Sin

[Reba]

Not everyone want to be married, how do they release sex hormones if they are not allowed to have sex? If I was to stay virgin and never been married, I would have still get those wet dreams and release sex energy in my sleep because my body need to release it. It is sin against God if I fight against my body by release it. It brings my body down with different kind of disease. Having disease in our body is sinning against God.

It is true that marriage is not for everyone. Some Christians take their singleness as a blessing because it allows them to focus on serving God without the distraction of family responsibilities. They are more free to travel as missionaries, or spend long hours working in their ministries, without ignoring a spouse or family.

If God provides a person with the gift of singleness, then He will also provide a way for that person to deal with temptation and desires.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Reba, AMEN! If they have a burning desire for having sex each other and it is better go ahead and get married. It will be a pure in God's eyes. After that you can ask for forgiving from the Lord. In the Old Testament that we must honoring the Lord because our body are His image. After that, you are done! You can always enjoy more sex in marriage life!!

I learned in my divorce session back in 1999, when anyone living together before marriage can lead to higher rate in the divorce.

 

[Momoftwo]

God commanded that sex before marriage is wrong, period. Even sex with just one person before marriage is sin. God said that fornication is a sin. Period.


No, God does not "allow" sex before marriage.

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

I'm very GLAD that my husband and I did sex before our marriage because what if we never did, we never know we would not be happy in the relationship like bad sex. No way!! I've heard that people who had sex after marriage and they ended up in DIVORCED!! That's not healthy.

Ok, Reba,,,,

Let me ask you....

Do you shop on Sundays?

Do u think it's okay for people to go shopping on Sundays?

Do u think it's okay for men to have haircut in the front of the forehead?

Do u think it's okay for people to get tattoos?

Well, God said NO, don't go shopping on Sundays, don't work on Sundays, don't cut the men's hair above the forehead, don't get the tattoos.

Do you think the bible makes sense to you?

Off the point, I am a HUGEEEEEE faith in God and God is so very wonderful but I still find that the Bible is not what I agree with people who believe like you believe in what you find the scriptures.

Ahhh, perfect example, MANY hearing people including my husband don't agree with the scripture of Exodus 4:11 (it's about God who made people deaf on purpose) They believe that it just happened...not from God.

Some scriptures don't make sense to today.

I prayed to God about this scripture and God said yes He allowed that. It's been over 2 thousands years!!!!

This is your opinion and this is my opinion because this is how I understand.

I prayed to God about you, Askjo, etc today and God said to me "not to worry" with his smile feeling to me. I feel so much better!!

God knows that it is impossible for everyone to udnerstand the scriptures of the whole bible.

It's NOT worth to argue with you all.

Peace!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Regards,
Momoftwo

 

[Momoftwo]

I learned in my divorce session back in 1999, when anyone living together before marriage can lead to higher rate in the divorce.

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience.

I lived with my husband for 10 months before we got married. I had a very good reason because I was extremely upset about my father's death so I needed my husband's support so he moved to my apartment and lived with me.

I asked my mother for her permission and she knew what the bible said but she listened to her heart (God speaking to her) and God allowed that so my mother told me yes that my husband can live with me. It was so worth it!! Now, it's been almost 20 years of marriage and it is still very strong, very beautiful marriage. We still are very madly in love with each other and we can't imagine to be apart. We both are very cherished to each other.

Well, how do u explain to that??? We did live together and we did have sex before marriage. Well, we are still very, very happily married!!!!!!

Many people that I know who already did have sex before marriage and some of them lived together before marriage and all of them are still married.

Obviously, you were just in bad luck - just happened. I'm very sorry that it happened to you.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Hugs,
Momoftwo

 

[The*Empress]

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

I'm very GLAD that my husband and I did sex before our marriage because what if we never did, we never know we would not be happy in the relationship like bad sex. No way!! I've heard that people who had sex after marriage and they ended up in DIVORCED!! That's not healthy.

On Oprah, there was a teenage girl who got HIV, and she has to tell men that she has HIV, and men looked at her strange and left her... And she cried because she wish for wedding and to have a family and have many kids.

Could you imagine at age 17 with HIV and for the rest of your life... nobody wants to marry you?

All because you wanna test sex before marriage and see if your husband
is doing it right? Does that make sense? And then argue with him, that
your previous boyfriend satisfied you and make your husband feel so bad that he can't f*** right?

And I had sex with 3 guys, and they all are the same... I was thinking
I might as well do it with my husband...

