Why CI is bad for kids under 6 yrs.

[shel90]

Statement from John Hopkins University about menigities and children with CIs.


The Importance of Vaccinations in Cochlear Implant Users

Bacterial meningitis is a serious infection of the brain and the fluid that surrounds the brain. Bacterial meningitis is a life-threatening infection. Individuals who have a cochlear implant are at an increased risk of bacterial meningitis. To read more, click here

The Listening Center at Johns Hopkins

 

[jillio]

Statement from John Hopkins University about menigities and children with CIs.


The Importance of Vaccinations in Cochlear Implant Users

Bacterial meningitis is a serious infection of the brain and the fluid that surrounds the brain. Bacterial meningitis is a life-threatening infection. Individuals who have a cochlear implant are at an increased risk of bacterial meningitis. To read more, click here

The Listening Center at Johns Hopkins

I know, shel. People who regard the medical community as the expert on this subject seem to ignore the fact that the medical community keeps saying there is an increased risk.

 

[LadySekhmet]

Did I say crititize on Adult got cochlear implant.. ?? Nope
As for my concern about "YOUNG CHILDREN" got implanted... which parent pressure their child have cochlear implant.. "fix" solution! That key.. Parent cannot accept their Deaf Child.

That is it..
I have nothing against whoever have cochlear implanted by Teenagers or Adult.. Isn't my business.. their making choice.. BUT.. My concern about "YOUNG CHILDREN, BABY, AND TODDLERS" So then let it be you have to understand my really concern about their so young have implanted which no speak their own rights.. Parent have rights force their child have cochlear implanted. *sigh* you jumpy!

Likely Yes, Fact Tons of ex-ci who aren't happy.. I wasn't even saying how many.. Did I say exact number? Why you're bring it up ego speak LOUD OF MOUTH? So pointless.. Why can't you accept pro and con..?? Aren't you ?
you prefer seek PRO.. than con side of their speak out voices who ex ci..

Are you willing talk with ex-ci'ers ? You have to learn and accept understand their feelings..

Seems you not willing listen feedback?

Excuse me..

Yes I understand that you are against young children being implanted. That is okay, but you seem to focus more on the cons than the pros. That's what I'm trying to explain to you that there are reasons why there's cons and side effects to the CI. I know there's a few ex-CI users that have difficulties now, but ALL of them were not forced by their parents. Some were adults when they made the choice to have CI. You're making it sound like the reason why they're having problems is "because their parents' forced CI on them". It's not true.

You mentioned that I think CI is perfect. I don't. Where did you see me say, "CI IS PERFECT!" Nope. It's not. It's not for everyone. Take a search on my posts, and you'll see that I say that more than one occasion.

I don't always look at the Pro side of everything. If someone that's considering of getting a CI ask me questions, and I will ALWAYS mention the negatives. Especially the one about "If you don't train yourself to use the CI, it won't be successful and will cause problems later."

 

[vallee]

Statement from John Hopkins University about menigities and children with CIs.


The Importance of Vaccinations in Cochlear Implant Users

Bacterial meningitis is a serious infection of the brain and the fluid that surrounds the brain. Bacterial meningitis is a life-threatening infection. Individuals who have a cochlear implant are at an increased risk of bacterial meningitis. To read more, click here

The Listening Center at Johns Hopkins

the risk were explained in detail to me. I also had my vaccination as well. We know of the increased risk of meningitis. I also know a child died in Nashville this week from meningitis. She was hearing, parents took her to the emergency room and they sent her home with the "flu." She died 4 hours later at Vanderbilt.

 

[LadySekhmet]

the risk were explained in detail to me. I also had my vaccination as well. We know of the increased risk of meningitis. I also know a child died in Nashville this week from meningitis. She was hearing, parents took her to the emergency room and they sent her home with the "flu." She died 4 hours later at Vanderbilt.

That really sucks. :-( There's no one test for meningitis is there? I hope the doctor that let them go home is riddled with guilt. Sucks that there's many diseases that are similar to one another, and hard to really determine the differences. We need Dr. House.

