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I think God doesn't care who we LOVE or gay marriage for love...

ALL HE WANT US TO DO IS MULTIPLY.... And have MARRIAGE so that
man can do it only with his wife to MULTIPLY....

Seem like nobody understand this simple LIFE.

That is why you guys are not HAPPY right now... because
you guys aren't doing the right thing.

ALL of us should be marry... and all of us should have kids...
Not wait after having college degree and get best career there is or
exploring your sexuality and stuff.

Not every one want to be married and have kids. Some of us are not made for marriage and being parents.
 
Sorry, I beleive the biggest sin that we humans have is death. Sin is defined as missing the mark. God made men to be like him, but we die, so we sin with death. No matter what you do, you sin. Now, how you behave with this life will also mean what God will do with you after you die. He forgives everyone, but it harded to forgive someone if they just shit on you all the time.

That is my feelings and what I beleive and that is the reason why I am not worried abt sin. I ask God to forgive me everyday. I don't go to church, but then again, God also said he will be there with us no matter where you are. You don't have to go to a building every week to pray to him, you can do it while you in bed or driving or anywhere that you need him. Trust me, I need God to get me throw the day most of the time.

I agree sins bring death, none of us can live forever with our malfunction bodies.
 
you can avoid sins.

think of all the SINS you have done in year 2006...

And do you think those SINS were necessary????

Have you ever lie, then people eventually find out you lie anyway,
was it worth it?

We really don't need to sins...

Come on, we women don't have to have sex, we could wait after marriage
or have no sex at all.

And men, they can just get a wife and have sex with their wives...
They don't need 100 or more people to have sex with... Do they
feel better after having sex with many people??????????

I DON'T THINK SO.

Orgasm is orgasm.

Come on. Is it worth getting yourself Sexually Tranmitted Disease or having 10 babies you can't afford, born out of wedlock....????

Of course I sin everyday with all my thoughts, with all my heart and with all my soul and I may not know it. I may hurt your feeling and I did not know it which it is sin I committed against u. As for sex, true we need to have self displicine to protect ourselves from harm oursleves. got to go now, got call in to go to work.
 
BUT...well, what about "no sex before marriage"????? It does NOT make a sense to me.

I know that it's not a good idea to have sex with so many people before marriage. But I think it's fine for people to fall in love and somehow they want to have sex before marriage because of the love and also, to make sure that you really love that person so it's worth to have sex before marriage. If you believe not to have sex before marriage, will you be happy with your spouse after you get married and have sex????? Divoriced???

My strong belief is that it is FINE for having sex before marriage. That's what I don't understand why God would say that in the Bible?????? OR a different interpretation??????? Maybe no sex before marriage means that God does not want people to have sex with so many people before marriage???? I think God allows people to have sex before marriage - only one or two or three times with different person to make sure if they love them or not before they make the decision for marriages.
Fornication (meaning sex before marriage) is wrong in God's sight. If you have sex with someone before marriage, that means you are a pornographer -- Read Hebrews 12:4 -- Notice marriage is HONORABLE!!!! That is why sex is for marriage only. Gal 5:19 said fornication is one of the WORKS of flesh because verse 1 said the flesh lusts against the Spirit.

The Biblical Greek word for fornication and whoremongers is "pornos." You know a word, "porn." Fornication is a PORN debauchery. Sex before marriage IS porn !!!!

If you believe in sex before marriage, are you a pornographer? Fornicators and whoremonfgers are also pornographers. Hebrews 12:4 said they will be judged by God.

To break the virginity do nothing with divorce. The Bible said the divorcement is caused by hardening the heart AND trouble in life. 1 Cor 7:28.

High percent for divorce came from the fornication. High percent for divorce also came from around 18 ages because teenagers wanted to break their virginity too early -- immature!!! Many couples who were virgins got married and stayed together for many years until they decided to file for divorce.

Sex before marriage is not because of love, but because of the lust of the flesh that is of the devil!!!! (1 John 2:16) Sex before marriage is an insult to God because "porn" is sin.

