Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

[jillio]

How about doing away with NCLB? That law is making us teach to test.

Exactly. That is why students are loosing the ability to think critically, or never having that ability enhanced. NCLB requires teaching to the test. In order to get funding, schools are forced to produce students that simply parrot back the answers they are given. No where does it ask a student to apply that knowledge. Another reason college freshman are so unprepared when they enter college. They walk into a college classroom, and a prof asks them to write a paper applying the knowledge they are getting from lecture and a text book, and they have virtually no idea how to do it. Reading comprehension is at an all time low as a result, as well. (We've seen a really good example in this thread alone!)

 

[TXgolfer]

I hope that teachers will be stubborn and still to teach about anything instead of new TX standard education.

Obviously you either haven't read the actual curriculum or you do not understand it.

 

[jillio]

Of course it is BS. I can't believe anyone would take that article seriously. Just like they were screaming about taking Thomas Jefferson out of TX schools a few months ago.:roll: They removed him from World History.....that's it.

So...they did take him out.

 

[jillio]

Obviously you either haven't read the actual curriculum or you do not understand it.

The actual curriculum, or the proposed changes to the actual curriculum?

 

[Foxrac]

Obviously you either haven't read the actual curriculum or you do not understand it.

You don't either. :roll:

Look at me, I already FUCKING read and understand about curriculum change in Texas so knock your word off about don't understand, don't understand, don't read, whatever.

I don't FUCKING agree with curriculum change in Texas.

 

[jillio]

You don't either. :roll:

Look at me, I already FUCKING read and understand about curriculum change in Texas so knock your word off about don't understand, don't understand, don't read, whatever.

I don't FUCKING agree with curriculum change in Texas.

And no one concerned with the education of this nation's children agrees with it either.

 

[TXgolfer]

So...they did take him out.

From standard 8th grade World History (Still available in AP). They say there was too much info to cover. TJ is still taught in elementary, middle and 9th grade American history as well as high school history electives that are more in depth.

 

[Foxrac]

And no one concerned with the education of this nation's children agrees with it either.

Yup, I got fed up with some members whoever labeled me as don't read or don't understand since I have goddamn different opinion so nobody would agree about everything.

 

[TXgolfer]

You don't either. :roll:

Look at me, I already FUCKING read and understand about curriculum change in Texas so knock your word off about don't understand, don't understand, don't read, whatever.

I don't FUCKING agree with curriculum change in Texas.

Care to explain what you specifically disagree with???

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Yup, I got fed up with some members whoever labeled me as don't read or don't understand since I have goddamn different opinion so nobody would agree about everything.

That's because when you get agitated, you become extremely aggressive and don't really explain why you don't agree. All you do is state you disagree.

It's great that you can state whither or not you agree, great for multiple test exams; however if you want people to see your point of view, you need to be able to draw a few pointers.

 

[Foxrac]

Care to explain what you specifically disagree with???

- the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s
- McCarthyism
- Jefferson Thomas is no longer to be listed
- label UN as imperil to our sovereignty
- include religious influence, including religious leaders

The history is supposed to be center and neutral, neither is involve with political parties.

 

[jillio]

From standard 8th grade World History (Still available in AP). They say there was too much info to cover. TJ is still taught in elementary, middle and 9th grade American history as well as high school history electives that are more in depth.

I repeat...he was removed.

 

[Foxrac]

I repeat...he was removed.

Yup, it was on article.

I read 4 different article about curriculum changes in Texas.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

- the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s
- McCarthyism
- Jefferson Thomas is no longer to be listed
- label UN as imperil to our sovereignty
- include religious influence, including religious leaders

The history is supposed to be center and neutral, neither is involve with political parties.

I can understand where you're coming from... but the last sentence:

It's impossible to look at history from a neutral standpoint. For it to be "neutral," you need historians that refute each others' perceptions. The scholar studying have to take EVERYONE'S perceptions and take them into consideration while trying to remove the self-bias far as possible. And unfortunately, for that to occur, the scholar has to be extremely specialized in one topic of small snippet within a massive timeline.

The only way you can be be unbiased is... present nothing more than the historical documents itself.

The problem with that is that... some historical documents were destroyed by people who want to suppress the truth. That's why historians reach out to second-hand accounts (ie. newspapers, diary entries, letters)-- in case if those historical documents were suppressed.

 

[Foxrac]

I can understand where you're coming from... but the last sentence:

It's impossible to look at history from a neutral standpoint. For it to be "neutral," you need historians that refute each others' perceptions. The scholar studying have to take others' perceptions and take them into consideration while trying to remove the self-bias far as possible.

The only way you can be be unbiased is... present nothing more than the historical documents itself.

The problem with that is that... some historical documents were destroyed by people who want to suppress the truth.

I'm okay to have important religion in history as long time ago but I don't agree about label US as Christian land and governed by Christian principles.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Well, to be fair, most of the laws created during the early-days of America were based on Jeudo-Christian values of the public.

The Constitution was influenced by the French/Swiss/German philosophers though.

 

[TXgolfer]

McCarthyism

Specifically???
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Jefferson Thomas is no longer to be listed
- label UN as imperil to our sovereignty

Proof you have not read the actual curriculum because this is not true.

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include religious influence, including religious leaders

Ah, so you don't consider Calvin or Luther historical figures.......interesting.

 

[kokonut]

Digging a hole?

 

[jillio]

Digging a hole?

The hole was dug hours ago. Someone just forgot to cover themselves up.

 

[TXgolfer]

The actual curriculum, or the proposed changes to the actual curriculum?

Are you saying it hasn't been passed???

I repeat...he was removed.

Nope. TJ will be taught in both K-8 and high school. TJ is still in the schools. TJ will still be mentioned in world history..... just not a focal point.