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[Reba]

Romney, facing criticism, turns tables on Perry - BusinessWeek

Rick Perry, this been all over the news .

Nowhere in that link, or in anything that I've heard or read from Perry, or any other Republican candidates, made negative remarks about Mormons.

 

[Reba]

I believe there is a tax on only prepared food in SC so there is no tax at the grocery store, right?

We pay a 1% sales tax on unprepared food. Prepared food is 7% or more (hospitality tax added). (I checked a recent sales receipt.)

 

[TWA]

Nowhere in that link, or in anything that I've heard or read from Perry, or any other Republican candidates, made negative remarks about Mormons.

It was one of Perry's close supporters, a pastor from Dallas who introduced him at a speaking event.

Romney is of course employing the fallacy of guilt by association, but one wonders what his true colors are regarding Mormonism.

I know many fundamentalist Christians do believe Mormons are indeed a cult and their religion is "the work of the devil."

 

[Reba]

It was one of Perry's close supporters, a pastor from Dallas who introduced him at a speaking event.

Correct. Even then, the remarks about Mormonism weren't made during that event.

Romney is of course employing the fallacy of guilt by association, but one wonders what his true colors are regarding Mormonism.

Do you mean Perry?

Of course, with any candidate, it breaks down to:

1. candidate's personal beliefs

2. how the candidate's beliefs impact his actions

3. how the voters feel about those beliefs and actions

I know many fundamentalist Christians do believe Mormons are indeed a cult and their religion is "the work of the devil."

I would ask why you think that is or what Mormons believe about non-Mormons but that would make this a religious thread.

 

[TWA]

Do you mean Perry?

Oops, right. I wonder what Perry's true colors are. But Romney is the one employing a fallacy to criticize him.

I would ask why you think that is or what Mormons believe about non-Mormons but that would make this a religious thread.

Ah, but you just did ASK. So I am going to answer.

My family has always been close with a family of born-again Christian fundamentalists. The views they express, along with their friends that attend the functions, and literature they have around their house and disseminate through email points to this.

Next, I don't know what Mormons think. I would guess it's similar to what most major religions believe: We're right; you're wrong. If you want to go to Heaven, convert today! ( And if you join now, we'll lower the rates for a a special introductory offer of only 10% of your income!)

 

[DeafCaroline]

The GOP has made many proposals... They are voting on some of them today. There are a number of smaller measures that have bi-partisan support.....Mostly FTA's. BUT.....Obama has said he will not sign a partial bill. It's all or nothing. Who is blocking again.

Which admin raided Gibson guitar hurting jobs? Which admin is trying to block Boeing from opening in SC costing jobs? Which admin is blocking the midwestern pipeline? Hint it's the same one that is making losing "bets" on Solyndra, Spectrawatt and Evergreen Solar. The same one that thought turtle bridges and condom studies would save us 2 years ago. The same one that revised the Solyndra contract so that Investors are repaid before taxpayers. The same one selling guns to drug cartels. The same one that told us unemployment would not exceed 8% if the stimulus was passed. The same one that told us The health care bill would create jobs.

The midwestern pipeline - anyone who cares about the environment would be opposed to it. The one in Alaska has chronic constant oil spills and leaks that is destroying the environment. Try doing research on pipelines sometime and you would understand why new pipelines should not be built. If you think going green is worse than destroying land, water and air, then I don't what to say.

Gibson Guitar got shut down because the unfinished wood they were buying from India was violating Indian laws. The US upheld the laws, boo hoo.

Obama didn't try to shut down the Boeing operations in South Carolina, he wanted them to not take work from from existing Boeing union workers in Puget Sound by transferring operations to SC where non-union workers would be. There would have no new jobs created if Obama allowed the transfer.

Boeing COULD have recalled most of its jobs that it exported overseas if they cared so much about giving work to Americans. They didn't.

Yes, that 8% promise, that's going to haunt Obama's administration for a long time.

That's probably why Republicans are so reluctant to give any numbers to jobs their proposals would generate. They're very vague.

As for Solyndra, FBI raided the executives' offices - presumably because Solyndra lied about the state of their finances at the time they applied for the loan. I agree, that was a bad deal overall.

 

[TWA]

The midwestern pipeline - anyone who cares about the environment would be opposed to it. The one in Alaska has chronic constant oil spills and leaks that is destroying the environment. Try doing research on pipelines sometime and you would understand why new pipelines should not be built. If you think going green is worse than destroying land, water and air, then I don't what to say.

Gibson Guitar got shut down because the unfinished wood they were buying from India was violating Indian laws. The US upheld the laws, boo hoo.

Obama didn't try to shut down the Boeing operations in South Carolina, he wanted them to not take work from from existing Boeing union workers in Puget Sound by transferring operations to SC where non-union workers would be. There would have no new jobs created if Obama allowed the transfer.

Boeing COULD have recalled most of its jobs that it exported overseas if they cared so much about giving work to Americans. They didn't.

Yes, that 8% promise, that's going to haunt Obama's administration for a long time.

That's probably why Republicans are so reluctant to give any numbers to jobs their proposals would generate. They're very vague.

