STDs still on the rise, report says

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Reba said:
How do the actions of other people reflect off my morals and standards? I don't control other people.

I'm curious why you think that is something to smile about?


It takes more than programs to change people.

Do you have proof of cause and effect?
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No you don't.

But if your state ranks in the top 3 of the 2 STD's--something isn't working in South Carolina. By looking at it--it makes one wonder what is going on in the Low Country.....
 
BradB08 said:
Anti-virginity liberals?

Seriously, where do you people come up with this crap?
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Byrdie714 said:
B.S.

We're moral.

The difference between you and us is this: We're realistic--you're not.
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You guys ask liberals, not me. They are the ones who told me that. :|

Bold font, Brydie -
Yet you don't EVEN know me at all. So don't call me "unrealistic". =/
 
sex ed is not promoting to go and have sex. They tell you it is best to wait til you are married. And teach the prevention of diseases and pregnancy and the emotional ties to sex. It is not like sex ed is telling them to go out and do it and have fun.

I don't ever remember being taught to go and have sex. I have always been told to wait. but I also knew how to protect myself.
 
Reba said:
But we aren't animals--we can make conscious decisions about our behaviors instead of following animal instincts.

Yes, sexual desire is a wonderful God-given part of our being but there are times for restraint. Just like an appetite for food, which is necessary for our lives, there are limitations for our good health.
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Reba, you know... I just don't understand why are they following in an animal's steps? Do we, humans, have to follow animal instincts...? If an animal sex with another animal is okay, then a human sex with another human should be okay too. That means ... that would lead to increase the number of humans like cats & dogs and other animals. I meant, look at that. Desire of sexual pleasure with no self-control and self-respect. Not just the rate of human race... there are also relationship crisis, often cheating, affairs, screwing around, and so on. Oh boy, I guess we should act like an animal because it is a "natural"... =/

In the note - this quote is my POV & opinion.
 
I dont even understand being taught abstinence. That's not information. That's just telling someone what to do.

"Come on baby. Let's have sex."
"No. Mrs. Blume told me not to have sex."

Honestly, does anyone NOT have sex because their 6th grade teacher told them to? NO. People don't have sex because of religion, they are not comfortable with the other person, scared of contacting something, scared of getting pregnant, or the other person is not quite special enough, waiting until marriage, and so on. ALL having to do with your own personality and how you were raised.
 
Babyblue said:
sex ed is not promoting to go and have sex. They tell you it is best to wait til you are married. And teach the prevention of diseases and pregnancy and the emotional ties to sex. It is not like sex ed is telling them to go out and do it and have fun.

I don't ever remember being taught to go and have sex. I have always been told to wait. but I also knew how to protect myself.
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Well, if you are a member of GaiaOnline [Anime/Manga fans](I doubt you are), then tell me why so many teenagers are talking about and/or already have some sexual activities? Of course, I'm aware that posts & threads are not always true but why are they completely in it? Keep that mind, they are mostly high school students and some middle school students...

EDIT: And GaiaOnline is average 60 to 90 thousands each day (I think), depends on a day. Today, it is about 82,530 members are logged in now...

PS - Sorry, I accidently quoted you, Daredevil.. my quote is for babyblue. Sorry, my bad... >_<
 
KarissaMann05 said:
Reba, you know... I just don't understand why are they following in an animal's steps? Do we, humans, have to follow animal instincts...? If an animal sex with another animal is okay, then a human sex with another human should be okay too. That means ... that would lead to increase the number of humans like cats & dogs and other animals. I meant, look at that. Desire of sexual pleasure with no self-control and self-respect. Not just the rate of human race... there are also relationship crisis, often cheating, affairs, screwing around, and so on. Oh boy, I guess we should act like an animal because it is a "natural"... =/

In the note - this quote is my POV & opinion.
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You're right. "Natural" isn't always the best way to behave, is it?
 
Byrdie714 said:
No you don't.

But if your state ranks in the top 3 of the 2 STD's--something isn't working in South Carolina. By looking at it--it makes one wonder what is going on in the Low Country.....
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Could be lots of things or a combination of things.

We have a huge percentage of snow birds and transplants from other states, large number of rural poor, decades of inadequate public education, cultural traditions, high acceptance of unwed motherhood, etc.
 
Safe sex is not accidental. It has to be done on purpose.
The better educated and informed one is, the better off one is.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
You guys ask liberals, not me. They are the ones who told me that. :|

Bold font, Brydie -
Yet you don't EVEN know me at all. So don't call me "unrealistic". =/
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It's "unrealistic" to teach abstinence to a bunch of teenagers when the stats are stating that STD rates are higher in that age group. Secondly, have you seen the teenage pregnancy rate? It's up again.