And I don't know why I want to marry a man, because sex is no longer a SURPRISE!!!!

I wish I should have done it with my future husband, instead of doing it with 3 creepy men who don't care about me at all.


Do you shop on Sundays? Shopping is not WORK.

Do u think it's okay for people to go shopping on Sundays? Shopping is not work

Do u think it's okay for men to have haircut in the front of the forehead?
Christians can do that.... not Jewish. Men got ugly haircut, I don't like that.

Do u think it's okay for people to get tattoos? Christians can do that, Jesus
allowed us to do these things... tattoos are stupid and plus it is poisonous

Well, God said NO, don't go shopping on Sundays, don't work on Sundays, don't cut the men's hair above the forehead, don't get the tattoos.
Christians can do those things... Paul said we can.

Do you think the bible makes sense to you? Yes it does. It doesn't make sense to have sex before marriage, have an ugly haircut on forehead, and have stupid tattoo on your body. So what is the problem?

Off the point, I am a HUGEEEEEE faith in God and God is so very wonderful but I still find that the Bible is not what I agree with people who believe like you believe in what you find the scriptures.

Ahhh, perfect example, MANY hearing people including my husband don't agree with the scripture of Exodus 4:11 (it's about God who made people deaf on purpose) They believe that it just happened...not from God.

Some scriptures don't make sense to today.

I prayed to God about this scripture and God said yes He allowed that. It's been over 2 thousands years!!!!

This is your opinion and this is my opinion because this is how I understand.

I prayed to God about you, Askjo, etc today and God said to me "not to worry" with his smile feeling to me. I feel so much better!!

God knows that it is impossible for everyone to udnerstand the scriptures of the whole bible.

It's NOT worth to argue with you all.

Peace!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Regards,
Momoftwo


YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THE BIBLE RULES HARD.....

You guys don't wanna follow the rules, so you can LIE, CHEAT, Have a STUPID looking HAIRCUT, and ugly TATTOO and sex before marriage IS DUMB.

 

[Maria]

That's your belief. God was talking about having too many sexes with many people before marriage. This is what I understand.

My belief ? Well, Jesus said so before I believe Him. That's His Holy Word He said it is a sin to fornicate ( sexual intercourse before marriage ). He never said it was OKAY to have sex BEFORE marriage. His Word is against yours. Could you tell me WHO is right ?

Main Entry: for·ni·ca·tion
Pronunciation: "for-n&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
: consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other -- compare ADULTERY

Definition of fornication - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

 

[Momoftwo]

My belief ? Well, Jesus said so before I believe Him. That's His Holy Word He said it is a sin to fornicate ( sexual intercourse before marriage ). He never said it was OKAY to have sex BEFORE marriage. His Word is against yours. Could you tell me WHO is right ?

Same here to you....Could you tell me WHO is right??

I talked to few very strong christians about the bible and they told me that they don't believe half of it in the bible. They said that the most important is to believe in God and Jesus who died for us. period! I totally agree with them.

The bible stories are TWO THOUSANDS YEARS OLD and today is changed.

I'm sorry that I don't believe some of it in the bible because it does NOT make sense to me because some of them are so old and today is so different than 2,000 yrs ago.

So, it drives me crazy! I just talked to my sister about you all of your opinions and she said that is your opinions because the bible does not make sense sometimes.

The MOST important thing is that I believe in God and Jesus who died for us. That's all matters to me. My relatives, family members and friends of mine agree with me about believe in God and Jesus. Forget about the bible because it does not make sense to today....I found some scriptures that it makes sense which is about 50%. The rest of other 50% don't make sense.

Anyway, I still have a HUGEEEE faith in God and I am a very strong christian which means that I totally believe in God and Jesus who died for us. The bible has only morals (stories) which is hard to believe and some doesnt make sense.

God told me in my heart today and He said, "not to worry" with his smile feeling. He knows that it is very, very difficult for so many people to understand the bible scriptures and so impossible for everyone to believe. God said to me, "the most important is to believe in God and Jesus who died for us". I'm a very good person, very loving person.

I do not want to get too involved with this because it is starting to heat up or fire up. I'd better to stay out of this situation because you know talking about regilious stuff is wayy too sticky that can cause arguings. No thanks!

 

[The*Empress]

We don't need to believe IN the Bible...

We need to believe IN GOD....

The Bible isn't telling us what we need to do....

The Bible is a book full of STORIES....

It is just like HISTORY BOOK....

We don't take scripture from the History Book and
said, hey we all must wear Afro and Bell Bottom Pants.