As for Solyndra, FBI raided the executives' offices - presumably because Solyndra lied about the state of their finances at the time they applied for the loan. I agree, that was a bad deal overall.

It's always nice when someone chews through a conservative's BS. Quite a daunting task considering how twisted and dense it is (purposely).

Well done.

 

[saywhatkid]

The midwestern pipeline - anyone who cares about the environment would be opposed to it. The one in Alaska has chronic constant oil spills and leaks that is destroying the environment. Try doing research on pipelines sometime and you would understand why new pipelines should not be built. If you think going green is worse than destroying land, water and air, then I don't what to say.

Gibson Guitar got shut down because the unfinished wood they were buying from India was violating Indian laws. The US upheld the laws, boo hoo.

Obama didn't try to shut down the Boeing operations in South Carolina, he wanted them to not take work from from existing Boeing union workers in Puget Sound by transferring operations to SC where non-union workers would be. There would have no new jobs created if Obama allowed the transfer.

Boeing COULD have recalled most of its jobs that it exported overseas if they cared so much about giving work to Americans. They didn't.

Yes, that 8% promise, that's going to haunt Obama's administration for a long time.

That's probably why Republicans are so reluctant to give any numbers to jobs their proposals would generate. They're very vague.

As for Solyndra, FBI raided the executives' offices - presumably because Solyndra lied about the state of their finances at the time they applied for the loan. I agree, that was a bad deal overall.

It's always nice when someone chews through a conservative's BS. Quite a daunting task considering how twisted and dense it is (purposely).

Well done.

What I liked was the admission that the Liberal side had not been anywhere near perfect. After seeing "Democrats are starting the hate" crap; and rarely reading anywhere from the right that, just maybe, George W. Bush might not have been a superskilled economic leader, it shows some honesty. Let us see someone from the right mimic this.

 

[TXgolfer]

The midwestern pipeline - anyone who cares about the environment would be opposed to it. The one in Alaska has chronic constant oil spills and leaks that is destroying the environment. Try doing research on pipelines sometime and you would understand why new pipelines should not be built. If you think going green is worse than destroying land, water and air, then I don't what to say.

Ah choices...lol But see, what your saying here is that the green agenda is more important than jobs....Fine if you feel that way BUTagain. Who is blocking? Blocking jobs based on agenda is still blocking.

Gibson Guitar got shut down because the unfinished wood they were buying from India was violating Indian laws. The US upheld the laws, boo hoo.

Not true They had permission from the Indian government. They are battling over whether or not this is considered a finished product

Obama didn't try to shut down the Boeing operations in South Carolina, he wanted them to not take work from from existing Boeing union workers in Puget Sound by transferring operations to SC where non-union workers would be. There would have no new jobs created if Obama allowed the transfer.

Boeing COULD have recalled most of its jobs that it exported overseas if they cared so much about giving work to Americans. They didn't.

Nope it was a new plant that would have created jobs. And he is using the NLRB to prevent this from happening or at least from happening again. And again this is killing jobs based on agenda. We live in a free country and Obama wants to tell businesses where they are free to operate. That is pretty sad.

Yes, that 8% promise, that's going to haunt Obama's administration for a long time.

Yup

That's probably why Republicans are so reluctant to give any numbers to jobs their proposals would generate. They're very vague.

I have seen plenty of nubers flying around. Just today they say the FTAs will create 250,000 jobs. Not near enough but it's something....

As for Solyndra, FBI raided the executives' offices - presumably because Solyndra lied about the state of their finances at the time they applied for the loan. I agree, that was a bad deal overall.

The FBI raided the Solyndra offices to cover Chu's butt. And Obama's. This is just the tip of the iceberg on these deals too.

 

[rolling7]

It was one of Perry's close supporters, a pastor from Dallas who introduced him at a speaking event.

Romney is of course employing the fallacy of guilt by association, but one wonders what his true colors are regarding Mormonism.

I know many fundamentalist Christians do believe Mormons are indeed a cult and their religion is "the work of the devil."

Oh, how soon do we forget Rev. Wright and his teaching and preaching of hate for whites.

 

[TXgolfer]

Boeing, the world’s largest aerospace manufacturer, made a bold move Friday, defying the National Labor Relations Board, when it opened a new $750 million assembly plant in South Carolina.

The NLRB is fighting Boeing’s decision to open the second plant for 787 Dreamliner construction in North Charleston, S.C., instead of in Washington state, where the other final assembly plant is located.

The agency argues Boeing is retaliating against workers in Washington state to punish them for past strikes by building the plant in a right-to-work state, where unions are not as prominent.

But Boeing says it will keep the original Washington state plant open and continue to send the majority of its 787 Dreamliner business there. In fact, the company has added more than 2,000 jobs there since the 2009 decision to open a second production plant elsewhere.“While there’s been a lot in the news recently about government attempts to force Boeing to place the second final assembly line in Puget Sound (Wash.) and close the South Carolina final assembly and delivery facility, we are confident that Boeing will prevail against the National Labor Relations Board complaint,” Boeing spokesperson Sean McCormack said in a statement. “But today for us is not about that dispute, but instead we want to celebrate the opening of the South Carolina final assembly facility.”

