Why do some people continuing driving drunk?

sequoias said:
How do you tell if they are drunk if they don't show they're drunk enough to stop serving them alcoholic beverages?
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If *I* can tell when a person is drunk then any bartenders should too, it's their job, if they can not tell if their customers had enough, then they shouldn't be in that kind of businesss because it's their responsibility to make sure they serve the limiting of their alcohol to their customers to prevent over-intoxication and even life threatening too..

There are signs that tells you when someone is drunk or had enough ---strong odor of alcohol, vomiting, passing out, aggressive behavior, screaming and yelling, trouble making eye contact, having difficulty maintaining balance and walking independently, unconsciousness, trouble breathing, starting a fight, damaging the property and etc....

And if you see a friend who repeatedly drinking to the point where they are unable to care for themselves or are acting aggressively then you know your friend is unable to drive...


I don't know if it's bartender's job to look after people's drinking problems or they end up going to drink and drive. They don't have time for that because they have to focus on serving thousands of people in one night. Unless they're staffed enough to serve a night of partying. Maybe, they should hire people who are responsible for checking on people's drinking problems or making sure they don't go out and drink and drive. That would work in a very busy club/bar that have so many people to check out. Smaller bars would have bartenders to check them out because there's less people.
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If that's a problem then they should hire a bouncer or security/police personnel for assistance....
 
shel90 said:
Many of you discussed how the bartender is or should be responsible for making the decision to stop serving drinks to patrons who appear intoxicated. Well, that is a tough one cuz too often at Deaf Professional Happy Hours, the intoxicated people usually ask those who are sober to buy them drinks because of the knowledge that bartenders will not serve them. Even in their intoxicated state, they still are capable of finding ways to consume more alcohol.


How are the bartenders responsible in situations like these?
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That's why most clubs have bouncer, staffs or security/police personnel to prevent that from happening, sometimes they would check continually to ensure that no one is serving their friends drinks who appear to be drunk or to the point where they are unable to care for themselves or are acting aggressively and if that happens then the bouncer, staffs or security/police personnel will thrown them all out...That's why it's important to encouraging their friends not to do that because this could lead to injury or even death..I could never do that to any of my friends or family because I know what would happen if I did that to someone I love....
 
sequoias said:
How do you tell if they are drunk if they don't show they're drunk enough to stop serving them alcoholic beverages? I don't know if it's bartender's job to look after people's drinking problems or they end up going to drink and drive. They don't have time for that because they have to focus on serving thousands of people in one night. Unless they're staffed enough to serve a night of partying. Maybe, they should hire people who are responsible for checking on people's drinking problems or making sure they don't go out and drink and drive. That would work in a very busy club/bar that have so many people to check out. Smaller bars would have bartenders to check them out because there's less people.
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Some of the signs to look for are:

slurred words

loss of balance, falling down

very loud or very withdrawn behaviour

inability to focus vision

loss of co-ordination (if they're fumbling for their keys, for example)
Any of these signs indicate serious intoxication. Do not even consider allowing this person to drive.

even their breath smell of booze when they had too many.
 
Cheri said:
You can really tell if someone is intoxicated, I just gave a listing of how to tell when someone is intoxicated.




When bartenders filed a license, It will explained to them the rules of serving alcoholic beverages and that they can be held liable in accidents or injuries caused by a customer who drinks too much.

That's why they are bartenders, they went to education for bartenders these programs teaches the instruction on state and local laws and regulations, also have to use their sense of right and wrong. It's comes with a huge responsibilities being a bartender.
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When Someone is Intoxicated, this is something to learn be aware of because, CONTINUALLY MONITOR THE INTOXICATED PERSON.

CHECK THEIR BREATHING, waking them often to be sure they are not unconscious.

A DRUNK PERSON should not be put in charge of another drunk person.

DO NOT exercise the person.

DO NOT allow the person to drive a car or ride a bicycle.

DO NOT give the person food, liquid, medicines or drugs to sober them up.

DO NOT give the person a cold shower; the shock of the cold could cause unconsciousness.

REMEMBER: THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SOBER A DRUNK PERSON IS TIME!!!!
 
How To Tell If Someone Has Alcohol Poisoning.

If the person is breathing less than thirteen times per minute or stops breathing for periods of eight seconds or more, CALL 9-1-1.

If the person is asleep and you are unable to wake him/her up, CALL 9-1-1.

Look at the person's skin. If it is cold, clammy, pale or bluish in color, CALL 9-1-1.

If the person is continually vomiting (repeated, uncontrolled), CALL 9-1-1.
Other Important Factors Stay with a person who is vomiting! Try to keep the person sitting up. If s/he must lie down, keep the person on his/her side with his/her head turned to the side.

Watch for choking; if the person begins to choke, GET HELP IMMEDIATELY, CALL 9-1-1.

If a person drinks alcohol in combination with any other drug, the combined effect could be fatal. CALL 9-1-1.

