Questions and debates about blindness:

even the idea of light perception scares people. heck, legal blindness scares them.
 
Hear Again said:
forgive me for saying this (you can blame my 11th grade honors english teacher), but the words "totally completely blind" is an oxymoron. the correct phrasing should be "totally blind" or "completely blind." <running away from nika>
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I was using the double adjectives for emphasis. Sometimes when I say "totally blind" or "completely blind" people don't know that I really mean blind, e.g. trying-to-see-out-of-the-palm-of-your-hand blind. But that is what I mean. <smile>

Wouldn't that technically be redundancy? <wink>
 
Nika said:
I actually wouldn't totally mind losing the rest of my vision. When my eyes are tired and hurting I just close them and do everything audio/tactile.

I think the biggest challenges would be learning O&M skills with zero vision and working on my braille skills. But I know that if I want to do something I can.

I don't fear total blindness, because in the orphanage I was functionally blind (even though I had light perception we stayed indoors all the time so there was little change in light levels). Plus between my glaucoma pain, my joint pain, my migraines, and sometimes my muscular pain, it would be nice to get rid of one of the sources of pain. <sardonic laughter>
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some opthalmologists consider those who have light perception as totally blind.
 
Nika said:
I was using the double adjectives for emphasis. Sometimes when I say "totally blind" or "completely blind" people don't know that I really mean blind, e.g. trying-to-see-out-of-the-palm-of-your-hand blind. But that is what I mean. <smile>

Wouldn't that technically be redundancy? <wink>
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they don't? i would think that the words "totally" or "completely" would be self-explanatory. hmmm. whenever i've called myself "totally blind" or "completely blind" no one has ever questioned whether or not i could see.
 
Hear Again said:
they don't? i would think that the words "totally" or "completely" would be self-explanatory. hmmm. whenever i've called myself "totally blind" or "completely blind" no one has ever questioned whether or not i could see.
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I guess I've just come across some thick people. <laughs>
 
Hear Again said:
some opthalmologists consider those who have light perception as totally blind.
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Oh wow, didn't know that. My eye doctors always emphasized each level of blindness. No Light Perception, Light Perception, Light Projection, Movement, Number of Fingers...
 
Nika said:
Oh wow, didn't know that. My eye doctors always emphasized each level of blindness. No Light Perception, Light Perception, Light Projection, Movement, Number of Fingers...
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light projection? what's that? also what is "number of fingers?" i always thought that was denoted as "counts fingers." there's also "hand motion" as a visual category as well.
 
what is "movement?" i always thought that was categorized as "light perception with shadows" or "hand motion."
 
Hear Again said:
light projection? what's that? also what is "number of fingers?" i always thought that was denoted as "counts fingers." there's also "hand motion" as a visual category as well.
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Light Projection means that you can determine the direction of light. And you're right it is "counts fingers." I was blanking and couldn't remember. Yes that too, I forgot about the hand motion one. They're too many categories to keep track of! <cloud of confusion>
 
i thought being able to determine the direction of light was categorized as "light perception - can determine direction of light." that must differ from one opthalmologist to another. the same is true for nlp. all of my opthalmologists have called me totally blind. then again, i've never seen any of my eye charts, so who knows? they could have listed me as nlp.
 
It seems like there are several terms for each level, or slightly different categorization systems. After all, ophthalmologists are excellent at disagreeing with each other. <laughs>

I don't know what they would have categorized me in the orphanage as because I didn't get any sort of eye care until a year after being adopted. But I do know I was LP because my orphanage memories are very detailed. I just remember things as light or dark or sort of in between.
 
If you have absolutely no incoming visual information, Hear Again, then I'm pretty sure you're charted as NLP.
 
if you don't mind my asking, what years were you in the orphanage? i'm really surprised the staff didn't take you to see an opthalmologist since you had lp.
 
Nika said:
If you have absolutely no incoming visual information, Hear Again, then I'm pretty sure you're charted as NLP.
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i don't. i'm as blind as they come. blind as a bat, if you pardon the expression. smile.
 
let's see (no pun intended) if i can think of the various categorizations for vision:

20/20 - normal vision
20/70 - visually impaired/low vision
20/200 - legally blind
cf - counts fingers
hm - hand motion
shadows - shadow perception
lp with shadows - light perception with shadows
lp with direction - light perception; able to tell direction of light
lp - light perception without light direction
nlp - no light perception; totally blind
 
Hear Again said:
if you don't mind my asking, what years were you in the orphanage? i'm really surprised the staff didn't take you to see an opthalmologist since you had lp.
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They didn't exactly have the concept of medical care down in the orphanage. When I went back to visit, almost all the orphans had some neglected medical problem. The hygiene conditions were far from ideal. I was in the orphanage from age 1 to 3. If you want more details I'm happy to answer in PM.
 
nika,

what years were you aged 1-3? (you can answer me in pm or not if you wish.)
 
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