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I have a different outlook on the grumpy issue because I have had that prophetic vision of the future in about ten years.

It will be the people in their early thirties and younger now who will be helping ease the Baby Boomer generation out of their misery at that time.

As we as a country begin the march towards this place no one now believes in, the tiny first steps are hardly noticeable. Here it begins as generalization of the older people as grouchy. Whether it is true or not it is out there working away in the public mind.

Into the wayback machine we go and there oh kind of embarrassing but true. There was a statement floating around back there in the Sixties..
"Don't trust anybody over thirty". Now here we are on the other end and the statement will be, "Don't trust anybody under thirty".
 
So if im grumpy right now that im 20 i wonder how it will be when in like 70 or 80...
 
goodonya said:
I have a different outlook on the grumpy issue because I have had that prophetic vision of the future in about ten years.

It will be the people in their early thirties and younger now who will be helping ease the Baby Boomer generation out of their misery at that time.

As we as a country begin the march towards this place no one now believes in, the tiny first steps are hardly noticeable. Here it begins as generalization of the older people as grouchy. Whether it is true or not it is out there working away in the public mind.

Into the wayback machine we go and there oh kind of embarrassing but true. There was a statement floating around back there in the Sixties..
"Don't trust anybody over thirty". Now here we are on the other end and the statement will be, "Don't trust anybody under thirty".
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I lived through this and by most of us it was used as a joke.
 
I am sort of half joking on this subject. Being a mild pain. The truth is I did get that vision and I hope I am wrong.
Ageism can be very insidious in how it comes about. There was a reason we used to have language in our union contracts to protect the older workers. It got my attention in a big way when young union business agents all over the country negotiated new contracts without that language. It used to say something like, "and we are opposed to discrimination against people for their, age, race, color, sex, and religion."

The word age was removed. There were other provisions as well to keep older construction workers on the job until they could retire.

I have been paying attention ever since. The "isms" come about because of flaws in human nature. There is only one way to keep these things at bay, vigilance and enforcement. Without that it is in the words of Yogi, "Deja vu all over again".
 
goodonya said:
I am sort of half joking on this subject. Being a mild pain. The truth is I did get that vision and I hope I am wrong.
Ageism can be very insidious in how it comes about. There was a reason we used to have language in our union contracts to protect the older workers. It got my attention in a big way when young union business agents all over the country negotiated new contracts without that language. It used to say something like, "and we are opposed to discrimination against people for their, age, race, color, sex, and religion."

The word age was removed. There were other provisions as well to keep older construction workers on the job until they could retire.

I have been paying attention ever since. The "isms" come about because of flaws in human nature. There is only one way to keep these things at bay, vigilance and enforcement. Without that it is in the words of Yogi, "Deja vu all over again".
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I concur "isms" have come about because of inherent flaws in human beings. However, the appearance of "isms" has brought to consciousness many things about society that should be challenged, addressed, corrected, highlighted, and embraced. After all, our flaws as a human being must be fully dissected and understood in order to make provisions to prevent discrimination, undue and gross human violations, and cultural impasses.
 
Dreamer03 said:
So if im grumpy right now that im 20 i wonder how it will be when in like 70 or 80...
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It is only you that can dictate how you will handle life from this point on, either with happiness or regrets. If people don't want to end up a grumpy 70 year old then they have to get into the habit of having forethought so they can prevent themselves from creating regrets.
 
Dreamer03 said:
So if im grumpy right now that im 20 i wonder how it will be when in like 70 or 80...
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Do your best not to get used to it, like a habit, once your mind is "wired" for it, it is difficult to undo. Immerse youtself in something to be happy about. :)
 
I was more joking but got to admit i have been grumpy or sad might be the right term for a while now but im working on it. But if i turn i to a geumpy elderly person i shall bither everyone with my grumpyness
 
Dreamer03 said:
So if im grumpy right now that im 20 i wonder how it will be when in like 70 or 80...
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Well, it's never a good thing to be grumpy. Better to be positive than grumpy. Me? I just woke up, and boy, I just found out that my house is down one person.
 
