Self-Esteem vs low self-esteem

[Liebling:-)))]

Cheri,

I read your post. Yes, I know what this thread is all about. But, that word itself "Self-Esteem" is somethin' that I don't believe in. It has a different meanin'. I believe in "Christ-Esteem". That's MY belief. That's all there is to it.

Philippines 2:3
"[doing] nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself;...."

Christ-Esteem?

 

[Maria]

Oh God.....

I don't think you understand what self-esteem means....

Yes, I DO know what self-esteem means. It has 2 different meanings. One is what Lieblin' have described and the other one is what I have described. Remember, each person's perceptive/POV/opinion is different from each other. Keep that in mind, Angel......

Santa wants people to have low self-esteems means negitive, do bad things in their lives....God wants people to have good self-esteems to love yourself and to love others and to love HIM, to do good and postive things in your life....

There are two different self-esteems meanings...If you say you don't believe in self-esteems that means you don't have no self-esteems as you don't love yourself, love others or love God etc...

Oh, yes I DO love others and God as myself. I am talkin' about MY belief. I am NOT talkin' about YOUR belief. You DO what you believe which IS fine by me. I have no problem with that.

Self-esteems means the kind of identity comes from knowing whom you belong to, that you are safe, that you are loved, that you matter....The more of the real thing you have, the less you think about how good you are... God wants everyone to have a good and postive self-esteems not highly, low or negitive self-esteem....

Well, that's YOUR opinion to definite the means of what "self-esteem" means to YOU.

I gave up, I'm tired of debates about this, it's getting to the point of nowhere....I respect for those of you for what you believe, but don't tell us we are wrong for what we believe....I know in my heart that God wants people to have postive self-essteem, to love themselves, to love their children , to love others and to love HIM!!....That's all I'm going to say .....

Btw, great thread Liebling, I'm sorry that I'm not going to debates anymore to this, it not worth it, and I'm tired too heh....

You guys have a good week... be nice to eachothers!!!

You have a good week, too. Take care of yourself.

 

[Cheri]

Oh, yes I DO love others and God as myself.

You calling yourself "God"? You sure aren't my God. Jesus is my God.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Ok, Lieblin' ....

What's YOUR definition of Self-Esteem ?

I know long time that I have postive self-esteem because my self-esteem was being improve from low self-esteem in the past. I thank therapy, school & counsellor to positive my self-esteem but all of that I still want to find out who I really am... I took self-esteem test.

Here is my test.

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[Maria]

You calling yourself "God"? You sure aren't my God. Jesus is my God.

No I mean I do love myself as well..... sorry for not explainin' clear. Thanks.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Liebling,

My score is 92%. Extremely well!! What is 8% that needs to improve?
It's my SHY! I know why because I interact with hearing people all the times. But I am not shy when I am with deaf people and people who know sign language. I was nervous when I interacted with hearing people because of my speech skills and I read their lips so that makes me not relax. It's hard though!

It's interesting. But remember that this is not 100% accurate.
But it's interesting though.

Thank you.

Momoftwo

I check with tests myself but the questions about our feeling are accurate. I answer my tests what kind of feeling I have. wow, your self-esteem is better than my self-esteem...

 

[Cheri]

No I mean I do love myself as well..... sorry for not explainin' clear. Thanks.

That's much better.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

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your score = 75

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me and high self-esteem

 

[Momoftwo]

Hi Liebling

88% is very good. You have very confident in yourself. Yes, I am very confident in myself. Oh sure, I get bad mood due to hormones or very tired because of my child being sick at night or big events.

Really, my parents told me that I was always very good girl and very confident all the times EXCEPT so shy when communicating with hearing people and I still do but much better than before and I got used to it.

I told my siblings about what the counselor who said calling me "low self-esteem". They said, "what? NO!!!! That's not you!"....They said, "You are just so frustrated for trying to get the truth from God because you are deaf and you never learned about God so this is why it affected you frustrated and angry." It was a very short period of time. Until I got it about God and I'm back to normal because this is what I really needed to know and hear from God and bible. I MUST demand to know why this meaningful life is all about. During my very short period time of difficult situation with my mother's death and struggle to get the truth from God was tough!! I am SO BLESSED that I worked very very hard to be very patient and fought for getting the truth. Now, I'm very happy. So, that is different and it has to do nothing with low self-esteem because that's not who I am.