If the person is not in need of medical attention and is going to "sleep it off," be sure to position the person on his/her side placing a pillow behind him/her to prevent them from rolling out of this position. This is important to help prevent choking if the person should vomit. STAY WITH THE PERSON AND WAKE HIM/HER UP FREQUENTLY. Even though the person is sleeping, alcohol levels may continue to rise, causing the person to become unconscious, rather than asleep. If at any time you can not wake the person up, CALL 9-1-1.

Any person that has altered consciousness, slowed respiration, repeated, uncontrolled vomiting, or cool, pale skin is experiencing acute alcohol intoxication (alcohol poisoning). This is a medical emergency and you MUST get help. CALL 9-1-1.

This informations should help people to know what to do when you need to call for help.
 
Angel said:
That's why most clubs have bouncer, staffs or security/police personnel to prevent that from happening, sometimes they would check continually to ensure that no one is serving their friends drinks who appear to be drunk or to the point where they are unable to care for themselves or are acting aggressively and if that happens then the bouncer, staffs or security/police personnel will thrown them all out...That's why it's important to encouraging their friends not to do that because this could lead to injury or even death..I could never do that to any of my friends or family because I know what would happen if I did that to someone I love....
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At all the bars or clubs I have gone in DC, the bouncers usually stay outside or in the foyer just chatting away among themselves. Maybe it is different in Ohio but the DC bars and clubs get so impossibly packed. I would think that even if they tried, the bouncers and bartenders couldnt do the job of monitoring people buying drinks for intoxicated people. People need to take responsibility for themselves and their own actions. We all are adults and know that drinking and driving is dangerous but yet people adopt the "it will never happen to me" mentality and end up in drunk driving accidents.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
If you must drive after drinking, stay completely sober:

Don't be fooled. The contents of the typical bottle or can of beer, glass of wine, or liquor drink (mixed drink or straight liquor) each contain virtually identical amounts of pure alcohol. When it comes to alcohol, a drink is a drink is a drink and are all the same to a breathalyzer. For more, visit Standard Drinks.

Know your limit. If you are not sure, experiment at home with your spouse or some other responsible individual. Explain what you are attempting to learn. Most people find that they can consume one drink per hour without any ill effects. Also, experiment with the Blood Alcohol Educator, which is very informative and useful.

Eat food while you drink. Food, especially high protein food such as meat, cheese and peanuts, will help slow the absorption of alcohol into your body.

Sip your drink. If you gulp a drink, you lose the pleasure of savoring its flavors and aromas.

Don't participate in "chugging" contests or other drinking games.

Accept a drink only when you really want one. If someone tries to force a drink on you, ask for a non-alcohol beverage instead. If that doesn't work, "lose" your drink by setting it down somewhere and leaving it.

Skip a drink now and then. Having a non-alcoholic drink between alcoholic ones will help keep your blood alcohol content level down, as does spacing out your alcoholic drinks
A good general guideline for most people is to limit consumption of alcohol beverages to one drink (beer, wine or spirits) per hour.

Keep active; don't just sit around and drink. If you stay active you tend to drink less and to be more aware of any effects alcohol may be having on you.

Beware of unfamiliar drinks. Some drinks, such as zombies and other fruit drinks, can be deceiving as the alcohol content is not detectable. Therefore, it is difficult to space them properly.

Use alcohol carefully in connection with pharmaceuticals. Ask your physician or pharmacist about any precautions or prohibitions and follow any advice received.

make sense?
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I have never drove drunk. I just won`t ,I think the laws are not that tought.Some people who drink are not thinking.As far as People who have money and fame seem to have a mind set. "they won`t do nothing to me":dunno:
 
shel90 said:
At all the bars or clubs I have gone in DC, the bouncers usually stay outside or in the foyer just chatting away among themselves. Maybe it is different in Ohio but the DC bars and clubs get so impossibly packed. I would think that even if they tried, the bouncers and bartenders couldnt do the job of monitoring people buying drinks for intoxicated people. People need to take responsibility for themselves and their own actions. We all are adults and know that drinking and driving is dangerous but yet people adopt the "it will never happen to me" mentality and end up in drunk driving accidents.
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Don't they have ANY staffs, security/police personnel or bouncers INSIDE these clubs? :eek3: ...

When clubs get overpacked, they should have more than enough to keep the place under control, it's the same way as the clubs downtown, Cleveland..
 
Angel said:
Don't they have ANY staffs, security/police personnel or bouncers INSIDE these clubs? :eek3: ...

When clubs get overpacked, they should have more than enough to keep the place under control, it's the same way as the clubs downtown, Cleveland..
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They have staff but security..not that I know of. The DC police are always on the streets where there are several bars and clubs. DC has hundreds and hundreds of bars so the police cant be in every bar. Remember that DC is a town full of young people for internships, colleges and starting out their political careers so the bar scene there is huge.
 
shel90 said:
They have staff but security..not that I know of. The DC police are always on the streets where there are several bars and clubs. DC has hundreds and hundreds of bars so the police cant be in every bar. Remember that DC is a town full of young people for internships, colleges and starting out their political careers so the bar scene there is huge.
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Yike, Thanks for telling me, and beside I don't go in these clubs anymore if I were to go to one, I would prefer to go to a club where there are tight securities cause anything could happen when the clubs get overpacked ya know...

