Why CI is bad for kids under 6 yrs.

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shel90 said:
Another misconception...

Children without implants can acquire language regardless of what age they are. the 2 year old that I met has a language level of a 3 year old and she has no implants.
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I was talking about oral language for a child with a profound hearing loss.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
YOU DON'T KNOW. I live with 2 teenage deaf children that have implants. They love their implants. I work in field that I am always in contact with adults that have implants. I am not sure where you are hiding and where you find your info but open your eyes and realize that there people that love their implant that they think their implants are miracles. I know that there are people that hate their implants. I feel sorry for you living in your little not seeing the world for what it is some people love their implant and some do not.
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There is no need to insult Galaxy Angel. She is entitled to her opinion.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
I was talking about oral language for a child with a profound hearing loss.
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If so, then how were many of us who have profound hearing losses were able to develop good oral skills without implants? Just wondering cuz the saying is now that because of implants deaf children can develop oral language as if it never happened before. We all know that is not the case so I am wondering why.
 
shel90 said:
If so, then how were many of us who have profound hearing losses were able to develop good oral skills without implants? Just wondering cuz the saying is now that because of implants deaf children can develop oral language as if it never happened before. We all know that is not the case so I am wondering why.
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I was wondering the same thing, shel.
 
shel90 said:
If so, then how were many of us who have profound hearing losses were able to develop good oral skills without implants? Just wondering cuz the saying is now that because of implants deaf children can develop oral language as if it never happened before. We all know that is not the case so I am wondering why.
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While I understand that many profoundly deaf people develop oral skills the difference between you and my chidlren are that my children are able to talk on the phone, they are to understand conversation even if their backs are turned, they are able to hear me calling them even if they are outside or in another room. I am not saying that this is better then what you can do but it is more in this sense then what you can do.
 
I give respect to people who give me respect if you do not show me respect then I will not show you respect nor will allow myself to argue a point with someone because then what happens is that I without meaning to begin to be disrespectful to people I shouldn't.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
While I understand that many profoundly deaf people develop oral skills the difference between you and my chidlren are that my children are able to talk on the phone, they are to understand conversation even if their backs are turned, they are able to hear me calling them even if they are outside or in another room. I am not saying that this is better then what you can do but it is more in this sense then what you can do.
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Here we go again. It is neither better nor more.
 
*sighs*

No wonder we have people in the Deaf comunity who hate CIs...we r being told that people with CIs have more opportunies, speak better, can do more, and are not isolated than us. It is like the medical field and oral only approaches totally screwed us up and telling us we r f$#cked up for life because we can't hear??? Not just here on AD but out here...come on..where is the respect for deaf people and ASL??
 
shel90 said:
*sighs*

No wonder we have people in the Deaf comunity who hate CIs...we r being told that people with CIs have more opportunies, speak better, can do more, and are not isolated than us. It is like the medical field and oral only approaches totally screwed us up and telling us we r f$#cked up for life because we can't hear??? Not just here on AD but out here...come on..where is the respect for deaf people and ASL??
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And they wonder where the anger comes from? :whistle:
 
shel90 said:
*sighs*

No wonder we have people in the Deaf comunity who hate CIs...we r being told that people with CIs have more opportunies, speak better, can do more, and are not isolated than us. It is like the medical field and oral only approaches totally screwed us up and telling us we r f$#cked up for life because we can't hear??? Not just here on AD but out here...come on..where is the respect for deaf people and ASL??
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shel90- Myself, I would not choose to use the word more, but opportunities are different. The opportunites for my children are different than the ones that I had. For me, it is the world evolving.

Because people choose different paths does not mean that they do not respect each others choices.
 
shel90 said:
*sighs*

No wonder we have people in the Deaf comunity who hate CIs...we r being told that people with CIs have more opportunies, speak better, can do more, and are not isolated than us. It is like the medical field and oral only approaches totally screwed us up and telling us we r f$#cked up for life because we can't hear??? Not just here on AD but out here...come on..where is the respect for deaf people and ASL??
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Spot on.. It's sad to see how some hearing people are led into beliving that those skills are new to deaf people, while deaf people have mastered this stuff for decades without CI. Also the importance of listening with the back to the speaker is a so so skill and somewhat useless in the real world. What impresses most of deaf people I know, raised orally or not, is a piece of stunning new skool ASL poetry.
 
loml said:
shel90- Myself, I would not choose to use the word more, but opportunities are different. The opportunites for my children are different than the ones that I had. For me, it is the world evolving.