Oh your subject about self-esteem was very interesting as to what we want to know what it is really meaning. CyberRed provided the scriptures about esteem and I looked at my bible and I understood and I agree with her. It's no favors because I am on her side. No....it is just what the bible said. That's why I hestiated myself after what the counselor said about me being low self-esteem. It must be separate - totally different. It's so hard to explain. CyberRed just explained it recently which was so crisp clear and powerful.

Thanks, Liebling that I enjoyed reading your posts.

Momotwo

 

[Audiofuzzy]

I guess I am a stuck-up

Results of your Self-Esteem Test


your score = 93


What does your score mean?
According to this test, you have very high self-esteem. You recognize your inner value and it shows in your personal life, relationships and career/school success.

I hope I don't get on anybodys nerves

Fuzzy

 

[mlkshkgrl]

Results of your Self-Esteem Test


your score = 36


What does your score mean?
This likely comes as no surprise to you, but you have relatively low self-esteem. Your answers on the test showed a lot of doubt about your own abilities, lack of self-love and some attitudes and beliefs that are contributing to your confidence problem.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Hi Liebling

88% is very good. You have very confident in yourself. Yes, I am very confident in myself.

Thanks, Liebling that I enjoyed reading your posts.

Momotwo

Welcome

Thank you and I know for long time that I have good self-esteem before I made a te st today. wow I didnt know that I has high self-esteem... It make me feel proud.

 

[Reba]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, you're saying that some people develope good self esteem in the wrong way meaning being more powerful than God?....

People with high "self-esteem" are not more powerful than God. They don't trust God for their strength and support. They don't depend on God. They don't care about other people. They just focus on themselves. They don't thank and praise God for His blessings. They thank and praise themselves. They brag "I did everything for myself." They just live for their own satisfaction.

It is important that children develop their self esteem in a good way, and I see nothing wrong with that, I still don't get it when you said U don't believe in self esteem....

Self-esteem is a philosophy without God. I believe in God. I trust God to save me, take care of me, and lead me. I don't trust my own self-esteem to do those things.

And I don't see any different between philosophy and Bible when it comes to talking about self esteem....

Here is the difference:
The unsaved world trusts human abilities and self-esteem for a successful life.
Saved Christians trust Jesus' strength and grace for a successful life.

Philippians 4:13 "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

Self-esteem leaves out "through Christ".

 

[Cheri]

People with high "self-esteem" are not more powerful than God. They don't trust God for their strength and support. They don't depend on God. They don't care about other people. They just focus on themselves. They don't thank and praise God for His blessings. They thank and praise themselves. They brag "I did everything for myself." They just live for their own satisfaction..

Do not speak for all of us those who have high self-esteem. That's what you think. So, You're saying Liebling/or Mofo is so self-center doesn't think about others and doesn't thanked God for anything? Since she has really good self-esteem which can be high. I wouldn't say that about people. When people who have low-self-esteem, It's up to them to change to be a better person, God cannot do that for us, We (us) have to change our attitude, God doesn't like it when people are bitter, God doesn't like it when people who doesn't think about others helping others. We have to do that on our own to show God we are good people that we have hearts. I have not seen one person brag about their own satisfaction, I've seen people proud that they change to become a better person to lead a positive life, Isn't that what God wants us to do? Those who have bitter hearts are the people, doesn't care about others, always angry at the world is what Satan likes. Thanks for your time in reading this. Have a good day now.

 

[Reba]

... to have a good self-esteem meaning to love yourself and to love others, to do things in your life that is more postive than negitive....

God never says "love yourself" or "love thyself". That is why I say that the self-esteem philosophy is not biblical.

God says, love the Lord, love your neighbor, love the brethren, husbands love your wives, etc.

 

[Momoftwo]

Do not speak for all of us those who have high self-esteem. That's what you think. So, You're saying Liebling/or Mofo is so self-center doesn't think about others and doesn't thanked God for anything? Since she has really good self-esteem which can be high. I wouldn't say that about people. When people who have low-self-esteem, It's up to them to change to be a better person, God cannot do that for us, We (us) have to change our attitude, God doesn't like it when people are bitter, God doesn't like it when people who doesn't think about others helping others. We have to do that on our own to show God we are good people that we have hearts. I have not seen one person brag about their own satisfaction, I've seen people proud that they change to become a better person to lead a positive life, Isn't that what God wants us to do? Those who have bitter hearts are the people, doesn't care about others, always angry at the world is what Satan likes. Thanks for your time in reading this. Have a good day now.