Frisky Feline said:
What? Not what I met lot of elders people who are so cranky. Most of them are cheery or happy out there except those people who have health issues or mind issues. That is another story.

How do you define for age that you thnk elder people are? Age over 50 or 60 or 70>

My both parents are over 70's and are not cranky. They are very happy, slow and mellow. They enjoy their life except health issues.

I really wish that you guys dont think how elder people are because you guys will be becoming like them and other kids call you like that cranky thingy. :SMH:
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Well. I have two grandmas separates. One of grandma always talkative too much and so mean to my mom often until my grandma passed away at age 87 years old in decade ago. And then my elder aunt is 77 years old. She is always speaking too much and kept calling my mom about her negative about god. :blah: She can be mean sometime. Then my moms widowed husband died at 69 years old in 6 years ago. My stepdad and I weren't get along. He always complaining and grumpy. It's made me so nervous. I've seen the elders from nursing home with agen 70's tp 80's do have a mental illness, getting old and depression.

I have a family in law. They are in 60's now. They are so nice, happy, healthy because they are getting care of their diet and healthy and exercise. They are enjoying the travel. My mom is 65 years old. She is not really grumpy. She is always being so friendly and have a good personality.
 
PinkBlackZebra00 said:
Well. I have two grandmas separates. One of grandma always talkative too much and so mean to my mom often until my grandma passed away at age 87 years old in decade ago. And then my elder aunt is 77 years old. She is always speaking too much and kept calling my mom about her negative about god. :blah: She can be mean sometime. Then my moms widowed husband died at 69 years old in 6 years ago. My stepdad and I weren't get along. He always complaining and grumpy. It's made me so nervous. I've seen the elders from nursing home with agen 70's tp 80's do have a mental illness, getting old and depression.

I have a family in law. They are in 60's now. They are so nice, happy, healthy because they are getting care of their diet and healthy and exercise. They are enjoying the travel. My mom is 65 years old. She is not really grumpy. She is always being so friendly and have a good personality.
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Just a note ... I know what you mean saying elder as in elderly but some use "elder" as in a travelling missionary like the Mormons do and most of the time they are really young like in their 20's.
 
I just learned that my Asus tablet has a screenshot tool, which I didn't know about until I discovered how to do it. Awesome!!
 
Hubby just took Marley for her walk and they came face to face with three deer. The deer were just walking down our street. No clue where the were going.
 
respectyoda said:
Just because your parents are over 70 and are not cranky, it doesn't justify you claiming that you don't think elderly people are not grumpy. Just the two of your parents do not speak for the entire population of the elderly. This is why I didn't use absolute quantifiers and instead used "some" or "many".



Either that or they gossip too much. Hahaha.
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I am insulted by your comments thinking that Elders (that is my Native tradition for Elder, not Elderly or Senior) are grumpy. I might be grumpy but I don't think that is the reason. I just don't like anyone looking down on me when I age, thinking that I am not able to work or not able to take care of myself. I am 68 years old and will be 69 this Fall. I like to be independent and do the best I can to take care of myself. I am not perfect. I am pretty okay with what I live as a Elder.

As the matter of fact, you are more grumpier than any person who don't believe in anything we said or thought. Don't ever insult an Elder like that. You are going to be attack right up to your nose, if you are not careful. We are all different people with different personalities. No one is not going to be the same like you. So butt off, Buddy! :mad:
 
Dreamer03 said:
I was more joking but got to admit i have been grumpy or sad might be the right term for a while now but im working on it. But if i turn i to a geumpy elderly person i shall bither everyone with my grumpyness
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Sometimes others have no clue what a person just might be going through. They think people are grumpy when they might just be going through a really hard time in their life. No one is expected to be all smiles and happy every single minute.
 
Angel1989 said:
Sometimes others have no clue what a person just might be going through. They think people are grumpy when they might just be going through a really hard time in their life. No one is expected to be all smiles and happy every single minute.
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Idk how you do it but you always know what is the right thing to say. *hug* thank you
 
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