Texas Board Passes Social Studies Curriculum

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souggy said:
You have to remember... Jiro is 28 years old.

I think things changed in 10 years. :lol:
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True......But 80% is quite a stat.
 
TXgolfer said:
I don't care if they omit the bad personal stuff MLK did......I just think it is unnecessary to use the phrase "good man" in the teaching. That goes for any historical figure.

80% bound for Ivy League schools??????. That has to be the best high school in the country.
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that's Blue Ribbon to ya! 99% graduation rate. Tons of them went to Columbia, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, and private "elitist" schools.

I apologize but sorry for confusion. I always tend to think of "best schools" as Ivy League. There are other much smaller, private schools that are called "Little Ivies." Damn East Coast! :lol: It's also including "highly competitive" schools - both public and private such as UCLA, UVA, VT, Georgia Tech, Texas A&M, Northwestern, etc.

You name it - we've got our peepz there (mostly)
 
Why is that people who go to Yale or Harvard considered, "elite?" They are simply the best of the breed, bar none.

They're smarter and more educated than you are so there.
 
netrox said:
Why is that people who go to Yale or Harvard considered, "elite?" They are simply the best of the breed, bar none.

They're smarter and more educated than you are so there.
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That is debatable. Bush went to both
 
netrox said:
Why is that people who go to Yale or Harvard considered, "elite?" They are simply the best of the breed, bar none.

They're smarter and more educated than you are so there.
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because they have money, power, and privilege - corrupted or not. something that you and I don't have. That's why Bush was the Governor of Texas and President of United States.

You like Obama right? He went to Harvard. So did Michelle.
 
Right, do you want an uneducated person to run the government?
 
netrox said:
Right, do you want an uneducated person to run the government?
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Wouldn't mind giving an undeducated person a chance to run the government. The educated aren't doing too well IMO.
 
Jiro said:
like Sarah Palin? :Ohno:
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I was thinking someone that lives in middle of USA. Don't really want attention. Just someone that has run a business succesfully and willing to work hard in fixing problems and getting out of debt. Can resist lure of money and lobby and etc.. Of course I'm talking about all of them at once. Not just President. President and Congress.

However, we all know that ain't happening!
 
Will they be screening the teachers for accents and grammatical errors? :giggle:
 
Reba said:
Nope.


Which goes to show how sensitive little kids are to their teacher's response.


I didn't say that at all, did I? I said, at least a couple times, that the deeds and impact of MLK should be taught.
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And if one teaches the impact,then one must attach a judgement of whether than impact was negative or positive, and whether that impact was great or lesser.

So, asking someone to teach without adding in any value judgement at all is completely impossible.
 
jillio said:
And if one teaches the impact,then one must attach a judgement of whether than impact was negative or positive, and whether that impact was great or lesser.

So, asking someone to teach without adding in any value judgement at all is completely impossible.
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For example, MLK's impact on voting rights made it possible for more black people to vote. Some people may see that as a positive, some may see it as a negative. The class should discuss what happened as a result of MLK's work but should the students judge the "goodness" of the man?

If you want to teach with a value judgment, then whose value judgment do you use? Christian? Humanist? Muslim? Atheist? :hmm:
 
Reba said:
For example, MLK's impact on voting rights made it possible for more black people to vote. Some people may see that as a positive, some may see it as a negative. The class should discuss what happened as a result of MLK's work but should the students judge the "goodness" of the man?

If you want to teach with a value judgment, then whose value judgment do you use? Christian? Humanist? Muslim? Atheist? :hmm:
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don't need religion to teach about value judgment. for example....

Thomas Jefferson's quote - "All men are created equal."
American value - freedom, equality, human rights
John Adams - "All men are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness."

but I suppose we'll leave the interpretation at teacher's discretion. same thing with legal system and judge's discretion.
 
Reba said:
For example, MLK's impact on voting rights made it possible for more black people to vote. Some people may see that as a positive, some may see it as a negative. The class should discuss what happened as a result of MLK's work but should the students judge the "goodness" of the man?

If you want to teach with a value judgment, then whose value judgment do you use? Christian? Humanist? Muslim? Atheist? :hmm:
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Fine. Go into a classroom and teach instead of interpret. Abide by curriculum standards. Interact with your students and promote discussion to get them thinking for themselves. And then tell me you have not once, in all of that interaction and imparting of information, done something that would imply a value judgement.

As I said, it is an impossible task, and those who keep demanding it are those that have spent zero time educating.
 
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