It was a style that the Jewish people wore and how they trim their hair
long time ago... and it doesn't mean we have to look like that today...

And the Church doesn't make sense to me either, the preacher
just take out God's quote and twisted God's words...

I think that is insane.

All we need to do is Worship GOD like the Catholic people do...
Just PRAY PRAY PRAY... and GO HOME!!!

not listen to the Preacher for hours and have Bible Thumpers telling
us we will go to HELL.

That is not what God wanted us to do...

And I don't think we should give money to the Church....

We suppose to give money to the Homeless people, that what Jesus
would want us to do.

 

[Momoftwo]

We don't need to believe IN the Bible...

We need to believe IN GOD....

The Bible isn't telling us what we need to do....

The Bible is a book full of STORIES....

It is just like HISTORY BOOK....

We don't take scripture from the History Book and
said, hey we all must wear Afro and Bell Bottom Pants.

It was a style that the Jewish people wore and how they trim their hair
long time ago... and it doesn't mean we have to look like that today...

And the Church doesn't make sense to me either, the preacher
just take out God's quote and twisted God's words...

I think that is insane.

All we need to do is Worship GOD like the Catholic people do...
Just PRAY PRAY PRAY... and GO HOME!!!

not listen to the Preacher for hours and have Bible Thumpers telling
us we will go to HELL.

That is not what God wanted us to do...

And I don't think we should give money to the Church....

We suppose to give money to the Homeless people, that what Jesus
would want us to do.

Exactly!! Yes!!

 

[Maria]

Same here to you....Could you tell me WHO is right??

I talked to few very strong christians about the bible and they told me that they don't believe half of it in the bible. They said that the most important is to believe in God and Jesus who died for us. period! I totally agree with them.

The bible stories are TWO THOUSANDS YEARS OLD and today is changed.

I'm sorry that I don't believe some of it in the bible because it does NOT make sense to me because some of them are so old and today is so different than 2,000 yrs ago.

So, it drives me crazy! I just talked to my sister about you all of your opinions and she said that is your opinions because the bible does not make sense sometimes.

The MOST important thing is that I believe in God and Jesus who died for us. That's all matters to me. My relatives, family members and friends of mine agree with me about believe in God and Jesus. Forget about the bible because it does not make sense to today....I found some scriptures that it makes sense which is about 50%. The rest of other 50% don't make sense.

Anyway, I still have a HUGEEEE faith in God and I am a very strong christian which means that I totally believe in God and Jesus who died for us. The bible has only morals (stories) which is hard to believe and some doesnt make sense.

God told me in my heart today and He said, "not to worry" with his smile feeling. He knows that it is very, very difficult for so many people to understand the bible scriptures and so impossible for everyone to believe. God said to me, "the most important is to believe in God and Jesus who died for us". I'm a very good person, very loving person.

I do not want to get too involved with this because it is starting to heat up or fire up. I'd better to stay out of this situation because you know talking about regilious stuff is wayy too sticky that can cause arguings. No thanks!

Answer to your question : Jesus is 100% right. He NEVER lied nor twisted His Word to people. I mean, N E V E R ! So, therefore, I believe in the bible.

You said you have a HUGE faith in God, right ? Howwww since you don't believe 100% in God's Word ? Without havin' a FULL faith in Him, you will be sinkin' in the water.

Nah, I am not arguin'. I like to debate about the Truth.

 

[Momoftwo]

Answer to your question : Jesus is 100% right. He NEVER lied nor twisted His Word to people. I mean, N E V E R ! So, therefore, I believe in the bible.

You said you have a HUGE faith in God, right ? Howwww since you don't believe 100% in God's Word ? Without havin' a FULL faith in Him, you will be sinkin' in the water.

Nah, I am not arguin'. I like to debate about the Truth.

Who WROTE the scriptures? It's people like Numbers, Exodus, Mark, John, etc. It was NOT Jesus who wrote the scriptures. It's the people who heard the God's words and wrote the scriptures.

I never said "Jesus never lied or twisted his words to people".

YES, I have a HUGEEEEEEEEEEE FAITH in God. Sure, I don't believe some of the bible's scriptures because it was the PEOPLE who heard the messages from God.

That's why I heard God's words today....God said to me, "Not to worry....yes, it is very, very difficult for so many people to UNDERSTAND the bible today....so...NOT to worry".....with his smile feelings. I feel SO MUCH BETTER. God knows that it is SO DIFFICULT for so many people to understand the bible. God really NEEDS people to BELIEVE IN GOD and BELIEVE IN JESUS WHO DIED FOR US!!!!!! That's the MOST important to HIM!!!!!

