When are we allowed to let Hearing people join our culture and all.

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^Angel^ said:
You going to hate me for saying this, but IF I had a deaf child, I would want my deaf child to hear with CI or hearing aids which ever will help my child be able to hear a bit more, not because I don't accept my child's deafness but it's more of fitting in and having much more out of this life beside relaying on things or someone to help them... and I definitely want my deaf child to speak and sign so my child will never feel left out along with friends of all kinds :)
The only thing I find offensive about your post is that assumption you made at the beginning.
 
Sweetmind said:
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I don't know enough about the CI myself.


You don't know enough about CI yet you go around judging those parents harshly for implanting their deaf children with CI?...

I don't get it....
 
gnulinuxman said:
The only thing I find offensive about your post is that assumption you made at the beginning.

I'm sorry,
 
Fragmenter, ease up she's good lady.. we should not be ganging on her and Angel.

It is those people like Gnu and SM that we have to deal with making sure they don't mislead other folks that ASL is the only way that they will succeed when in reality it is only great for communication between deaf to deaf. *shrug*

so ease up.. apologize to her.. and shake hand with her.. :D
 
Cheri said:
No thanks, I'll take a rain check. ;)

I don't get you, Fragmenter. Why do you always have to complain and moan about every little thing in life regarding being deaf. You should be grateful that you have a perfect English grammar, What more do you want?

Haha! Don't worry, it was figurative.

Shit, being deaf and "mute" with a healthy grasp on the English language is not easy to live with. It's agony. It's depressing becuase I love the language if not more than ASL.
 
Boult said:
Fragmenter, ease up she's good lady.. we should not be ganging on her and Angel.

It is those people like Gnu and SM that we have to deal with making sure they don't mislead other folks that ASL is the only way that they will succeed when in reality it is only great for communication between deaf to deaf. *shrug*

so ease up.. apologize to her.. and shake hand with her.. :D

Man, I'm very paranoid and I'd shoot down anything that I feel is threatening. My bad.

I don't know if they'll accept my apology since I have very strong opinions.

Well, I have to swallow my pride and apologize for being an asscircle.
 
^Angel^ said:
You don't know enough about CI yet you go around judging those parents harshly for implanting their deaf children with CI?...

I don't get it....

Dont tell me that I dont know nothing since I have had been talking with CIers or Ex CIers s sides who explained it to me. Also I have showed the fact of Deaf girl with CI who complained there is no BSL from the start. Thats the problem the parents doesnt listen those Deaf children s needs or want d/Deaf chlidren to be happy. Thats very wrongdoing, parent whoever did this.

No more secretive. Thanks!

Sweetmind
 
Boult said:
Fragmenter, ease up she's good lady.. we should not be ganging on her and Angel.

It is those people like Gnu and SM that we have to deal with making sure they don't mislead other folks that ASL is the only way that they will succeed when in reality it is only great for communication between deaf to deaf. *shrug*

so ease up.. apologize to her.. and shake hand with her.. :D

You are full of it.. Boult. BI BI has ASL and Signed English then learn how to speak in speech classes to understand the concept of language first.. It s not only ASL if you mind.

Deaf is deaf as always that you couldnt face the reality.. What a pity!

YOu have a serious problem all along.. Being so negative about ASL that you dont have any respect for d/Deaf and Hearing children who needs it from their beginning of life that makes easier between children and the parents.

Grow up Boult! You are bashing me and gnux so what are you talking about? YOu talk means nothing and have no respect that is easy way for you to bash with your own childish and negative cheeky attitude.

Jeez! You need a life.
 
Fragmenter said:
Man, I'm very paranoid and I'd shoot down anything that I feel is threatening. My bad.
Shooting people down with personal attacks is against the rules here. You don't want to be banned. :whistle:
 
Fragmenter said:
Haha! Don't worry, it was figurative.

Shit, being deaf and "mute" with a healthy grasp on the English language is not easy to live with. It's agony. It's depressing becuase I love the language if not more than ASL.


I agree with being deaf and "mute" is not easy to go on life with. I have no problem with deaf learning to speak, I think it's the best tool for communication. :thumb: I always thought you can speak, Are you learning how to now?

Boult, You're much a sweetheart! Thanks! :hug:

Fragmenter, I forgive you. I was harsh on you too. I'm certainly that you might thought I'm a bitch on one or two occasion. :giggle:
 
Cheri said:
I agree with being deaf and "mute" is not easy to go on life with. I have no problem with deaf learning to speak, I think it's the best tool for communication. :thumb: I always thought you can speak, Are you learning how to now?

Boult, You're much a sweetheart! Thanks! :hug:

Fragmenter, I forgive you. I was harsh on you too. I'm certainly that you might thought I'm a bitch on one or two occasion. :giggle:
I would disagree with you, Cheri. I don't think you're a bitch--I think you are 100% right.
 
gnulinuxman said:
Shooting people down with personal attacks is against the rules here. You don't want to be banned. :whistle:

:giggle: if only you really knew what's going on.
 
Cheri said:
I'm certainly that you might thought I'm a bitch on one or two occasion. :giggle:

I can't even burp, moan, grunt or scream "normally". I'm nasal and I sound gibberish when I try to speak. I am deaf and I don't understand why everybody thinks I'm oral to begin with.

Don't worry, if you're a bitch then I'm an asshole and I'm not ashamed of it. :angel:

edit: gotta crash -- I just finished my six pack of Budweiser and I gotta work in the morning. We'll VP some day and you'll see how deaf I am hahahahaha!
 
gnulinuxman said:
I would disagree with you, Cheri. I don't think you're a bitch--I think you are 100% right.

Well, Thank-you! :hug: You have one of the strongest opinion, and what's more you're only 19 years old. Man you know so much! I'm impressed. :thumb:
 
Fragmenter said:
edit: gotta crash -- I just finished my six pack of Budweiser and I gotta work in the morning. We'll VP some day and you'll see how deaf I am hahahahaha!

I don't have a VP just yet, I'm still on the waiting list. :( LOL! @ "how deaf I am"
 
Cheri, you are welcome :mrgreen:

Fragmenter, :laugh2: on your first paragraph.
 
Cheri said:
I don't have a VP just yet, I'm still on the waiting list. :( LOL! @ "how deaf I am"
no installer in your area? if so, that's bummer.

I got mine mailed to me and I self-installed it. No installer to come in.
 
Boult said:
no installer in your area? if so, that's bummer.

I wouldn't know, All I know is that I'm on the waiting list. It's taking forever, It's been two months already. Does it take that long?
 
in my case yeah it was like 2 months back in 2003 but it should be shorter today I guess where you are is not staffed with installer yet so they will have to send someone from nearby town to your place of residence to install.

I wish they sent you a email asking self-install or installer visit so you can choose self-install then you don't have to wait for installer to contact to make appt. oh well..
 
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