Parants of CI children.

Which statements are true for you?

  • I want my child to hear

    Votes: 9 40.9%

  • I was advised to have a CI for my child

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • I want a CI to be included in a full tool box aproach

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • My child knew sign language before CI.

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • My child is only just learning sign language after CI.

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • I don't feel my child needs sign language at all.

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • My child uses cued speach with CI

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • My Child is in AVT for speech therapy

    Votes: 5 22.7%

  • If my child decided to stop using their CI I'd let them.

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • If I had had to fund the CI myself I would have still gone ahead

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • My child is in mainstream school

    Votes: 11 50.0%

  • My child is in deaf school

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • I am happy with results of CI

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • I am disapointed with the results of CI

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Speech is most important for my child.

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Literacy is most important for my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • Communication through any means is most important.

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • I think I made the right decision to implant my child

    Votes: 8 36.4%

  • I regret having implanted my child.

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Other. (please state)

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • Total voters
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I'm talking about giving them speech lessons once or twice a week.
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Well I think early on, kids should have speech lessons daily. Then after, they should "play it by ear as to frequncy of speech lessons.
That is your opinion and you are entltiled to it. Personally I disagree with you. What on Gods' green earth is wrong with focusing on your family? I don't know about you by my family comes first.
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Nothing's wrong with focusing on your family. However Focus on the Family is a VERY right-wing organization that is extremely inflamatory towards other ways on how to raise a kid.
 
deafdyke said:
Well I think early on, kids should have speech lessons daily. Then after, they should "play it by ear as to frequncy of speech lessons.
Nothing's wrong with focusing on your family. However Focus on the Family is a VERY right-wing organization that is extremely inflamatory towards other ways on how to raise a kid.
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Are you saying there is an organization that is called Focus on the Family? If so can you provide me with any further information so I can look into so I can be informed before I share any opinions. Do they have a website etc?
 
Thanks Jill. I see It's religious. I'm not sure how that applies to post 364. Maybe it's just me but I don't see the connection.
 
I meant that AG Bell and FotF have very conservative attitudes towards raising kids.....basicly " our way is the ONLY right way....and our way is to worship the traditional "family values" family model as THE PERFECT UTOPIA, even if evidence indicates that the family values model can be dysfunctional.
 
deafdyke said:
I meant that AG Bell and FotF have very conservative attitudes towards raising kids.....basicly " our way is the ONLY right way....and our way is to worship the traditional "family values" family model as THE PERFECT UTOPIA, even if evidence indicates that the family values model can be dysfunctional.
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I think the whole AGBell movement is very very stupid.
 
rockdrummer said:
Thanks Jill. I see It's religious. I'm not sure how that applies to post 364. Maybe it's just me but I don't see the connection.
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Not a problem. I didn't really see the connection, either, but thought I'd give you the link anyway.
 
deafdyke said:
I meant that AG Bell and FotF have very conservative attitudes towards raising kids.....basicly " our way is the ONLY right way....and our way is to worship the traditional "family values" family model as THE PERFECT UTOPIA, even if evidence indicates that the family values model can be dysfunctional.
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:ty: for clarifying DD.
 
jillo, do you see how I see it? I mean I'm more of a sociologist then you are....but AG Bad is very anti-res schools and very "pro family"
Like they think that the FAMILY is some sacransact insitution that shouldn't be messed with at ALL. FoF ALSO really idealizes the concept of "family values" (read conservative ubertraditional family values)
 
rockdrummer said:
Thanks Jill. I see It's religious. I'm not sure how that applies to post 364. Maybe it's just me but I don't see the connection.
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The connection is that Focus on Family and this text share the same values and is mostly about the same thing, extremism.

For example this statement is a bit on the extreme edge.

"When making the decision to choose the cochlear implant, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that parents are not making well informed, reasoned, and rational decisions that are in the best interests of their children. To intrude into the parents' decision-making process without such evidence, is unwarranted, unjustified, and unethical......."

First, there does exits evidence that most parents are not making fully reasoned and rational decisions that are in the best of their children regarding the use of CI. Findings shows a large gap between degree of success when looking at qualitative versus quantitative data. Parents and teachers in mainstream schools often have different views on how well a child is doing socially and academically.

Second, the threat that it's "unwarranted, unjustified, and unethical" to "intrude", even if there exists scientifical evidence of the oposite, is similar to the many statements from extreme organizations. Isn't it a bit telling that pro-CI'ers resort to this technique?
 
deafdyke said:
jillo, do you see how I see it? I mean I'm more of a sociologist then you are....but AG Bad is very anti-res schools and very "pro family"
Like they think that the FAMILY is some sacransact insitution that shouldn't be messed with at ALL. FoF ALSO really idealizes the concept of "family values" (read conservative ubertraditional family values)
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You are indeed seeing through the arguments, and into the core of AG Bell.
 
deafdyke said:
jillo, do you see how I see it? I mean I'm more of a sociologist then you are....but AG Bad is very anti-res schools and very "pro family"
Like they think that the FAMILY is some sacransact insitution that shouldn't be messed with at ALL. FoF ALSO really idealizes the concept of "family values" (read conservative ubertraditional family values)
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Yes, now that you have clarified, I see what you were referring to. You are referring to the type of attitude that creates enviromental influences that guide family decisions and affect the individual within the family. I certainly cannot deny the impact, or the fact that patterns are established through these mechanisms. Boundaries within these families are often very rigid leading to a high degree of enmeshment. While the circumstances may be different, the process is the same. From a systems based perspective, these environmental influences can never be ignored.
 
deafdyke said:
However Focus on the Family is a VERY right-wing organization that is extremely inflamatory towards other ways on how to raise a kid.
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Then they should have a lot of support from Deaf Culture.
 
deafdyke said:
I meant that AG Bell and FotF have very conservative attitudes towards raising kids.....basicly " our way is the ONLY right way....and our way is to worship the traditional "family values" family model as THE PERFECT UTOPIA, even if evidence indicates that the family values model can be dysfunctional.
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Somehow at the many AGB conventions I attended, I must have missed the lectures on traditional family values. As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about but are merely spewing forth some empty headed cliches.
 
rick48 said:
And many who have benefited from AGB would say the same about your comment.
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Do I care? No...

As usual, u throw insults at someone for having an opinion about an organization.
 
rick you don't get it at ALL. You honestly honestly don't get it.
Somehow at the many AGB conventions I attended, I must have missed the lectures on traditional family values. As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about but are merely spewing forth some empty headed cliches.
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Whatever. You're so entrenched in the sucesses of a relative few (and yes I know you know a lot of AG Bell members....However the fact is, most of the deaf kids of your daughter's generation WERE educated TC) and you're so entrenched in the Ag Bell sucesses and mentality that you're not seeing the forest for the trees!You really need to learn to analyze about stuff.....like just analyzing their positions on things etc.
They really do assume that ALL families are emotionally healthy and can take advantage of middle class things. They idolize the family as the Best thing in the world.....hence their position on things like residental schools etc.
Oh, and the deaf culture is not right wing. Just b/c you had a horrible experiance with some extremists, it doesn't mean that ALL deaf people are like that. There are Deafies of ALL stripes and beliefs.....Hell, the deaf culture is getting more and more accepting of everything.....You know, the stereotypical anti oral skills anti-CI/HA Deafie is actually not that numorous....Stop stereotyping!
 
Yes, rick.........You don't understand that most Deaf people are very pro-full toolbox. Yes, there's anti CI and anti HA extremisim.........but in years of posting here, HOW many times have you actually encountered one of those stereotypical extremists? You're just so bitter about the experiance you had back then, that you've chosen to paint us all with the same brush!
 
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