Questions and debates about blindness:

...and by the way nika, excuse me for not being as knowledgeable as you are about 1,000,000,000,000 medical conditions. :mad2:
 
typeingtornado19 said:
No, it does not happen in the general community. Why cant everyone just treat blind people like normal people? Sure we do things different sometimes, but other than that we are just the same.
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I don't know what to say to the bolded statement "Why cant everyone just treat blind people like normal people?" Most of us deaf people feel the same way. Just because some have to write or sign in order to communicate, we're no different than anyone else, other than that we can't hear. I do speak quite well now and get along really well in the hearing community, yet I do seem to "stand out" from everyone that is hearing. I think it is just ignorance for the most part.
 
faire_jour said:
Can you tell me about the options? If I had a blind child born tomorrow, what would the doctors tell me and what would the Blind community say?
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It really depends on you and the child, if you want, you could send them to a school for the blind, and they would get an *ok* education, or mainstream them, and risk not getting the braille/cane training they need, and risk stupid teachers not knowing how to help them, not getting large print/braille books at the same time as peers, thus an unequal playing field. Also a lot of blind mainstreamed people feel like they dont belong. It is between you, the child, and the school district.
 
jillio said:
Maybe people don't like getting whopped in the shin by a cane. I'm not trying to be funny. Just explaining to you that people might be moving for completely different reasons other than the fact that they are afraid of blind people.
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Sorry, most of us dont *wack* it is not intentional.
 
AlleyCat said:
I don't know what to say to the bolded statement "Why cant everyone just treat blind people like normal people?" Most of us deaf people feel the same way. Just because some have to write or sign in order to communicate, we're no different than anyone else, other than that we can't hear. I do speak quite well now and get along really well in the hearing community, yet I do seem to "stand out" from everyone that is hearing. I think it is just ignorance for the most part.
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I agree, i just want to be treated like any other individual, sure, i am blind, but that is not the main thing about me.
 
typeingtornado19 said:
It really depends on you and the child, if you want, you could send them to a school for the blind, and they would get an *ok* education, or mainstream them, and risk not getting the braille/cane training they need, and risk stupid teachers not knowing how to help them, not getting large print/braille books at the same time as peers, thus an unequal playing field. Also a lot of blind mainstreamed people feel like they dont belong. It is between you, the child, and the school district.
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Braille and cane training? That is so interesting.

What would you do if you had a blind child?
 
typeingtornado19 said:
Sorry, most of us dont *wack* it is not intentional.
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I did not mean to imply that it was intentional, nor that anyone "wacked". I was saying that might be what sighted people are intending to avoid. If you want them to understand your perspective, you must try to understand theirs, as well. Part of that is not making assumptions about why they do what they do, such as moving because they are afraid.
 
Hear Again said:
*sigh* nika, could you *please* talk in plain english? :mad2:
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Okay there are six muscles that turn the eyeballs. The lateral and medial recti turn the eye inwards/outwards. The superior and inferior recti turn the eyeball up/down. And the superior and inferior oblique muscles tilt the eyeball inwards/outwards. The oblique muscles are called that because they pull on the eyeball at 51 degree angle, which means they are NOT diametrically opposite of the other four muscles. That's why it's possible to have the eyeballs wandering outwards (Exotropia) and tilting inwards (Incyclophoria).
 
faire_jour said:
Braille and cane training? That is so interesting.

What would you do if you had a blind child?
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I would put them in public school, but be *very* involved to make sure they got what they needed, i would ride teachers to get my kid what he/she needed to succeed, but i would make sure my child had a good network of other blind children, because i have found it makes life a lot easier.
 
actually, the lateral recti turns the eye outward while the medial recti turns the eye inward. you reversed the two. just thought i'd point that out in case anyone was confused.
 
jillio said:
I did not mean to imply that it was intentional, nor that anyone "wacked". I was saying that might be what sighted people are intending to avoid. If you want them to understand your perspective, you must try to understand theirs, as well. Part of that is not making assumptions about why they do what they do, such as moving because they are afraid.
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I understand how it feels to be hit by a cane, I have been hit many times. But i would still not make a big circle, hearing/sighted people dont do it, they get right up close... *not saying i like that either*.
 
Nika said:
Okay there are six muscles that turn the eyeballs. The lateral and medial recti turn the eye inwards/outwards. The superior and inferior recti turn the eyeball up/down. And the superior and inferior oblique muscles tilt the eyeball inwards/outwards. The oblique muscles are called that because they pull on the eyeball at 51 degree angle, which means they are NOT diametrically opposite of the other four muscles. That's why it's possible to have the eyeballs wandering outwards (Exotropia) and tilting inwards (Incyclophoria).
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Oh, I see now where the confusion is. Diametrically opposite, and diametrically opposed are two different things!
 
typeingtornado19 said:
I understand how it feels to be hit by a cane, I have been hit many times. But i would still not make a big circle, hearing/sighted people dont do it, they get right up close... *not saying i like that either*.
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How would you know if it was a hearing sighted person, or a deaf sighted person? Just curious.
 
Hear Again said:
actually, the lateral recti turns the eye outward while the medial recti turns the eye inward. you reversed the two. just thought i'd point that out in case anyone was confused.
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Whoops, sorry. Thanks for the correction.

See you do know your medical stuff. <has faith in you>
 
typeingtornado19 said:
I understand how it feels to be hit by a cane, I have been hit many times. But i would still not make a big circle, hearing/sighted people dont do it, they get right up close... *not saying i like that either*.
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They (hearing/sighted people) get right up close to you? I am sighted, so does that include me? (Yet, you said deaf people make 3 foot circles around you.) So I must be somewhere in the middle. Not trying to be sarcastic here, but I think there's an element here that we're not understanding yet.
 
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