 

[jillio]

the risk were explained in detail to me. I also had my vaccination as well. We know of the increased risk of meningitis. I also know a child died in Nashville this week from meningitis. She was hearing, parents took her to the emergency room and they sent her home with the "flu." She died 4 hours later at Vanderbilt.

Hearing children die every year from meningitis. The issue is increased risk of bacterial meningitis in implantation.

 

[TechBill]

Hearing children die every year from meningitis. The issue is increased risk of bacterial meningitis in implantation.

And how is that different than the increase risk of bacterial mengingitits just for going to college?

ACHA - Meningitis on Campus

They even recommend that College Student to be vaccination!


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[shel90]

the risk were explained in detail to me. I also had my vaccination as well. We know of the increased risk of meningitis. I also know a child died in Nashville this week from meningitis. She was hearing, parents took her to the emergency room and they sent her home with the "flu." She died 4 hours later at Vanderbilt.

The children who get implanted are more at risk than those hearing children. That is what John Hopkins stated..not my words. Also, I posted it because people were debating about it.

 

[jillio]

And how is that different than the increase risk of bacterial mengingitits just for going to college?

ACHA - Meningitis on Campus

They even recommend that College Student to be vaccination!


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Well, for starters, an Ci implanted child in a college dormitory would be at even greater risk than a hearing child in a college dormitory. The risk is cummulative depending upon risk factors.

 

[LadySekhmet]

Well, for starters, an Ci implanted child in a college dormitory would be at even greater risk than a hearing child in a college dormitory. The risk is cummulative depending upon risk factors.

True, but wouldn't it be the opposite because they have been vaccinated? So it would make sense to say that CI implanted child in a college dormitory would be at a lesser risk than a hearing child.

It has got to be tough to be a parent and consider about all the vaccinations that's required...that a whole 'nother topic.

 

[jillio]

True, but wouldn't it be the opposite because they have been vaccinated? So it would make sense to say that CI implanted child in a college dormitory would be at a lesser risk than a hearing child.

It has got to be tough to be a parent and consider about all the vaccinations that's required...that a whole 'nother topic.

If they had been vaccinated, yes. The problem arises when the vaccine is not kept up to date, or when surgeons perform surgery without insuring that the first vaccine has been given.

 

[Cheri]

I think things has been change now, more kids are getting their vaccinations before their implant surgery. I hope so.

 

[jillio]

I think things has been change now, more kids are getting their vaccinations before their implant surgery. I hope so.

I hope so, too. But unfortunately, it isn't always the case.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Who said I am anti-ci ? I am in favor for kids to make the decision rather than having their parents to force implant on them. Beside, most likely deaf child will be able to think for themselves when they acquire language at least by 5 or 6 years old. Why not wait until they are capable to decide for themselves?

Again do you understand how children develop language and that if a child is implant when he is older he will not be able to learn at the level of a child who is implant say around 1 or 2 years old.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

No it's truth.. ton ton ton deaf people who have ci.. and angry about their side effects and apporach angry at their parents.. why can't they listen their feelings expression due HELL HEADACHE or pain their head due numbness and so many many..
You have not seen CI teenagers and adult who was implanted when so young... by parent force child..

You don't know! I feel sorry for you... you have no clue!
Why don't you research more find it out about ugly truth about CI..
Good Luck!

YOU DON'T KNOW. I live with 2 teenage deaf children that have implants. They love their implants. I work in field that I am always in contact with adults that have implants. I am not sure where you are hiding and where you find your info but open your eyes and realize that there people that love their implant that they think their implants are miracles. I know that there are people that hate their implants. I feel sorry for you living in your little not seeing the world for what it is some people love their implant and some do not.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Okay.. you want your child hear... "sound"

for example..
I want my baby remove cochlear and want my baby DEAF..
How hearing people feel and think I'm ABUSE?

spill your bean?


You're forcing your child Oral?

