Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

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Reba said:
So her school was using books older than the ones I used in the 1960's? That is rank. Did the school explain why they were using such old books? Most text books have fallen apart before they become that dated. Also, most text book vendors are persistent in a quicker turnover for their product.
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They were falling apart. Yep...the explanation was, guess what? Funding. Vendors push to sell more updated versions, but it the school district doesn't have the funding to purchase them....

Agreed. It is rank. But a common occurrance in rural schools.
 
Steinhauer said:
Psychiatry's $40,000,000,000 Fraud - The Great Waste - Freedom Magazine Published by Church of Scientology

oops ... their whackjobs ..... right? ;)
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While I agree that far too many kids are being medicated out of their "childhood" (medicated for ADHD when their behavior is just normal or perhaps just a "bratty kid") I disagree that it is all quackery. My mother is bi-polar and she nearly killed our entire family while she was unmedicated. Now she is generally happy and well balanced. My best friend is also severely crippled by anxiety and panic attacks. Without her meds she would have rotted away in an institution. She is now a wonderful mother and productive member of society thanks to her meds.
 
faire_jour said:
While I agree that far too many kids are being medicated out of their "childhood" (medicated for ADHD when their behavior is just normal or perhaps just a "bratty kid") I disagree that it is all quackery. My mother is bi-polar and she nearly killed our entire family while she was unmedicated. Now she is generally happy and well balanced. My best friend is also severely crippled by anxiety and panic attacks. Without her meds she would have rotted away in an institution. She is now a wonderful mother and productive member of society thanks to her meds.
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Thank you for sharing that, FJ. There are any number of people whose very lives, and the lives of their loved ones, are dependent upon the psychotropic medication that controls the symptoms of a biologically based illness such as Bipolar Disorder. And, I too, if you will remember, have stated numerous times that too many children are being medicated into "good behavior" based on nothing more than a teacher's observation.
 
jillio said:
Nope, the result of continued observation of behaviors.
Sweetie, there aren't enough psychotropics on the market to help you.
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You know... those most critical of psychologists have a personal vendetta.

:hmm:

Did someone spent a lot of money, but wasn't satisfied with what what he got?
 
jillio said:
They were falling apart. Yep...the explanation was, guess what? Funding. Vendors push to sell more updated versions, but it the school district doesn't have the funding to purchase them....

Agreed. It is rank. But a common occurrance in rural schools.
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Still, 30 years is a long time not to replace books.
 
souggy said:
You know... those most critical of psychologists have a personal vendetta.

:hmm:

Did someone spent a lot of money, but wasn't satisfied with what what he got?
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It would certainly point in that direction. However, one can be helped only when one is willing to admit they need help and to put forth the effort to contribute to their own treatment.
 
jillio said:
Nope. Quite obvious I don't have it. The ADD on your side of the coin, however....the same can't be said.
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Your right, because you can only "suggest" it but cannot prescribe anyone as having it without putting them under observation per your code of ethics (which you are dangerously close to violating) wink wink nudge nudge.

Of course, there are slander and defamation cases against psychiatrists that abuse their positions.

Namely, "suggesting" someone has it is not the same as saying they have it.

I strongly "suggest" you get bent.
 
Reba said:
Still, 30 years is a long time not to replace books.
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Couldn't agree more. But it was probably less than 30 years, as this particular text referenced the Vietnam War. It was the one I referred to as stating that the U.S. won the Vietnam War. Still...outdated and inacurrate. Can't find a justifiable excuse for either, really.
 
jillio said:
It would certainly point in that direction. However, one can be helped only when one is willing to admit they need help and to put forth the effort to contribute to their own treatment.
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Yes, because forcing someone on medication is a dangerous violation of the code of ethics which you are bound to.

But you would happily do it if you could get away with it.

Fortunately for you, I send this guy emails all the time ... we both laugh (sometimes cry) at how easily there are those psychiatrists that make diagnosis over the internet .....


http://www.outlookcities.com/children/Baughman_MD_ADD_ADHD_Ritalin.htm
 
Steinhauer said:
Your right, because you can only "suggest" it but cannot prescribe anyone as having it without putting them under observation per your code of ethics (which you are dangerously close to violating) wink wink nudge nudge.

Of course, there are slander and defamation cases against psychiatrists that abuse their positions.

Namely, "suggesting" someone has it is not the same as saying they have it.

I strongly "suggest" you get bent.
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Uhhh....no one gets "prescribed" with a disorder. And you have not a clue as to what my code of ethics states.

Looks like we may be getting too close to home for comfort, huh?

I strongly suggest that you take your own advise.

Now, focus. The topic is...
 
Just another problem of liberally slanted bias in public schools .... :roll:

tell the unruly kids ... you have ADD
 
jillio said:
It would certainly point in that direction. However, one can be helped only when one is willing to admit they need help and to put forth the effort to contribute to their own treatment.
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You know... I swear I need to get a lobotomy. I think too much about the "what if" scenarios.

Anyone got a rusty coathanger?
 
Steinhauer said:
Yes, because forcing someone on medication is a dangerous violation of the code of ethics which you are bound to.

But you would happily do it if you could get away with it.

Fortunately for you, I send this guy emails all the time ... we both laugh (sometimes cry) at how easily there are those psychiatrists that make diagnosis over the internet .....


Baughman M.D. -All About ADD/ADHD & Ritalin
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What the hell are you talking about? No one can be forced to take any medication. :roll:

And speaking of defamation and slander, I'd be very careful if I were you, as I have at least 3 instances in which you have committed both.

No diagnosis made here. I asked you a question. Specifically, if you had ever been tested for ADD.
 
souggy said:
You know... I swear I need to get a lobotomy. I think too much about the "what if" scenarios.

Anyone got a rusty coathanger?
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Oh, Gawd! Don't do it with a rusty coathanger!!! All the pus oozing out from under your eye lid would be disgusting!:shock:
 
Okay, folks. I have reached my threshold for tolerance of nonsense and moronic rambling.:lol: Hey, souggy...promise me you'll at least put off that lobotomy until tomorrow!:giggle: Your sanity is much needed.
 
In general, I believe there is too much dependence on text books only for teaching a class.

Even if text books are out of date, teachers should be up to date enough with current affairs to fill in the gaps. That's what my teachers did.

The text book should be the skeleton of the course. It's up to the teacher to put flesh on the bones.

There is too much teaching to the test these days.

There are also too many teachers who seem to be only one chapter ahead of the students.

I've seen teachers mispronounce words from spelling/vocabulary lists, not be able to answer history questions from the students, and give wrong answers to science questions. They spend more time on the techniques of teaching, and administration of the class than anything else.

The kids don't seem to read much of the text books other than search for the answers to the chapter questions, so the impact of the Texas decisions probably won't be that great.
 
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