to attack other countries to kill innocnent people which Saddam Hussein doesn´t. Get it?

Let's briefly review history.

Hitler invaded countries.

Hussein invaded countries. (Did you forget Iran and Kuwait?)


Hitler committed genocide against ethnic groups.

Hussein committed genocide against ethnic groups. (Did you forget the Kurds?)


Hitler had his political enemies killed.

Hussein had his political enemies killed.

 

[Chase]

Liebling: I am surprise because I thought you know the history. Anyway there´re no comparison between Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hilter because they did total different. Saddam Hussein was cruel to his own people but he did not attack our country but Aldolf Hilter does. Adolf Hilter send his soliders to attack other countries to kill innocnent people which Saddam Hussein doesn´t. Get it?

I'm sure we all "get it," at least the part about who knows or does not know history. In your defense of Adolf, do you really believe he and his followers were not cruel to Germany's own people? Hundreds of thousands of Jews slaughtered were men, women, and children with full German citizenship. I visited Dachau near Munich and saw the photos, read the rolls. Many, many deaf and blind and other "defective" Germans were also put to death.

As I've pointed out several times, you have no idea what constitutes logical comparison, just as you had no clue to analogy. You just throw it all against the outhouse wall, hoping some of it will sticks and causes pain or problems.

No, the hatred and envy are easy to "get."