Cheri

Yes, you are right. I can't help it that I just happen to have good self-esteem. I am humble and plain and simple. When someone who is very friendly, he/she will give good exposure to others. Like if someone who swears a lot to the person, it is a bad influence and it can affect to that person to use more swearings. I hate swearings!! But I admit that I did swear when I was so angry when someone was VERY RUDE to me and I said the bad word to myself - not swearing to other person or people. After a little while, I felt guilty for swearing and I prayed to God, "I'm sorry for my swearing". I know I am not perfect. Of course, everyone has sins.

Momoftwo

 

[Maria]

Do not speak for all of us those who have high self-esteem. That's what you think. So, You're saying Liebling/or Mofo is so self-center doesn't think about others and doesn't thanked God for anything? Since she has really good self-esteem which can be high. I wouldn't say that about people. When people who have low-self-esteem, It's up to them to change to be a better person, God cannot do that for us, We (us) have to change our attitude, God doesn't like it when people are bitter, God doesn't like it when people who doesn't think about others helping others. We have to do that on our own to show God we are good people that we have hearts. I have not seen one person brag about their own satisfaction, I've seen people proud that they change to become a better person to lead a positive life, Isn't that what God wants us to do? Those who have bitter hearts are the people, doesn't care about others, always angry at the world is what Satan likes. Thanks for your time in reading this. Have a good day now.

It's NOT what Reba think. It's what she KNOWS through the scriptures...just like me. I know what she means. She is talkin' about people who likes to THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES instead of focusin' on God to grow spiritually.
Once a person accept Jesus Christ, this person will become a NEW person and the "old" self is gone. He TRANSFORMED this person to become His Image..HIS likeness from the inside. A brand new person through readin' the bible, prayin' daily and havin' a fellowship with brothers and sisters at church and so forth. When that happens, this person will BECOME more humble and have HUMILITY in heart with HIM. More meek and sincere.
God favors this person who is more humble rather than the person who is self-esteem ( to think about himself/herself rather than think about Jesus to rely on ).

James 4:10
"Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall exalt you."

That's what Reba means. I am here to explain. Don't hit me with your bat. lol !

 

[Reba]

...There are some people out there who has low self-esteem which some had abortion, drop-out of school, teen pregnancy to rape, robbery, and poverty can be solved if only we help people to esteem themselves more highly to love themselves more and more and to realize their great self-worth...

Each and every person has great worth to God. Each person is so valuable to God that He sacrificied His Son for each one of us. THAT is the reason each person is valuable. People don't need to "love" themselves. They just need to love God, and He will provide them confidence to overcome their problems. Loving themselves won't solve anything.

The Bible tells us: "Let each esteem others better than themselves" (Philippians 2:3)...

Right. We are supposed to esteem (honor) other people, not ourselves.

“When Jesus was asked what the greatest moral commandment was, he replied by quoting two commands from the Old Testament. "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbour as yourself'" (Matthew 22:37-39). ..

Right. God says to love the Lord, and to love your neighbor. God does NOT command us to love ourselves.

 

[Maria]

God never says "love yourself" or "love thyself". That is why I say that the self-esteem philosophy is not biblical.

God says, love the Lord, love your neighbor, love the brethren, husbands love your wives, etc.

That's thinkin' of OTHERS, yes. Exactly.

*****
Cheri,

Love thyself is what I was tryin' to remember - Reba said it already. It's not correct to love myself. My mistake. I mean "love thyself". I apologized.

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Results of your Self-Esteem Test

Ruler
your score = 60 Your score


What does your score mean?

According to this test, you have a reasonably high level of self-esteem. There is, however, still some room for improvement.

Would you like to learn more about yourself and your self-esteem? Self-esteem is more than just an overall number; it stems from many personality traits, habits and attitudes. The complete results for this test provide you with 8 subscores. For example, you had 35 on the feelings of inadequacy subscore. Find out what this means and how you did in the other sections right away, simply by ordering the full test results. As an added bonus, your results will be saved in your very own Profile for future reference. You can then continue to explore our vast battery of professionally developed career, personality, IQ, relationship and health tests … all of them available in My Profile!