Student got arrested in a major drug bust at Gallaudet University

Jiro said:
nope marijuana hasn't been decriminalized at federal level yet but Obama expressed that he wanted to.

at this point right now - IMO, 2lbs of marijuana isn't a big issue. it's these 700+ prescription drugs. I wonder what kind but if it's narcotic... she's screwed. very screwed.

I can imagine she would be charged with insurance fraud, medical fraud, theft, and/or illegal possession.
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You're right. I just read up on Obama's comments.

She wasn't caught with 700+ pills. That's just inaccurate reporting on the part of the news.
 
Jiro said:
major difference. OJ didn't really buy his justice - sort of. It's because the state messed up on its part and OJ's lawyers did a very good job pointing it out. If the cops didn't mishandle the evidences and if they followed the proper protocols to the letter, OJ's Dream Team won't even be able to win.
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Agreed. The prosecution bungled that one but a public defender would not have gotten him off... so my argument stands. You need a good lawyer to have a fighting chance in the legal system.
 
Frisky Feline said:
Royale, wonder who reported on her since cops had to enter the room. My god. I kno we each of us who were students once. We knew who sell or whatever. We didnt bother to report and ignore it. But this one someone who had really issue with molly. Wow.
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People SHOULD report dealers. In this case an RA could smell the pot.
 
Royale said:
RA smelled something strong from her room and called DPS (formerly DOSS). When they entered into the room with CRE, you knew the rest of this story. That was how it proceeded when you had a probable cause like smelling odor from marijuana.

As former RA, I busted a few students with marijuana, and they ended up in paying fines. Paying fines were no big deal to me.

Before I became RA, I saw many students including my brothers and friends, do soft and hard drugs on/off the campus and I just shrugged off.
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Of course, during my time, most students smoked in community bathroom (shared) in Peet, Benson and West, so I just smelled the marijuana all time when I enter.

It didn't happened to Carlin because of private bathroom.
 
Foxrac said:
Of course, during my time, most students smoked in community bathroom (shared) in Peet, Benson and West, so I just smelled the marijuana all time when I enter.
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So not even the janitors reported the constant smell?:hmm:
 
NitroHonda said:
This is a good post. I agree with it for the most part.

It sends a bad message when one can freely purchase it in one part of the country and have her life taken away from her in another part of the country. I am not standing up for her smoking pot. Like I said, I will not condone the sale or usage of it. I will condone the very fact that someone can get locked up for a decade in one town and in another be revered for it. The war on drugs is insane and a failure. Molly is not a criminal who deserves 10 years and her being Deaf has nothing to do with it.

She has no money. Her family has no money. She's going to get locked up for a long time just because she has no money. That's another thing... you can only get off if you are able to buy a lawyer. She won't be able to. The criminal justice system is effed up and full of people like Molly... harmless, trying to make a better life for themselves, giving back (teacher?!). I have no interest in locking these people up for an extended time.
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Selling drugs is a federal crime. If found guilty, she would do time in every state. Since she was selling they will also try to find out for how long. The IRS could be involved soon.
 
NitroHonda, I know what you mean, it's the same reason why only half the states have a death penalty or why some cities have higher or lower tax than another. Or why each state has different sentencing guidelines. The law usually/always represents the politics of the area it serves. In this case it's totally where all the federal laws come from, just straight down the street from the white house. It's really bad for her indeed, she should have used more common sense (like before she started dealing the drugs, she should have asked herself 'what state am I in and what are my penalties'). I wonder if she was aware of the risks and shrugged it off, or just ignorant.

I would say she got bad luck. In all other states prostitution is totally illegal while in Nevada it isn't as severe as the others. And you already recognize the society Nevada lives in. Prostitution is like pot, both crimes are victimless and don't cause problems to others - the transactions are consentual and the suspect and victim all agreed to another to proceed. Women who fear getting a felony from prostitution should move to Nevada for the leniency, otherwise you have to live with the consequences if you are prostituting in Boston or NYC or any other place.

NitroHonda said:
She has no money. Her family has no money. She's going to get locked up for a long time just because she has no money. That's another thing... you can only get off if you are able to buy a lawyer. She won't be able to. The criminal justice system is effed up and full of people like Molly... harmless, trying to make a better life for themselves, giving back (teacher?!). I have no interest in locking these people up for an extended time.
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I think in her case, she will likely have a felon title over her head if determined guilty, but if very lucky she will walk off with probation. Most employers balk at the thought of hiring someone with a 'felon' on their case, but some employers are changing today. This area is referred to as reintegrative justice. There are actually some employers in the USA who will hire ex-offenders, because they don't stop at the felon title, they are interested in what crime they did and how long they served. Of course, if you ever murdered someone or are a serial killer then no one will really give you a second chance.

There is a preference for calling them 'reformed offender' because this person no longer represents the past crimes they did and is ready to live a normal citizen life.
You can check out some federal opportunities for felons that benefit employers: BOP.gov: Employing Ex-Offenders
 
NitroHonda said:
Agreed. The prosecution bungled that one but a public defender would not have gotten him off... so my argument stands. You need a good lawyer to have a fighting chance in the legal system.
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I could have gotten the not guilty verdict. Detective Vannatter possessed a vile of blood and broke the chain of custody for blood evidence. That is all you need for reasonable doubt.
 
Tousi said:
So not even the janitors reported the constant smell?:hmm:
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Probably yes, but they don't know anyone who did and the community bathroom is easy place to smoking due to venting.

Today, more and more college with new dorms don't have community bathroom anymore, even new dorm at Gally (LLRH6) don't have community bathroom (the bathroom is in every suite with 4 students in total - looks like Clerc).
 
