Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

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jillio said:
Couldn't agree more. But it was probably less than 30 years, as this particular text referenced the Vietnam War. It was the one I referred to as stating that the U.S. won the Vietnam War. Still...outdated and inacurrate. Can't find a justifiable excuse for either, really.
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The US lost the Vietnam war sure but the US troops won in every engages in every battles against NVA or Viet Congs. The US military would win the war in Vietnam without has to interrupt by LBJ or other politicians tells the US military where to bomb and not to bomb. And it wasn't in the social studies book in my time in public school. :hmm:
 
TXgolfer said:
1) Specifically???
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Proof you have not read the actual curriculum because this is not true.

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Ah, so you don't consider Calvin or Luther historical figures.......interesting.
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Other changes seem aimed at tamping down criticism of the right. Conservatives passed one amendment, for instance, requiring that the history of McCarthyism include “how the later release of the Venona papers confirmed suspicions of communist infiltration in U.S. government.” The Venona papers were transcripts of some 3,000 communications between the Soviet Union and its agents in the United States.
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Texas Conservatives Win Vote on Textbook Standards - NYTimes.com

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They also rejected language to modernize the classification of historic periods to B.C.E. and C.E. from the traditional B.C. and A.D., and agreed to replace Thomas Jefferson as an example of an influential political philosopher in a world history class. They also required students to evaluate efforts by global organizations such as the United Nations to undermine U.S. sovereignty.
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Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum - USATODAY.com

I means undermine instead of imperil that I found in other article yesterday.

3) Check my post and souggy's post above.
 
Texan Guy said:
The US lost the Vietnam war sure but the US troops won in every engages in every battles against NVA or Viet Congs. The US military would win the war in Vietnam without has to interrupt by LBJ or other politicians tells the US military where to bomb and not to bomb. And it wasn't in the social studies book in my time in public school. :hmm:
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Um...

You don't know much about how guerilla warfare are won right?

The Soviets won every battle in Afghanistan... and still lost.

The Spaniards waged war with the Inca resistance fighters for well over two or three centuries before the resistance faded away.
 
TXgolfer said:
Are you saying it hasn't been passed???

Read the details. Several links have been provided.

Nope. TJ will be taught in both K-8 and high school. TJ is still in the schools. TJ will still be mentioned in world history..... just not a focal point.
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Ahhh, yes. A passing mention. Kind of like a concillitory prize, huh? He has been removed as a topic of study in world history.
 
Texan Guy said:
The US lost the Vietnam war sure but the US troops won in every engages in every battles against NVA or Viet Congs. The US military would win the war in Vietnam without has to interrupt by LBJ or other politicians tells the US military where to bomb and not to bomb. And it wasn't in the social studies book in my time in public school. :hmm:
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The U.S. did not win the Vietnam War. Period.
 
Foxrac said:
- the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s
- McCarthyism
- Jefferson Thomas is no longer to be listed
- label UN as imperil to our sovereignty
- include religious influence, including religious leaders

The history is supposed to be center and neutral, neither is involve with political parties.
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I'd recommend getting your information from the actual documents, not the media. The media has really screwed this one up. The relevant documents are at the bottom of this page from the Texas Education Agency website. Proposed State Board of Education Rules

You can also look at the parts of the documents I posted here.
http://www.alldeaf.com/war-politica...-social-studies-curriculum-6.html#post1586088
 
I seeee. So you equate

Teaching kids to think by giving them all the information......

“how the later release of the Venona papers confirmed suspicions of communist infiltration in U.S. government.” The Venona papers were transcripts of some 3,000 communications between the Soviet Union and its agents in the United States
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and asking them to think for themselves......

They also required students to evaluate efforts by global organizations such as the United Nations to undermine U.S. sovereignty.
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With an indoctrination statement like....

label UN as imperil to our sovereignty
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TXgolfer said:
I seeee. So you equate

Teaching kids to think by giving them all the information......

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and asking them to think for themselves......



With an indoctrination statement like....
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Texas is still subject to NCLB, which means they are still subject to teaching to the test in order to receive funding. As long as this continues, children are not asked to think. They are asked to parrot.
 
jillio said:
Ahhh, yes. A passing mention. Kind of like a concillitory prize, huh? He has been removed as a topic of study in world history.
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Are you saying TX has not passed the curriculum changes???
 
souggy said:
Um...

You don't know much about how guerilla warfare are won right?

The Soviets won every battle in Afghanistan... and still lost.

The Spaniards waged war with the Inca resistance fighters for well over two or three centuries before the resistance faded away.
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Yes, but the US troops won the battles against the Viet Congs, the guerilla group supported by the Soviet and North Vietnam in weapons and trainings.

The US military, in my opinion, would have won the war if it wasn't for the politicians since we had air controlled all over Hanoi and Vietnam, we could bomb everything into the rubbles and invade Laos for support the Viet Congs and NVA evidently.

And, in payback for Vietnam War, we supplied the weapons to Mujahideens against the Soviets to the end of war.
 
jillio said:
Texas is still subject to NCLB, which means they are still subject to teaching to the test in order to receive funding. As long as this continues, children are not asked to think. They are asked to parrot.
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Ah.....so curriculum doesn't matter anyway then. :cool2:
 
Yeah... the Soviets tried the de-population theory you recommended. They were absolutely merciless.

1/3 of Afghan population was wiped out. They still... lost.
 
souggy said:
Yeah... the Soviets tried the de-population theory you recommended. They were absolutely merciless.

1/3 of Afghan population was wiped out. They still... lost.
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Should have used nukes! Whimps
 
TXgolfer said:
Ah.....so curriculum doesn't matter anyway then. :cool2:
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Without curricululum standards, there is nothing to teach and nothing to test.:roll:

You are heavily involved in education, are you?
 
jillio said:
The ones from the OP? As I said, the details are in the links. I read 'em, you read 'em.
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I am asking if you are saying that these changes have not passed. I am not asking what the links say.

Are you saying the curriculum changes in TX have not passed? Simple question.
 
Foxrac said:
- the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s
- McCarthyism
- Jefferson Thomas is no longer to be listed
- label UN as imperil to our sovereignty
- include religious influence, including religious leaders

The history is supposed to be center and neutral, neither is involve with political parties.
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And I disagree with this for much the same reasons as you. I don't see how you can leave JT out of US History as he has a heavy impact on our history.
 
Ah, the well used template in the attempt of making you do all the work, Txgolfer.
 
jillio said:
Without curricululum standards, there is nothing to teach and nothing to test.:roll:
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Oh so then it is just a curriculum that gives kids the option to think that is bad???
 
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