On other word, "Playboy" magaizine is a pornographic magazine.
 
Prostitution is not a sin and not immoral??? :eek3:

Prostitution and Prostitution Is Not A Biblical Conflict


I have an incurable admiration for sexually liberated women.
Prostitutes typically fit that description. If they were not comfortable with sex, it would be highly unlikely that they would try to turn it into a profession.
The concept makes sense. I look around, and I see many people craving good sex.
In these times of rampant hypocrisy, there is something refreshing, genuine, almost admirable about a prostitute.
A prostitute is the antithesis of a hypocrite. A prostitute make no claims of being morally right. But what you see is what you get. Sometimes, the customers are the hypocrites. And quite often, people in power who are prosecuting prostitutes, are hypocrites.
Prostitution, at least at the upper end of the scale, is about glamour. In some forms, it is only a step away from modeling. I believe it is Gucci, who ran ads in "Elle", showing prostitutes walking the streets. Glamour is fascinating.
Prostitution is as old as the world. Yet, these days, it is suddenly an idea whose time has come again.
A Few Thoughts
In its most basic form, prostitution is nothing but a contract between consenting people. A contract to provide sex in exchange for payment.

Since sex is not inherently immoral, and neither is the exchange of money, prostitution is not inherently immoral. :eek3:

It has been said that prostitution is as old as the world. It has also been said that prostitution occurs between animals; it has been observed amongst chimpanzees and penguins. :eek3:

Some marriages involve a situation where one party provides most of the money, and the other party is expected to consent to sex. In some cases, very little sex is exchanged for access to a lot of money.

Divorce is not illegal. But in many cases, divorce is immoral.

In some marriages, the use of prostitutes by one of the spouses, is tolerated by the other spouse. The prostitute provides a function one of the spouses is not willing to provide. The prostitute is not much different from the maid. :eek3:


The Need
Prostitution does fulfill an identifiable societal function. In some cases, it can be a substitute for psychological or marriage counseling. It might even prevent divorce. Although usually an imperfect solution, it can be a cost- effective one. Shrinks are expensive. So are lawyers and settlements.

Prostitution provides a safety valve against frustration, especially for people who are not attractive or have few social skills. Also in couples that have very different sex drives and might otherwise be headed for affairs or divorce.

Closer to home, in a society where sexual advances can carry very negative legal consequences, in a society where an exposed marital infidelity can destroy a career, prostitution should be expected to become an alternative of choice.

The fact that prostitution is illegal, may sometimes encourage it. It guarantees a measure of anonymity and silence, which may not otherwise be feasible.

Oversexed Males and Undersexed Females
In most cases, prostitutes tend to be women, while clients tend to be men. This may be partially due to the fact that men may have easier access to money. But it probably also means that in this society, there is a deficit of sexually available females with respect to sexually needy males.

Changing Perceptions
It used to be that prostitution was for losers. For those men who could not find a woman in any other way. Using a prostitute was something nobody would normally admit to.

That perception is changing. I was at a party the other day, with some very promising young lawyers (as well as a number of attractive women). One lawyer was talking to the other: "Hey, let's go to Vancouver next weekend, and see some girls..."

Why Illegal?
The justification for making prostitution illegal, usually has to do with the protection of women, and the control of sexually transmitted diseases. That could make sense if as a result of the law, prostitution completely ceased to exist.

In practice however, the fact that prostitution is illegal, normally results in the exploitation or abuse of prostitutes, and does contribute to the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

Illegal prostitutes may be the target of violence or rape, and will be hesitant to contact the police. Or else, they may simply disappear, and nobody may ever know.

Similarly, by driving prostitution underground, the law effectively makes it impossible to maintain any form of sanitary control. Of course, street prostitution is the worst, since it often occurs indiscriminately, at night and in a rush.

More recently, legal scholars have opined that Roe v. Wade may legalize prostitution. If a woman has a constitutional right to decide whether or not to keep a pregnancy, why would she not have a right to use her body as she sees fit, including the right to offer it for sale (maybe "rent" would be a more appropriate term)?