Interesting to hear about DC, Thanks Shel :)
 
Angel said:
Yike, Thanks for telling me, and beside I don't go in these clubs anymore if I were to go to one, I would prefer to go to a club where there are tight securities cause anything could happen when the clubs get over-packed ya know...

Interesting to hear about DC, Thanks Shel :)
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I have never had any problems with the patrons at the clubs except for a few guys grabbing my ass. Never have witnessed a fight or anything like that. Maybe it is cuz I go to the clubs or bars in NW DC. I refuse to go to the clubs or bars in SE DC where shootings are rampant. The only one time that I went to a SE DC club was when my drink got spiked with ecasity and I was literally awake for 48 hours straight acting all paranoid and everything. That happened on a Sat night and I had to miss two days of work cuz I was "high". I was so upset and sick when I learned that someone spiked my drink cuz I could have gone into cardiac arrest! Never ever leave your drink alone ever!!! That was the big lesson I learned.
 
peppsiwoman said:
I have never drove drunk. I just won`t ,I think the laws are not that tought.Some people who drink are not thinking.As far as People who have money and fame seem to have a mind set. "they won`t do nothing to me":dunno:
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I don't think it just people with fame and money, I seen poor and normal middle class people still goes to bars to get more drinks and end up driving and getting killed or someone killed. The law here in Virginia don't care how many drink you have or even like one drink and drive the car, they still fined you here and force you to take a breath test and the judge make you go to the A.A. meeting even if you are not a drinker. One drink here and if see beer in your car or wine bottle the police can arrest you and fine you. Virginia laws here is stricts.
 
I guess they don't realize it's dangerous when it comes to drinking and driving. sometimes they have none common sense to be careful oh well once it hits them it'll change their life forever... probably end up in jail or dead.
 
shel90 said:
I have never had any problems with the patrons at the clubs except for a few guys grabbing my ass. Never have witnessed a fight or anything like that. Maybe it is cuz I go to the clubs or bars in NW DC. I refuse to go to the clubs or bars in SE DC where shootings are rampant. The only one time that I went to a SE DC club was when my drink got spiked with ecasity and I was literally awake for 48 hours straight acting all paranoid and everything. That happened on a Sat night and I had to miss two days of work cuz I was "high". I was so upset and sick when I learned that someone spiked my drink cuz I could have gone into cardiac arrest! Never ever leave your drink alone ever!!! That was the big lesson I learned.
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WOW, I haven't experiences that b4, I'm glad you're okay through, that's scary..:eek3:
 
Angel said:
WOW, I haven't experiences that b4, I'm glad you're okay through, that's scary..:eek3:
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:ty: I am thankful I am ok. It took me one year to get over it emotionally.

Yea and that experience helped me understand why it is such a popular drug among college students especially girls.
 
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Surely wish that "Roaring 20's" (back in 1920's) kept the "Illegal Boozes or Alcohol" for many many years to this today and there should be no drunk drivers today! That would be very nice HUH? but Unfortunately that blackmarket of any alcohol was over powering to the cops and selling to liquior stores and etc to make those legal boozes today. Really Sad tho!!!!!!
 
WhiteWolves64 said:
Surely wish that "Roaring 20's" (back in 1920's) kept the "Illegal Boozes or Alcohol" for many many years to this today and there should be no drunk drivers today! That would be very nice HUH? but Unfortunately that blackmarket of any alcohol was over powering to the cops and selling to liquior stores and etc to make those legal boozes today. Really Sad tho!!!!!!
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Yep I agree wtih you on that. It's really sad thing to happen.
 
Yeah, someone mentioned "middle class" people being just as irresponsible as "rich"....I think is true. Something I notice just at my bowling leagues that many people, not just a few, drink so much- get completely wasted and then just drive home like it was nothing. I think it so irresponsible of them.....they have families at home....what if they killed or injured someone elses family member, geez.

I know we've heard all this a million times, but its such an epidemic of irresponsability with drinking, its just extremely unfortunate.
 
hohDougRN said:
Yeah, someone mentioned "middle class" people being just as irresponsible as "rich"....I think is true. Something I notice just at my bowling leagues that many people, not just a few, drink so much- get completely wasted and then just drive home like it was nothing. I think it so irresponsible of them.....they have families at home....what if they killed or injured someone elses family member, geez.

I know we've heard all this a million times, but its such an epidemic of irresponsability with drinking, its just extremely unfortunate.
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You got that right. It is extremely unfortuneate that some people that drinks don't think twice about the danger of getting behind the wheel driving when they had too many to drink. It truely a shame.
 
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