You are here to DEBATE with me like arguing with me. I don't like it at all. YES, I am in a HUGE FAITH in God in FULL!!! You are way too judge on me for that!!

LEAVE ME ALONE....don't fighting with me!

 

[Maria]

Well, this thread is IN " On-topic Debates " forum. I am entitled to debate.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Who WROTE the scriptures? It's people like Numbers, Exodus, Mark, John, etc. It was NOT Jesus who wrote the scriptures. It's the people who heard the God's words and wrote the scriptures. QUOTE]

Hi! Momoftwo,

They are trying help you clear. I can tell they not want be fight with you all. You said about top story. Moses wrote the law from God's message...

Bible said John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.


Exodus 20:20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.



King James Version is only one truth. If you live in Isreal so there are studies the Bible more more deepeest more than KJV. My friend who is evangle there. He lived there only 5 yrs. He found out the Bible books more more than KJV. He say to me that KJV short Bible.

 

[The*Empress]

I am confused with the word, Believe in...

I believe the events actually happen in the Bible, but

Luke, John, Matthew, and Mark wrote from their point of views about Jesus
Christ...

I can't say which one who I believe in.... but I honor them and their
writings.

And King James's Bibles, he changed some words in the Bible, and I
honor him for doing that.

And there are many many many type of Bibles.... that are written
in many different ways....

And I can't say I don't believe the writers, but I Honor them

I do believe everything happen in the Bible, and it is TRUE...

But I don't believe the movie's TEN COMMANDMENTS... because
the Pharoah played by Yul Brenner, didn't die in the Red Sea, but
the Bible said the Pharoah did die in the Red Sea...

And most Bibles, the writers BAN some words in the Bible

All it is matter is You Believe in GOD.

 

[shel90]

I am confused with the word, Believe in...

I believe the events actually happen in the Bible, but

Luke, John, Matthew, and Mark wrote from their point of views about Jesus
Christ...

I can't say which one who I believe in.... but I honor them and their
writings.

And King James's Bibles, he changed some words in the Bible, and I
honor him for doing that.

And there are many many many type of Bibles.... that are written
in many different ways....

And I can't say I don't believe the writers, but I Honor them

I do believe everything happen in the Bible, and it is TRUE...

But I don't believe the movie's TEN COMMANDMENTS... because
the Pharoah played by Yul Brenner, didn't die in the Red Sea, but
the Bible said the Pharoah did die in the Red Sea...

And most Bibles, the writers BAN some words in the Bible

All it is matter is You Believe in GOD.

Amen to that!

I am not a big religous person but I believe in having faith. I dont believe in organized religion cuz of all the rules and twisting of the words from the Bible that different preachers do. Too confusing. I go to a deaf church and the preacher picks a scripture and we all discuss the meaning of it and how to apply in our lives. I think that is fun!

 

[Momoftwo]

All it is matter is You Believe in GOD.

Exactly right! That's the most important one!

 

[Momoftwo]

I am not a big religous person but I believe in having faith. I dont believe in organized religion cuz of all the rules and twisting of the words from the Bible that different preachers do. Too confusing.

Yes...exactly!

 

[EagleCherokee63]

My belief ? Well, Jesus said so before I believe Him. That's His Holy Word He said it is a sin to fornicate ( sexual intercourse before marriage ). He never said it was OKAY to have sex BEFORE marriage. His Word is against yours. Could you tell me WHO is right ?

Main Entry: for·ni·ca·tion
Pronunciation: "for-n&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
: consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other -- compare ADULTERY

Definition of fornication - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Exactly!!

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

It not God's will. They desire sin sex before marriage.

explain: Exd 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. If I serve Lord, become I tempt sex sin. It called adultery spiritual! God feel hurt because I rebuked against Lord.

And explain: I am married my husband, I decide cheat other men. It called Adultrey.

Adultrey means had many lists. It not just one for married so had many many means what CyberRed said about Dictionary means for·ni·ca·tion.

Jesus said (red word)
Bible said Matthew 5: 27-30. Jesus teaches them here...

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

1 Corinthians 7:34-38 This are very power proof here... KJV Bible said here

34 There is difference [also] between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please [her] husband.

35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of [her] age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.

37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.

38 So then he that giveth [her] in marriage doeth well; but he that

 

[Maria]

I concur ! Amen !!