Punishing the prostitute rather than the client makes very little rational sense, if the stated goal of the law was to protect the prostitute in the first place.

Insecurity
A more plausible explanation as to why society seems so bent on outlawing prostitution, is that "legitimate" sex partners or spouses may feel threatened by prostitution. Outlawing prostitution is a way for society to deal with sexual insecurity.

Another explanation may be the "puritan" theory. The fact that some people just cannot stand the fact that others have more fun than they do.

Of course, it is also well known that street prostitution is always pursued more aggressively by law enforcement. Apparently, that has to do with a true or imagined perception that prostitution decreases property values.

Economic Necessity
Some prostitutes do what they do as a way to make money on the side. It is not totally uncommon for highly attractive female college students to be in this business a few hours a week. They typically can afford to be very selective, and charge high prices. Besides for school, the money may be used for trips to Europe and other extra's.

More tragic are the women in low income situations, doing it out of pure economic necessity. Sometimes they are single mothers, who simply have not been able to find any other way to make it. Effectively, many of those women are risking their health and their lives.

This happens in a lot of places, from Cuba to India to Russia to Guatemala. But it has also been very clearly documented in many cities around the US.

These are extremely unfortunate situations. Even police officers are heartbroken when they see it. It is a situation that should make people think about policies in terms of criminalization, and about our welfare system.

Prostitution and the Bible
I would not go as far as saying that the Bible permits prostitution. But I would venture to say that the Bible is not very strongly against it. There are several instances where Jesus interacts with, and even defends prostitutes (typically called adulterous women). :eek3:

Jesus saved a prostitute who was about to be stoned. He defied the Pharisees ("When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.") and sent her off with a slap on the wrist. ("Go and sin no more.") I would not be too wrong by saying that Jesus had more sympathy for her than for the Pharisees.

Jesus may actually have intended to promote respect for a class of people that is essentially dedicated to serving, and gets nothing but disdain in return.
 
I guess people who have sex for Lust are WORSER than Prostitute who is
trying to earn money for a reason and helping men's sex frustration.

As long as Prostitutes are healthy.
 
Our God is a loving and forgiving God.
Jesus Christ is to us forgiveness of sins
He is the price that fully satisfies God's righteous requirement.
God cannot just forgive us our sins that will be injustice
It will mean unrighteousness!
But God is righteous
He has to pay for the price of our sin which neither gold, silver ,blood of animals can pay.

Oh hallelujah! God became a man in the likeness of the flesh of sin but not having the sin of the flesh. Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. In Whom we have redemption through His blood the forgiveness of offenses. Even when we were dead in our sins He made us alive together with Christ. What a blessing!

Imagine a little girl who comes to her mom for a piece of cake with a dirty and filthy hands and all messy. No proper parent will give the cake in that filthy situation. Even the little excited girl may not see her dirty condition
But every loving mother will make sure that little girl is clean before she get the cake. the washing of the filth is out of love for the child.

We should thank our heavenly Father if by His mercy and love He expose our sins. There is a blood that speaks vegeance the blood of Abel, but the blood of Jesus speaks forgiveness for us!

We must take the blood and call on the Lord.
In Whom we have redemption through His blood the forgiveness of sins

The enemy may accuse us daily but dear all, the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses from every sin.

Take the blood of Jesus and let God passover your sins.
Let the enemy be silenced by the blood of Jesus.
And they overcame him because of the blood of Lamb...
Amen
 
Fornication (meaning sex before marriage) is wrong in God's sight. If you have sex with someone before marriage, that means you are a pornographer -- Read Hebrews 12:4 -- Notice marriage is HONORABLE!!!! That is why sex is for marriage only. Gal 5:19 said fornication is one of the WORKS of flesh because verse 1 said the flesh lusts against the Spirit.

The Biblical Greek word for fornication and whoremongers is "pornos." You know a word, "porn." Fornication is a PORN debauchery. Sex before marriage IS porn !!!!

If you believe in sex before marriage, are you a pornographer? Fornicators and whoremonfgers are also pornographers. Hebrews 12:4 said they will be judged by God.