Boeing opens $750 million plant in South Carolina - Washington Times

 

[Steinhauer]

What I liked was the admission that the Liberal side had not been anywhere near perfect. After seeing "Democrats are starting the hate" crap; and rarely reading anywhere from the right that, just maybe, George W. Bush might not have been a superskilled economic leader, it shows some honesty. Let us see someone from the right mimic this.

Let's see more admissions from the Left. The Right has been screaming about all these flaws for years and they have been called nutjobs and racists.

 

[Reba]

Boeing fires back over suit with letter
Company: Labor group made inaccurate statements
Published on 05/05/11
BY JOHN P. McDERMOTT
jmcdermott@postandcourier.com

Instead of filing a routine legal brief, Boeing Co. has fired off a scathing letter to the government lawyer who is suing to move its 787 line from North Charleston to Washington state over alleged labor law violations.

J. Michael Luttig, general counsel for the aerospace giant, called for National Labor Relations Board acting general counsel Lafe E. Solomon to withdraw his complaint.

In a six-page letter released by Boeing on Tuesday, Luttig lashed out at Solomon, saying parts of the April 20 lawsuit and some public statements Solomon made about the company are inaccurate or have been taken out of context.

"You have a responsibility to correct these misquotations and mischaracterizations for the public record and also for purposes of the complaint you have filed," he wrote.

Luttig, a former federal judge who was named as a possible U.S. Supreme Court nominee in 2005, went on to say Solomon has "done a grave disservice to The Boeing Company, its executives and shareholders, and to the 160,000 Boeing employees worldwide."

The NLRB lawsuit stemmed from a complaint filed in March 2010 by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, which has engaged in five strikes against Boeing between 1977 and 2008.

Solomon's agency said its investigation found that the company was trying to punish the union when it chose in 2009 to "transfer" some of its 787 production from the Seattle area to a nonunion site at Charleston International Airport.

Luttig denied that was the case, saying Boeing built the new $750 million plant from scratch and did not shift any existing manufacturing work or jobs away from the Pacific Northwest. He said Boeing considered multiple business factors in deciding where to set up the new line, including the risk and potential costs of future labor strikes.

Luttig also said that Solomon repeatedly told Boeing officials that he would not take any action in the matter if the company agreed not to lay off any 787 workers in the Seattle area. The labor agency has "abandoned the agreement," the Boeing lawyer wrote.

NLRB spokeswoman Nancy Cleeland said the lawsuit is "an early step" in the process.

She added that a hearing scheduled for June 14 in Seattle in front of a judge employed by the federal labor agency is the most appropriate venue to address the merits of the case.

"The complaint indicates that an investigation of charges brought by the Machinists' union found sufficient evidence to present the allegations to an administrative law judge," Cleeland said in a statement Wednesday.

Boeing plans to build seven Dreamliners a month at its main manufacturing hub in Everett, Wash.

The North Charleston line, which is set to open this summer, is designed to produce three 787s a month by late 2013.

Boeing has said it has hired at least 1,000 workers to help ramp up local production of the 787, with a promise to the state to add 2,800 more workers over the next few years.

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Boeing fires back over suit with letter

 

[TXgolfer]

What I liked was the admission that the Liberal side had not been anywhere near perfect. After seeing "Democrats are starting the hate" crap; and rarely reading anywhere from the right that, just maybe, George W. Bush might not have been a superskilled economic leader, it shows some honesty. Let us see someone from the right mimic this.

You know that I have at least

 

[Reba]

Boeing opens $750 million plant in South Carolina - Washington Times

Boeing has been very good for Charleston. I have friends that have been hired there. The local technical college has a whole section of the campus dedicated to training the new employees. Hiring at Boeing is on going. As of today, there were still at least 21 classified employment ads for Boeing in the paper.

 

[Tousi]

Boeing has been very good for Charleston. I have friends that have been hired there. The local technical college has a whole section of the campus dedicated to training the new employees. Hiring at Boeing is on going. As of today, there were still at least 21 classified employment ads for Boeing in the paper.

And none of these jobs interest yourself or hubby?

 

[TXgolfer]

Luttig also said that Solomon repeatedly told Boeing officials that he would not take any action in the matter if the company agreed not to lay off any 787 workers in the Seattle area. The labor agency has "abandoned the agreement," the Boeing lawyer wrote.

The new rules.....Never trust an Obama admin lawyer

 

[TXgolfer]

Boeing has been very good for Charleston. I have friends that have been hired there. The local technical college has a whole section of the campus dedicated to training the new employees. Hiring at Boeing is on going. As of today, there were still at least 21 classified employment ads for Boeing in the paper.

That is great. I expect it to be their most successful plant in the future.

 

[Reba]

That is great. I expect it to bre their most successful plant in the future.

It's also a very green plant:

North Carolina firm to install solar panels at Boeing | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

 

[Reba]

And none of these jobs interest yourself or hubby?

Not yet. Hubby likes being his own boss, and I'm under contract at the college for one more year. We'll see what happens after that.