Why do some people continuing driving drunk?

GarnetTigerMom said:
Minimum Age for Bartending - Twenty-four (24) states in the U.S. permit adults age 18 or older to tend bar in on-premises establishments.

Minimum Age to Serve Alcohol in On-Premises Establishments - Thirty-seven (37) states that permit adults age 18 or older to serve alcoholic beverages in on-premises establishments.

Drinking Alcohol Under Age of 21 (Underage Drinking) Not Prohibited in 33 U.S. States - Thirty-three (33) states permit so-called underage persons to consume alcohol or to consume it under certain circumstances.

that is what I learn from the us law.
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Not here in Arkansas. U have to be 21 to work at the bar and sell alcohol. If one was found to be under age and selling? the bar owner can be fined for that.
 
Freaky Cat said:
Not here in Arkansas. U have to be 21 to work at the bar and sell alcohol. If one was found to be under age and selling? the bar owner can be fined for that.
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Yep same here in Virginia have to be 21 years old to work in a bar. But if a resturant job that have a bar, they allow 18 years old to work there. But I am sure they won't let 18 years old working at the bar.
 
Shrugs...no one responded to what I said on 2nd page....
 
Sequoias, I don't see anything from you on the second page.
 
Angel said:
Well, those bartenders should look at it another way, they could actually be saving the lives of many inculde children....
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How do you tell if they are drunk if they don't show they're drunk enough to stop serving them alcoholic beverages? I don't know if it's bartender's job to look after people's drinking problems or they end up going to drink and drive. They don't have time for that because they have to focus on serving thousands of people in one night. Unless they're staffed enough to serve a night of partying. Maybe, they should hire people who are responsible for checking on people's drinking problems or making sure they don't go out and drink and drive. That would work in a very busy club/bar that have so many people to check out. Smaller bars would have bartenders to check them out because there's less people.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Yep same here in Virginia have to be 21 years old to work in a bar. But if a resturant job that have a bar, they allow 18 years old to work there. But I am sure they won't let 18 years old working at the bar.
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at the bar where i used to work at .. i used to work there in the kitchen when i was 20 yrs old.. i was lucky back then... but now the law changed due to no smoking in many restaurants.. but at the bar where i used to work at allowed smoking in there.. BUT 18 yrs old cant work at kitchen .. have to be 21 to work at the bar and grill due to the law.. no one under 21 can be allowed in the restaurant due to smoking and drinking...
 
Freaky Cat said:
at the bar where i used to work at .. i used to work there in the kitchen when i was 20 yrs old.. i was lucky back then... but now the law changed due to no smoking in many restaurants.. but at the bar where i used to work at allowed smoking in there.. BUT 18 yrs old cant work at kitchen .. have to be 21 to work at the bar and grill due to the law.. no one under 21 can be allowed in the restaurant due to smoking and drinking...
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Yep, back then our times were so much different in the 80's and it was lot of fun. I think it better now for kids 18 and over have more stricter laws to keep them out of troubles then do harm on themselves and hurt other. Drinking booze is like a drug.
 
I am a close call alcholic (sp?) when i was 19 yrs old. but now i usually drink when i know i dont need to drive anymore and i drink when theres a party (very rare) so im not for drinking and driving...i always make sure that there is a designated driver going from my house and usually there is a RIDE program very close to my house.
 
Many of you discussed how the bartender is or should be responsible for making the decision to stop serving drinks to patrons who appear intoxicated. Well, that is a tough one cuz too often at Deaf Professional Happy Hours, the intoxicated people usually ask those who are sober to buy them drinks because of the knowledge that bartenders will not serve them. Even in their intoxicated state, they still are capable of finding ways to consume more alcohol.


How are the bartenders responsible in situations like these?
 
shel90 said:
Many of you discussed how the bartender is or should be responsible for making the decision to stop serving drinks to patrons who appear intoxicated. Well, that is a tough one cuz too often at Deaf Professional Happy Hours, the intoxicated people usually ask those who are sober to buy them drinks because of the knowledge that bartenders will not serve them. Even in their intoxicated state, they still are capable of finding ways to consume more alcohol.


How are the bartenders responsible in situations like these?
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I didn't think of that one, because I haven't seen it happened as far as I know. But, you got a good point. :)
 
sequoias said:
How do you tell if they are drunk if they don't show they're drunk enough to stop serving them alcoholic beverages?
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You can really tell if someone is intoxicated, I just gave a listing of how to tell when someone is intoxicated.


I don't know if it's bartender's job to look after people's drinking problems or they end up going to drink and drive. They don't have time for that because they have to focus on serving thousands of people in one night.
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When bartenders filed a license, It will explained to them the rules of serving alcoholic beverages and that they can be held liable in accidents or injuries caused by a customer who drinks too much.

That's why they are bartenders, they went to education for bartenders these programs teaches the instruction on state and local laws and regulations, also have to use their sense of right and wrong. It's comes with a huge responsibilities being a bartender.
 
Cheri said:
I've read the story about Lindsay Lohan who spend only 84 mintues in jail. How many times have she been charged with drunken driving offense? I don't understand why celebritys don't received the same punishments as other citizens? I hate to see people who are addicted to alcohol and drug get away too easy.

What if Lindsay kills someone while under the influence of alcohol? It could be your mother, your father, your sister, your brother, your children.

We need tough laws against drunk drivers. Those drunk drivers need to stop and think about the choices they make because those who drink and drive are not only putting their lives at risk, but the lives of innocent people who are sharing the same roads.

Having a driver's license is a responsibility and a privilege not a right, just take their driver's license away for gawd sake, what are they waiting for? until they kill someone?
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It`s all about money and fame. If it was one of us we we would get into big trouble, does anybody wanna bet O.J gets off also?
 
peppsiwoman said:
It`s all about money and fame.
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I am aware of that, I still find it unfair and the justice system is weak for those famous people. It doesn't make them any better than the rest of the population.
 
shel90 said:
Many of you discussed how the bartender is or should be responsible for making the decision to stop serving drinks to patrons who appear intoxicated. Well, that is a tough one cuz too often at Deaf Professional Happy Hours, the intoxicated people usually ask those who are sober to buy them drinks because of the knowledge that bartenders will not serve them. Even in their intoxicated state, they still are capable of finding ways to consume more alcohol.


How are the bartenders responsible in situations like these?
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That's a good question. I would assume that if something happened, and the victims decided to sue the bartender, the bartender would have to supoenea others that were in the bar that could testify in court that the bartender had refused to serve the intoxicated person, but friends kept buying that person more drinks. Or, I guess, if the bartender realized it was happening, he or she would be responsibile for asking that person to leave the bar along with their friends.:dunno2:
 
shel90 said:
Many of you discussed how the bartender is or should be responsible for making the decision to stop serving drinks to patrons who appear intoxicated. Well, that is a tough one cuz too often at Deaf Professional Happy Hours, the intoxicated people usually ask those who are sober to buy them drinks because of the knowledge that bartenders will not serve them. Even in their intoxicated state, they still are capable of finding ways to consume more alcohol.


How are the bartenders responsible in situations like these?
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*nodding* You also have a good point, too.
 
Cheri said:
You can really tell if someone is intoxicated, I just gave a listing of how to tell when someone is intoxicated.




When bartenders filed a license, It will explained to them the rules of serving alcoholic beverages and that they can be held liable in accidents or injuries caused by a customer who drinks too much.

That's why they are bartenders, they went to education for bartenders these programs teaches the instruction on state and local laws and regulations, also have to use their sense of right and wrong. It's comes with a huge responsibilities being a bartender.
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I had no idea that being a bartender is a huge responsibility!
 
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