Reba said:
So?
It might be fun for you but it's not for me.
I don't believe "we came from monkeys."
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The first comment was towards Brad as he wanted to see the stats, second comment--gotta take a grain of salt when you participate in discussing things on the boards, and third--it's all evolutionary.

Reba said:
You're right. "Natural" isn't always the best way to behave, is it?
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So we all show quit screwing one another and become homosexual? :lol:

Reba said:
Could be lots of things or a combination of things.

We have a huge percentage of snow birds and transplants from other states, large number of rural poor, decades of inadequate public education, cultural traditions, high acceptance of unwed motherhood, etc.
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Okay--now we are getting somewhere.......with the above scenario--what has is your state doing in combating this?
 
Foxrac said:
I don't believe in gay marriage and STD has nothing with homosexual only, also you can still get STD if you are heterosexual.

Both of homosexual or heterosexual aren't matters for STD or AIDS.
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no........ Byrdie's referring to decades-old cultural stereotype... there are still many ignorant people out there who think AIDS is a "gay disease" and it originated from gay sex in San Fransisco. and that gays should be banned because it's "destroying" the community.

good riddance to religious fanatics for inventing that :roll:
 
Reba said:
It's not the philosophy of abstinence that spreads STDs; it's the failure of people not abstaining or staying faithful that spreads STDs.
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And that is the philosophy of absitnence only...just say no. Don't educate. Remain naive and unrealistic in your expectations. People have never abstained, nor is it reasonable to expect that they will. Therefore, the solution is to educate and prepare those that don't. To expect that people will sudenly begin to change sexual practices that have gone on since man first walked this earth is nothing short of sticking one's head in the sand. And it contributes, it does not reduce, the problems of transmission of STDs and teen aged pregnancy. Those problems in turn create additional social problems that all, even the abstainers, must become responsible for.
 
Reba said:
And that behavior becomes more acceptable.

It's not just a matter of education and information. As much as people don't like to hear it, it's a matter of morality.

People are more educated than ever about sex and yet STDs are spreading. They can get condoms and spermicides, and yet they still catch diseases and become pregnant. So obviously education and access are not the solutions.
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People are not more educated than ever, and that is the result of the 1.5 billion dollars that has been sunk into absitinence only programs over the last eight years.

Sex education is not a matter of morality. Morality is decided by the individual. It is a matter of public health.

And, if education makes one more likely to engage in a practice, how do you explain the fact that teens who are educated using an abstinence only approach and those that take "virginity pledges" are engaging in sex at the same age, experience the same number of partners, and have sex with the same frequency as those who receive a more comprehensive education, with the only significant difference being the first group is less likely to use protection?

Likewise, if education leads to practicing that which one is educated regarding, why do we bother with drug and alcohol education in the schools?
 
Reba said:
I don't suggest that we can force moral behavior on people. We just need to face the fact that morality in general will continue to decline, and social conditions will also decline. Statistics will back me up on this.

Please provide an example of those statistics.
The solution is people behaving better but that isn't going to happen. As long as people focus on their own pleasure over responsible behavior, we'll have all the associated problems.

We'll end up with a very selfish, self-righteous, educated, fully accessed population infected with STDs.
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That, quite simply, is one of those "slippery slope" arguments that, in reality, do not play out, and is quite often used by those that, rather than actually working toward solutions that benefit society in general, prefer to do nothing more than sit back and judge the morality and value of others.
 
BradB08 said:
You don't but yet you bring up morality when talking about STDs. It's a PUBLIC HEALTH issue, not a MORALITY issue!
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Bingo. Moral and amoral alike become responsible for the social consequences of public health issues.
 
Reba said:
I don't tell you how to behave, and you don't need to tell me how to behave, thank you.
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Then why are you telling people that if they would only abstain and stay monogamous, we would not have a problem with the transmission of STDs?
 
Byrdie714 said:
My state isn't in the top 3 for having one of the highest STD rate. :giggle:

And we have comprehensive sex ed classes.

None of this..... "You'll BURN in hell for all eternity if you lust after that woman." :giggle:
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As well as several needle exchange programs which also reduces the spread of sexually transmitted diseases such as HIV/AIDS and Hep C. In fact, through the King Co. needle exchange program, the incidence of newly diagnosed HIV cases has been reduced by a whopping 16% over a matter of a few years. It also has succeeded in serving as a vehicle for getting I.V. drug users into treatment, thus changing their behavior and decreasing future risk. How does it manage to do this? Through education, and dealing with the reality of the situation, rather than by instituting a bunch of "just say no" programs.
 
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