To break the virginity do nothing with divorce. The Bible said the divorcement is caused by hardening the heart AND trouble in life. 1 Cor 7:28.

High percent for divorce came from the fornication. High percent for divorce also came from around 18 ages because teenagers wanted to break their virginity too early -- immature!!! Many couples who were virgins got married and stayed together for many years until they decided to file for divorce.

Sex before marriage is not because of love, but because of the lust of the flesh that is of the devil!!!! (1 John 2:16) Sex before marriage is an insult to God because "porn" is sin.

On other word, "Playboy" magaizine is a pornographic magazine.

You think you are right as 100% from what you understand the interpretation as 100%???? No! You are NOT! I am NOT, too. No one knows the answers except only God! It's very, very difficult for everyone to understand the scriptures from the Bible...NO ONE has 100% understanding from the bible! For instance, I think the scripture of Exodus 4:11 means that God made me deaf on purpose but I can NOT say "it's 100% for sure". It's just that I hope I understand what it means to me but not 100% positive - just hopeful.

You can't judge me for that. I am NOT porn at all! I see different interpretation. You think you know all of the interpretations of the scriptures in the bible as 100% like you think you are right?? I don't think so! EVERYONE has different understandings about the scriptures. THEN, YOU and I have different interpretations of this scriptures. This is YOUR opinion and this is MY opinion.

By the way, my husband and I are STILL married and still MADLY IN LOVE with each other. We NEVER want to get divorced even though we already had sex before marriage. We've been together for almost 24 years! We have two beautiful teenager kids!!

I have a HUGEEEEEEEE faith in God.

Everyone in the world still doesn't know the REAL answers from the scriptures of the bible. For example, two ministers (same regilious) have different understandings of the scriptures.

MANY people that I know already had sex before marriageand they STILL are married for over 30 - 40 years and they're still healthy!

Sorry, I don't agree with you on this scripture about sex before marriage.

This scripture is from what I can understand very clearly that God does not want people to have too many sex with different people before marriage.

From what I understand that God allows man and woman who are in a very serious relationship (like one very special person) to have sex before marriage like me and my husband.

Sex with one very serious person (man and woman) before marriage is NOT lust! It's LOVE.

Again, I am NOT porn at all. You can NOT judge me! You may realize that you are still sin for calling me that remark. (pornography) -not nice of you to say that rude remark to me. Everyone has their own sins. No one is perfect including you.
 
sin?

Remember, we all are human who are not prefect. Why should anyone worry about "sin"?
 
Before I say anything further, this is not judgemental conversation here. Tru, all of us sin. Noone is perfect, but each of us are accountable whatever we do. Now, Baal is an idol which include sex activities which doesn't please God when God's people living in rebellion and compromise human views. Remember, King David worshipped the Lord in huge way, yet he sinned against God. King David knew he shouldn't do that, but he did till Nathan came to David and David was broken. Inspite of measure of our faith in God does not mean we don't sin, nowhere in the scripture guarantee us that. Greek goddess Diana was a sex goddess, of al kinds of sex, which include, not need to be married, or homosexuality or prostitute or beastality and etc. Paul rebuke christians for living in that lifestyle and there is enormous about what sexual purity is. There is not one church I know of approve any way of that. But, what I don't agree is this, if you do such thing, you are not a christian, that didn't say in the Bible. Paul did say don't call urself christians to do those thing does not mean you are not christians. If its true, then King David isn't God's chosen. It is black and white that sex should be in marriage alone. Yes, I agree, I can't make u stop or whatever. Do I do those things? Yes. Did I feel sometimes God approve me doing such? Yes. Does that mean God does? No. There's so much rationing trying to think God approve and thinking noone understand clearly, the fact is, its obvious. There's one I don't approve one person what he said and did to friend's of mi8ne daughter by saying, oh, I can't wed you bec you sinned against God by living together, bec that's what the Bible say. And he's the sameone totally against homsexual and God rejecting them. His teaching isn't God's way. True, living together is wrong, but refuse to wed them is wrong. God is a forgiven Lord, even Jesus has forgiven the woman who were a prostitute. That is the problem with living tooooo open minded and also passed judgements. And even the attitude, why worry about sin? Then the question go like this, why you have to teach children, parent has no right to, that's children decision. Its the samething. Pastors and followers of Christ suppose to minister others. No pastors, then all of us will be living far beyond sinful. Forgive one another and remember Jesus taught about how and what our responsiblity when ur bro or sis been caught in sin. Suppose to be confidential. Gossip, two face and backstabbing is as sinful.
 
