Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

[jillio]

Ok thats the second word you have made me look up in the dictionary. Chatting with you is going to make me smarter

LOL! We will work on that some more tomorrow. Basically, you get a gold star for answering the question correctly. It is most definitely so much crap!

 

[AndyE9503]

In general, I believe there is too much dependence on text books only for teaching a class.

Even if text books are out of date, teachers should be up to date enough with current affairs to fill in the gaps. That's what my teachers did.

The text book should be the skeleton of the course. It's up to the teacher to put flesh on the bones.

There is too much teaching to the test these days.

There are also too many teachers who seem to be only one chapter ahead of the students.

I've seen teachers mispronounce words from spelling/vocabulary lists, not be able to answer history questions from the students, and give wrong answers to science questions. They spend more time on the techniques of teaching, and administration of the class than anything else.

The kids don't seem to read much of the text books other than search for the answers to the chapter questions, so the impact of the Texas decisions probably won't be that great.

This is why I think teachers should be required to spend the summer in school.

 

[Reba]

Couldn't agree more. But it was probably less than 30 years, as this particular text referenced the Vietnam War. It was the one I referred to as stating that the U.S. won the Vietnam War. Still...outdated and inacurrate. Can't find a justifiable excuse for either, really.

I hope the teacher corrected that misinformation about the Vietnam war.

 

[jillio]

In general, I believe there is too much dependence on text books only for teaching a class.

Even if text books are out of date, teachers should be up to date enough with current affairs to fill in the gaps. That's what my teachers did.

The text book should be the skeleton of the course. It's up to the teacher to put flesh on the bones.

There is too much teaching to the test these days.

There are also too many teachers who seem to be only one chapter ahead of the students.

I've seen teachers mispronounce words from spelling/vocabulary lists, not be able to answer history questions from the students, and give wrong answers to science questions. They spend more time on the techniques of teaching, and administration of the class than anything else.

The kids don't seem to read much of the text books other than search for the answers to the chapter questions, so the impact of the Texas decisions probably won't be that great.

Well, if it is written into the standards, then it will also effect what a student can be taught unrelated to the text being used. Teachers will be obligated to teach to the standards no matter the text.

True that students don't use their texts for much more than looking up answers. That is a sad state of affairs, but one in which is to be expected when teaching to the test is the demand of the day.

 

[jillio]

I hope the teacher corrected that misinformation about the Vietnam war.

I am unsure as to whether the teacher corrected it, but am absolutely certain that her father did.

 

[Reba]

This is why I think teachers should be required to spend the summer in school.

Yes, they should, at least part of the summer, in their field of specialty. However, it seems that even summer workshops for teachers are more about new ways to use the white board or how to boost student self esteem.

 

[AndyE9503]

LOL! We will work on that some more tomorrow. Basically, you get a gold star for answering the question correctly. It is most definitely so much crap!

Gold star

 

[Steinhauer]

So are you saying that conservatives don't lie too?

It has been a rule of thumb for me .... all politicians lie. Some lie more than others, but they ALL lie (especially liberals).

Regardless of party affiliation, politicians will lie. They will do underhanded dirty business to get votes (i.e. granting amnesty to illegals) and they will distort facts to either favor themselves or others.

Even Honest Abe.

This needs to be taught to children at a very early age.

They need to be taught (at a reasonably mature age) that racism is ugly. It is vile and wicked and there is no such thing as a superior race. They need to be taught that Africans were brought against their will to the US and exploited. They need to be taught that racism still exists today and that Abe Lincoln was a man of his time.

 

[jillio]

Yes, they should, at least part of the summer, in their field of specialty. However, it seems that even summer workshops for teachers are more about new ways to use the white board or how to boost student self esteem.

Unfortunately, that is true of many in-service sessions as well.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Okay, folks. I have reached my threshold for tolerance of nonsense and moronic rambling. Hey, souggy...promise me you'll at least put off that lobotomy until tomorrow! Your sanity is much needed.

But what future do we have when everyone who want a family will have to live in 300sq apartments if they want to keep their jobs?

You see... normal people don't think about that until they have a kid and are forced to look for a place.

My head hurts.

A lobotomy is much needed.

 

[jillio]

But what future do we have when everyone who want a family will have to live in 300sq apartments?

You see... normal people don't think about that until they have a kid and are forced to looking for a place.

My head hurts.

Oh, dear souggy. Don't you realize that the growing of hydroponic vegetables has a direct impact on the number of square feet in any apartment? So, you see, the future is better predicted by the condition of the roads in March.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

Oh, dear souggy. Don't you realize that the growing of hydroponic vegetables has a direct impact on the number of square feet in any apartment? So, you see, the future is better predicted by the condition of the roads in March.

You got a point.

 

[AndyE9503]

It has been a rule of thumb for me .... all politicians lie. Some lie more than others, but they ALL lie (especially liberals).

Regardless of party affiliation, politicians will lie. They will do underhanded dirty business to get votes (i.e. granting amnesty to illegals) and they will distort facts to either favor themselves or others.

Even Honest Abe.

This needs to be taught to children at a very early age.

I completely agree with with these 3 things, although I wish I didn't

 

[jillio]

You got a point.

I'm glad I could ease your mind. Now, no rusty coat hanger lobotomies until at least tomorrow?

 

[Steinhauer]

I completely agree with with these 3 things, although I wish I didn't

I know .. and I think you just hit on the "gist" of what this thread is really about.

I wish things were different too .... but just because there are some very sad and gruesome facts about our past, it does not mean we can sugarcoat it and feed false info to kids.


This whole wall of separation between Church and State thing that Texas is supposedly watering down ... I don't have any info on what they plan to teach.

I'd like to learn more about it.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

I'm glad I could ease your mind. Now, no rusty coat hanger lobotomies until at least tomorrow?

Unless Botts beat you to it with her potato peeler.

 

[jillio]

I completely agree with with these 3 things, although I wish I didn't

Perfect example of distorting the facst is the politically motivated proposed change in the Texas social studies curriculum.

 

[jillio]

Unless Botts beat you to it with her potato peeler.

I will speak with her and ask her to wait.

 

[Steinhauer]

Perfect example of distorting the facst is the politically motivated proposed change in the Texas social studies curriculum.

typical liberal response (even they don't know what is in the curriculum).

 

[jillio]

typical liberal response (even they don't know what is in the curriculum).

Who is "they" and why are they attempting to change a curriculum they know nothing about?

As far as knowing what the curriculum standards are, those are easy to find. The OP lists the proposed changes to specific areas of the curriculum standards. As well as the numerous sources I linked several pages ago. It is public information. Do you know what curriculum standards are?