Science or Spirituality...You Choose:

deafskeptic said:
Not many people know this but Campbell was also an atheist.
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and I hate to add this, though I'm not sure I agree (at least I hope I am wrong), but Campbell is said to have been an anti-semite. those allegations might stem from Campbell haters because I have never read anything remotely Antisemitism in his books and I own and read plenty of them.
 
AlleyCat said:
All I think at the moment is that another troll is on the prowl. Discussing stuff that's so controversial it eventually gets people banned? blah, blah, blah....
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so you must be closed-minded to be a member here at AD? You have to be spiritually inclined to be a member of AD? That's absurd. So it's all about politics at AD right? I think AD is better than that. I think that cersorship is what should be banned. Give me a break. I have to conform to the majority to win the honor of not being called a troll.
 
Bebonang said:
That is the reason why hearing people keep saying to us that we need to hear sounds and have us learn to listen when we could not hear or pick up the words very well. Like the CI forum, hearing people insist that we can listen if we use the CIs. You know perfectly well that CIs is just a devices to make hearing more better or a little bit more clearer than hearing aids. Still hearing people want us to be in the mainstream oral-only without any ASL interpreters. Hearing sounds does not count for us as being Deaf and Hard of Hearing. That is why I was upset about the whole thing the hearing parents and other people hoping to have their deaf children to hear normal with CI. To me, sounds is not a big deal. We only hear the environment sounds but not clearly.

So why are you making a big deal about sounds? Accept us as we are and not try to "fix" deaf children.

As for me, I am more of both - science and spiritual.
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You did not read all the posts. I was confronting a comment that hearing do not debate science and spirituality peacefully. I was pointing out that the only thing I could say is that they have better hearing. Anything else is prejudicial. If I said deaf people were not as peaceful at debating science and spirituality, would you find it judgmental?

I do not have an opinion on what people choose to do with themselves. If you are for or against CI for yourself, that is all I care about. If you try to tell me what I should do, I will never agree. I am never going to enter the "should a child be implanted" debate because I don't care to debate it.

In addition, I am not gonna sit here and tell you that deafs are better than hearies, nor will I say hearies are better than deafs. There are many that will disagree. *shrugs*
 
if there is one thing that really burns me up is when I get threatened. Why do that? Malice?? I haven't been that low to you or anyone here have I. DO NOT DO THAT AGAIN PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP. It's not nice.
 
AquaBlue said:
so you must be closed-minded to be a member here at AD? You have to be spiritually inclined to be a member of AD? That's absurd. So it's all about politics at AD right? I think AD is better than that. I think that cersorship is what should be banned. Give me a break. I have to conform to the majority to win the honor of not being called a troll.
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Anything to do with religion is a no no here at AD because most threads regarding this subject tend to end up in flames. We're no better than the hearing about stuff like this.
 
AquaBlue said:
and I hate to add this, though I'm not sure I agree (at least I hope I am wrong), but Campbell is said to have been an anti-semite. those allegations might stem from Campbell haters because I have never read anything remotely Antisemitism in his books and I own and read plenty of them.
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I've never heard that about him and I hope you're wrong too.
 
that is truly sad my friend. so are to remain under the radar and allow the godly to rule AD. That's just not right. Maybe god is that way too. I do not know...I mean...the folks causing the true issues here are believers in god...followers of christ, right? I can learn much about god by just reading the writing of those believers here at AD.
 
AquaBlue said:
so you must be closed-minded to be a member here at AD? You have to be spiritually inclined to be a member of AD? That's absurd. So it's all about politics at AD right? I think AD is better than that. I think that cersorship is what should be banned. Give me a break. I have to conform to the majority to win the honor of not being called a troll.
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Well, you were the same guy, were you not, who started a thread "FOR HEARIES ONLY" on a DEAF forum. Nothing about spiritually inclined. Nothing about censorship. Kind of odd, I must say ..
 
AquaBlue said:
did you know that Albert Einstein was an atheist. He didn't believe in god. How are your knees now? Go read a Joseph Campbell book and learn about myth. then compare notes when reading your bible.
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I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)
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wrong again .... :roll:


A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)
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Albert Einstein firmly denied atheism.


"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." (Albert Einstein)
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My knees are fine, how bout them apples?
 
Tousi said:
Threatened? Where?
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she hinted her objection by subtly declaring that I should be banned if I continue expressing my angle. Read her words again. a threat.

if you are going to ban me, then do it...but don't threaten me that you will if I don't zip it.
 
AquaBlue said:
that is truly sad my friend. so are to remain under the radar and allow the godly to rule AD. That's just not right. Maybe god is that way too. I do not know...I mean...the folks causing the true issues here are believers in god...followers of christ, right? I can learn much about god by just reading the writing of those believers here at AD.
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Another blanket statement about a group that does things less well than another????? I should have stayed away. I will leave you with these thoughts...

Two things:
Mom saw the bright light before she passed.
Atheists, when they die, know what happens next for them....nothing.
 
AquaBlue said:
Are you going to make me extract all the quotes he made against his belief in god. Come on now. He was a true blue atheist.
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Well, are you still going to tell me this is not a religious thread? Maybe it was a thread for you to show off your atheism. Good luck with that. :giggle:
 
it's late and i am tired. you look it up. i hope that you are humble enough to post your findings.
 
here is one I found that can bridge the gap between us:

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

- Albert Einstein
 
I would truly not want to end this thread on a I'm right and You're Wrong note. Maybe we should just say, To each His/Her Own...Love and Peace...Don't Worry Be Happy.
 
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