When my teacher Mrs. Askew came to class, she was smiling.
And my classmate mentioned she must've had good sex with her husband...
And she blushed and giggled....

But me, when I had sex with someone I don't love, I don't feel good
afterward.... I was like ewwww that was disgusting.
I can't believe I slept with that guy.

Maybe if I had sex after marriage, I could communicate with the spouse....
tell each other what we want...

I guess that why there are divorces because spouses aren't
sexual satisfying each other because of lack of communication.
 
Sin is missing the mark that God has established.

All people have sinned.

All people can be forgiven their sins.

A person must first agree with God that he/she has committed the sin.

A person must feel sorry about committing that sin.

A person must want to turn away from (repent) committing sin.

Then the person can be cleansed of the penalty and guilt of sin. How? By accepting the blood that was shed on the cross by the perfect Son of God, Jesus Christ, as the satisfactory payment of the sin debt.

But if a person never confesses that sin is SIN, then a person can't be forgiven. Just because someone says, "I don't feel that my thought or action was sin" doesn't change the truth. Changing the name of a sin doesn't remove the sin. Comparing sins as "big" or "little" doesn't remove the penalty of sin.

God has clearly stated in the Bible which thoughts, actions, and lack of actions are sins. It doesn't matter whether or not we agree. We can't pick and choose sins. Sin is sin. God will judge. That is truth that no one can escape.

The very fact that some people feel it is necessary to justify their actions as not sin, proves that there is guilt inside that is eating away at the heart. If your action wasn't sin, why do you feel that you have to defend it? Think about that.

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If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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You think you are right as 100% from what you understand the interpretation as 100%???? No! You are NOT! I am NOT, too. No one knows the answers except only God! It's very, very difficult for everyone to understand the scriptures from the Bible...NO ONE has 100% understanding from the bible! For instance, I think the scripture of Exodus 4:11 means that God made me deaf on purpose but I can NOT say "it's 100% for sure". It's just that I hope I understand what it means to me but not 100% positive - just hopeful.

You can't judge me for that. I am NOT porn at all! I see different interpretation. You think you know all of the interpretations of the scriptures in the bible as 100% like you think you are right?? I don't think so! EVERYONE has different understandings about the scriptures. THEN, YOU and I have different interpretations of this scriptures. This is YOUR opinion and this is MY opinion.

By the way, my husband and I are STILL married and still MADLY IN LOVE with each other. We NEVER want to get divorced even though we already had sex before marriage. We've been together for almost 24 years! We have two beautiful teenager kids!!

I have a HUGEEEEEEEE faith in God.

Everyone in the world still doesn't know the REAL answers from the scriptures of the bible. For example, two ministers (same regilious) have different understandings of the scriptures.

MANY people that I know already had sex before marriageand they STILL are married for over 30 - 40 years and they're still healthy!

Sorry, I don't agree with you on this scripture about sex before marriage.

This scripture is from what I can understand very clearly that God does not want people to have too many sex with different people before marriage.

From what I understand that God allows man and woman who are in a very serious relationship (like one very special person) to have sex before marriage like me and my husband.

Sex with one very serious person (man and woman) before marriage is NOT lust! It's LOVE.

Again, I am NOT porn at all. You can NOT judge me! You may realize that you are still sin for calling me that remark. (pornography) -not nice of you to say that rude remark to me. Everyone has their own sins. No one is perfect including you.

FYI, I agree with Askjo. He was tellin' the truth about the scriptures. It's true that a fornication is sin. It's true that it is sin to have sex before marriage. No one can win that scriptures, because we sin against God.
 