The news (ABC news) in the earlier youtube/links the reporter was the one who attended Molly's court, in their coverage they reported it as 700 pills. No matter, 100 or 700 we will eventually see the real amount.
 
NitroHonda said:
That's not a police report. There are conflicting news reports.... one says 700 and the other says 100. Both have been posted in this thread.
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According to court documents, a resident adviser called campus police after smelling marijuana coming from a dorm room.
D.C. police arrived and said they found almost two pounds of marijuana, 700 assorted prescription pills, scales and drug paraphernalia, dozens of fudge bars and chocolates which contained marijuana and were allegedly wrapped and ready for distribution and $1,460 in cash hidden in a closet.
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Read more: Molly Sachs, Gallaudet University, arrested for allegedly dealing drugs | WJLA.com
 
NitroHonda said:
Agreed. The prosecution bungled that one but a public defender would not have gotten him off... so my argument stands. You need a good lawyer to have a fighting chance in the legal system.
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There is a statistic, that around 10% of public defenders are successful, so it's not like they always lose. They obviously don't get paid as much as private lawyers. After all, who wants to work a hard job and get paid nothing/free to defendant?

The real reason why public defenders don't win often is because they are usually assigned to people who just passed their BAR and are looking for jobs. Newly and no experience lawyers with just a few years or less on their belt. Someone has to do the public duty, just like people who do not want to go to jury duty.
 
naisho said:
NitroHonda, I know what you mean, it's the same reason why only half the states have a death penalty or why some cities have higher or lower tax than another. Or why each state has different sentencing guidelines. The law usually/always represents the politics of the area it serves. In this case it's totally where all the federal laws come from, just straight down the street from the white house. It's really bad for her indeed, she should have used more common sense (like before she started dealing the drugs, she should have asked herself 'what state am I in and what are my penalties'). I wonder if she was aware of the risks and shrugged it off, or just ignorant.

I would say she got bad luck. In all other states prostitution is totally illegal while in Nevada it isn't as severe as the others. And you already recognize the society Nevada lives in. Prostitution is like pot, both crimes are victimless and don't cause problems to others - the transactions are consentual and the suspect and victim all agreed to another to proceed. Women who fear getting a felony from prostitution should move to Nevada for the leniency, otherwise you have to live with the consequences if you are prostituting in Boston or NYC or any other place.
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Agreed. I also claim stupidity on her part. She was smoking in the room. WHY?!

10 years in one place and nothing in another is just too extreme. Our country is also undergoing the process of relaxing the laws. This is where her bad luck kicks in.

I used to live in Las Vegas for 3 1/2 years. Prostitution is HIGHLY illegal there. It is only out in the rural areas where it's permitted. Many visitors come to Las Vegas thinking that prostitution is legal only to find that it's illegal and end up in a lot of legal trouble. That's not really fair.
 
NitroHonda said:
This is a good post. I agree with it for the most part.

It sends a bad message when one can freely purchase it in one part of the country and have her life taken away from her in another part of the country. I am not standing up for her smoking pot. Like I said, I will not condone the sale or usage of it. I will condone the very fact that someone can get locked up for a decade in one town and in another be revered for it. The war on drugs is insane and a failure. Molly is not a criminal who deserves 10 years and her being Deaf has nothing to do with it.

She has no money. Her family has no money. She's going to get locked up for a long time just because she has no money. That's another thing... you can only get off if you are able to buy a lawyer. She won't be able to. The criminal justice system is effed up and full of people like Molly... harmless, trying to make a better life for themselves, giving back (teacher?!). I have no interest in locking these people up for an extended time.
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I scared to say - sometime, the deaf could be factor in the court and I watch some documentaries about 2 deaf men got charged with murder in KY. The prosecutor and victim families want death penalty for 2 deaf men who did murdered the one man who worked at army surplus. At final, the jury rather to sentence 2 deaf men to life in prison instead of death penalty, so the victim families were very upset because they felt that deaf is factor for reduce the penalty.

For me, I got speeding ticket for speeding on interstate and the judge dismissed the speeding ticket, so I don't have to pay anything, even no court fees. There are some of my friends have same experience and one judge dismissed all speeding ticket (He got 3 in one year) without pay anything. For hearing people, they are on opposite because their cases will not dismissed without costly fight from traffic lawyers, but for first time, they usually have to attend the traffic school.
 
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naisho said:
NitroHonda said:
Agreed. The prosecution bungled that one but a public defender would not have gotten him off... so my argument stands. You need a good lawyer to have a fighting chance in the legal system.
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There is a statistic, that around 10% of public defenders are successful, so it's not like they always lose. They obviously don't get paid as much as private lawyers. After all, who wants to work a hard job and get paid nothing/free to defendant?

The real reason why public defenders don't win often is because they are usually assigned to people who just passed their BAR and are looking for jobs. Newly and no experience lawyers with just a few years or less on their belt. Someone has to do the public duty, just like people who do not want to go to jury duty.
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Exactly. Attorneys are required so many hours of Pro Bono. Sorta like an intern.
 
TXgolfer said:
Read more: Molly Sachs, Gallaudet University, arrested for allegedly dealing drugs | WJLA.com
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Gallaudet student arrested on drug distribution charges - Crime Scene - The Washington Post

A more thorough search, police said in court papers, revealed $1,460 in cash, in a closet, white fudge police said smelled of marijuana, and nine clear bags of marijuana in the bathroom. Police also said they found more than 100 prescription pills.
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What's your point? Neither are the actual police reports. It's bad reporting which is nothing new.
 
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