I've been there oral for many many many years.. really fusterated for me..
Tired of Teacher kept spitting squirting my face.. not enough education learn English and reading.. The Teacher are focus children LEARN LISTEN AND TALK.. important... I'm glad, I was transfered to Deaf School.. and felt much better and happy learned it LOT education... I recognized who am I identity's.. I accept, I'm Deaf. I'm very happy..

but you want have your child implanted.. What if your child not happy their ci.. what will you do ? Ignore your child's feelings?

You have no idea who I am and what I believe in. You are making judgements without taking the time to find out.

I am not forcing my children to be oral. Yes, I did raise my orally. My children are now teenagers and I have told them that if they want they can take off their implants and hearing aids and stop using their voice and get involved in the Deaf culture. While I do not know enough sign to carry a complete conversation, I have a couple fo classes in the past. And you know my second class I took at John Tracy Clinic when I was studying to become an oral teacher of the deaf. I know enough to talk to my children deaf friends and would take more classes so that I can talk to my children.

My children have told why would they do that that they like who they are.

My daughter did go to a high school that had a TC program and she now goes to our local high school. I have asked her many times if she wants to go back, she said no mom they were not giving a good education.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

ARE YOU JOKING ME?! how many is "TON TON TON"? That's not even a number. You are looking at the NEGATIVES, not the positives. Besides, there are over 100,000 CI users...how many do you really think have problems? I would say maybe 2%...that's about 200 people. It may seem a lot, but what about the other 98%?! (I really wish I can find data on this...I'll do the research and get back to you. :roll

Think about it...think it like a computer...20 years ago, computers were chunky, heavy, PIA, SLOW (heck, my first computer was 75 mhz!! ). Now, 20 years later - fast, easy, light...SAME analogy to CI!! I can BET you that some of those people who have problems may have one of the following:

1 - Not training...if there's lack of training, there will be issues
2 - HIGH expectations. A few expect to hear on first day..that's not the case
3 - MANY of these people's EARS have never been simulated to sound, hence why it hurts! If I don't wear my hearing aid for a month, then I put it on, it will be very loud and hurt...then after a few days, it will be fine. Same thing for CI. The nerves are like, "WTF?!" at first, then gradually becomes, "More Power! More sound!!"
4 - BAD surgery, misplacement of implant (many were new at doing this type of surgery, and nowadays better pain management, better instruments, technology etc)
5 - Audiologists suck at Mapping
6 - Older implant (maybe in small amount of people?)


Is ALL of them forced by parents? NO. Parents did not have a LOT of information available back then because it was a fairly new technology. CI is NOT for everyone.

Why won't *YOU* do the research? I *know* there's some people that do have issues with their CI, and I do feel bad for them, but I don't judge them.
I know what it is like to have a CI, you don't. You're judging your opinion based on other people's. I respect your opinion that you're against CI in children and maybe adults, but it seems to me that you're looking at the negatives, not the positives. Just don't disrespect OUR decision for getting the implants or parents' implanting their child. That's what America is great for...all about freedom of choices.

Does that mean if I approach you, and I start signing to you and we become friends...after a while, I tell you I have CI, will you not be my friend just because I have CI? That's discrimination, and that's sad you won't be my friend. :-(

RIGHT ON

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Read Jillo's post...it did mention CI in there.

Plus - I know you support NAD...how many members do you think have CI? How many board members do you think have CI? How many pageant contestants do you think have CI? Plus, if you support NAD, that means you support their positions about CI.

CI is just a tool, a technology, a device. That's all there is to it.

I couldn't have said better CI are a tool, technology, a device when use with the right support could help with developing speech.

 

[shel90]

Again do you understand how children develop language and that if a child is implant when he is older he will not be able to learn at the level of a child who is implant say around 1 or 2 years old.

Another misconception...

Children without implants can acquire language regardless of what age they are. the 2 year old that I met has a language level of a 3 year old and she has no implants.

 

[jillio]

Again do you understand how children develop language and that if a child is implant when he is older he will not be able to learn at the level of a child who is implant say around 1 or 2 years old.

That is not true. Language does not have to be spoken.