Reba,

Sure, everyone is sinned including myself. Of course!

What I am talking about is that I understand what this scripture seems to be clear to me about no sex before marriage. What this scripture means that God does not want people to have people to have too many sexes with so many people before marriage like (hop, hop, hop with so many different people). That's wrong. That's sin.

God allows people to have sex before marriage only if you have a very serious relationship with ONE person before marriage like me and my husband. That is NOT sin.

This is what I UNDERSTAND this interpretation.

Sure, I still am sinned because I was swearing, lying even though I didn't use swearing very much. I did lie when I was very young like teenager even though I didn't lie very much. It's like rare for me to lie and swearing. I still am sinned, anyway.

Momoftwo
 
It's true that a fornication is sin. It's true that it is sin to have sex before marriage. No one can win that scriptures, because we sin against God.

That's your belief. God was talking about having too many sexes with many people before marriage. This is what I understand.
 
Sin is missing the mark that God has established.

All people have sinned.

All people can be forgiven their sins.

A person must first agree with God that he/she has committed the sin.

A person must feel sorry about committing that sin.

A person must want to turn away from (repent) committing sin.

Then the person can be cleansed of the penalty and guilt of sin. How? By accepting the blood that was shed on the cross by the perfect Son of God, Jesus Christ, as the satisfactory payment of the sin debt.

But if a person never confesses that sin is SIN, then a person can't be forgiven. Just because someone says, "I don't feel that my thought or action was sin" doesn't change the truth. Changing the name of a sin doesn't remove the sin. Comparing sins as "big" or "little" doesn't remove the penalty of sin.

God has clearly stated in the Bible which thoughts, actions, and lack of actions are sins. It doesn't matter whether or not we agree. We can't pick and choose sins. Sin is sin. God will judge. That is truth that no one can escape.

The very fact that some people feel it is necessary to justify their actions as not sin, proves that there is guilt inside that is eating away at the heart. If your action wasn't sin, why do you feel that you have to defend it? Think about that.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]I John 1[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]
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If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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Well said.
 
FYI, I agree with Askjo. He was tellin' the truth about the scriptures. It's true that a fornication is sin. It's true that it is sin to have sex before marriage. No one can win that scriptures, because we sin against God.

Not everyone want to be married, how do they release sex hormones if they are not allowed to have sex? If I was to stay virgin and never been married, I would have still get those wet dreams and release sex energy in my sleep because my body need to release it. It is sin against God if I fight against my body by release it. It brings my body down with different kind of disease. Having disease in our body is sinning against God.
 
...What I am talking about is that I understand what this scripture seems to be clear to me about no sex before marriage. What this scripture means that God does not want people to have people to have too many sexes with so many people before marriage like (hop, hop, hop with so many different people). That's wrong. That's sin.
God commanded that sex before marriage is wrong, period. Even sex with just one person before marriage is sin. God said that fornication is a sin. Period.

God allows people to have sex before marriage only if you have a very serious relationship with ONE person before marriage like me and my husband. That is NOT sin.
No, God does not "allow" sex before marriage. It is a sin no matter who it is. Check your Bible. There are no verses that says God allows sex before marriage.

Sex before marriage is a sin. That's bad. The good news is, God can forgive sin, if the person confesses that is sin, and truly wants to turn away from that sin.

I John 1
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


This is what I UNDERSTAND this interpretation.
Interpretation of what verses?

Sure, I still am sinned because I was swearing, lying even though I didn't use swearing very much. I did lie when I was very young like teenager even though I didn't lie very much. It's like rare for me to lie and swearing. I still am sinned, anyway.
One sin is equal to a million sins. It doesn't matter. All sin is guilty. We have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
 
That's your belief. God was talking about having too many sexes with many people before marriage. This is what I understand.
I'm sorry but you misunderstand. Which verses are you using? Maybe we can help you with the interpretation.

God condemns ALL sexual relations before marriage. I hope that is clear.

I Corinthians 6
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
 
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