Because people choose different paths does not mean that they do not respect each others choices.
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Why this need to speak on behalf of a group of people that you do not belong to?
 
GalaxyAngel said:
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Hmm.. I just went to NAD webiste and type in their search feature - cochlear implant and I can't find anything that they support what you said.
Nor could I.

I knew it..

Unbelievable.. rick48 is lying teeth..

Where is it hard proof that NAD is support 100% for CI..

I'm laughing on the floor.. at you Rick48.
What afraid your answer..
Your throat getting big GULPING..

I understandable.. you shaking your pant!
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I was going to respond but I realize that niether I not anyone else can do a better job of exposing how bias and ridiculous you are than you do yourself.
 
loml said:
shel90- Myself, I would not choose to use the word more, but opportunities are different. The opportunites for my children are different than the ones that I had. For me, it is the world evolving.

Because people choose different paths does not mean that they do not respect each others choices.
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Well, out there the word "more" is constantly being used and many of us in the Deaf community are constantly reminded of that. Even here on AD in some posts too. The issue is not how the wording should be changed but the attitudes and views that are out there.
 
shel90 said:
Well, out there the word "more" is constantly being used and many of us in the Deaf community are constantly reminded of that. Even here on AD in some posts too. The issue is not how the wording should be changed but the attitudes and views that are out there.
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Exactly. It is the attitude that is portrayed through the words. Changing the words doesn't change the attitude. The hearing community already tried that once by getting very politically correct and changing "deaf/hoh"to "hearing impaired." The hearing community thought it was a less offensive term, but failed to realize that the old attitude still came shining through.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
they think their implants are miracles.
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How could cochlear implants be a miracle? they're only hearing devices. I have never seen a deaf person would say "My hearing aids is a miracle"

A miracle would be having hearing without the use of a device. ;) That's just my opinion.
 
Cheri said:
How could cochlear implants be a miracle? they're only hearing devices. I have never seen a deaf person would say "My hearing aids is a miracle"

A miracle would be having hearing without the use of a device. ;) That's just my opinion.
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good posting
 
Cheri said:
How could cochlear implants be a miracle? they're only hearing devices. I have never seen a deaf person would say "My hearing aids is a miracle"

A miracle would be having hearing without the use of a device. ;) That's just my opinion.
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:laugh2: My hearing aids are a miracle!! WOW! Just being silly here. :)

Good point, Cheri.
 
Cheri said:
How could cochlear implants be a miracle? they're only hearing devices. I have never seen a deaf person would say "My hearing aids is a miracle"

A miracle would be having hearing without the use of a device. ;) That's just my opinion.
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:gpost:
 
jackiesolorzano,
Pay attention.. read scroll up.. I've already made statement to LadySekhmet as my respond. Did I critiztie teenager?
Look it again..
I'm not here repeat to you..
*sigh*
Seems you shove fill up the full dirty into my mouth! I ain't here to debate w/you.
I'm trying to point of view as my concern.

CI isn't magic as same thing hearing aid.
Exactly Cheri made good point her statement. What make the difference?

and also you cannot face con vs pro ?
I'm here raise up speak out my voice and trying to make point but seems you doesn't want to hear feedback. Fine by me then.. Whatever you say.. CI is always right..

Sure~:sure: whatever you say..

Update: My older son have little hearing loss his left ear. I did ask my son, Do you willing Cochlear Implant? He respond me, Heck no, why should I have those? and doesn't want to have ci on his head making me look uglier something stick on it.. I was kinda little laughing him.. but nothing can I say more.. He's making a joke.. really serious he's getting little hearing loss..
He is proud ASL but still rusty his sign languages and understand Deaf Culture for! :)
 
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