Palin's Daughter--Pregnant!

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Maria said:
Well, what influences them if that abstinence don't work ? TV ? Other teens that some parents allow and they tell it to other teens and for them to try it out ( curiousity ) ? Magazine or Sex Ed ? Out of control hormones ? Hmm....
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so what do you propose? ban those? Abstinence does not work because by denying information and education about sex, they're naturally curious about it. It's human nature. Worst of all - they don't even know the consequence of sex. With proper education - we would know better and it will certainly help our judgment. My gf and I had sex education early on and that's why we did not have sex until late college year.

Maria said:
Well, you can't put the leash on around their necks to keep an eye on them for 24/7. What are you gonna do about it ? You wouldn't know WHEN it will happen. You wouldn't know WHERE it will take place.
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right.... which is why proper education is needed. Think about giving a gun or car to a person who does not know how to use it. We both know the outcome will not be pretty. By educating the consequence of sex... STDs... condoms... I think we can safely say the teens will exercise with caution.

Maria said:
Well, look at Palin's daughter. Her and her boyfriend are plannin' to marry. She don't jump around with different men when the abstinence don't work. Some teen girls are smart for not jumpin' around, knowin' what it will do to their health ( STDs and so forth ). Some teens know what responsiblities are.
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really? you sure? That's quite an assumption you made there. She's hot and young..... one can assume anything :hmm:

Maria said:
Like for instance : My oldest daughter got pregnant with her first son at the age of 16. She wasn't the only one. I was there for her to go through all this. Right now, her son is 12 years old and wear a black belt ( karate ). She don't get STDs or whatsoever. She stayed with her man for over 10 years.
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that's cool. but unfortunately - hundred of thousands of teen moms do not share that same happy ending like your daughter.
 
jillio said:
The fact of the matter is, she is a 17 year old child pregnant with another child. Children giving birth to children is never a good situation, especially for the child being born into that situation.

Oh, well. It's not the only first time nowdays. Too many children giving birth to children everywhere. That's not somethin' that we live in old days. Time changes than old times and things have gone too far.

Teenaged marraiges have an even higher divorce rate than the general population, and the general population is well over 50%.

I am aware of that. Adult marriages have high divorce rate, too... not just teenages marriages.

I can hear the shotgun going off at that wedding ceremony from here.

Why aren't Palin's daughter and the father of her child already married, if that is the intent? They have known about her preganancy for quite a while.

Why not you ask them and see what they say ? I don't have any clue what's their reason behind this.

Did you teach your daughter abstinence only?
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No, her old school taught her that. I don't have that " abstinence " in my old days when I attended schools.
 
Maria said:
I am aware of that. Adult marriages have high divorce rate, too... not just teenages marriages.
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Teen Divorces can contribute to Adult Divorces because well - teens become adults.
 
Jiro said:
Teen Divorces can contribute to Adult Divorces because well - teens become adults.
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Yes, that's true. But the rate of divorce for couples that married as teens, and especially those that married just because of pregnancy, is still the highest of all the rates. Why? Because teens are not prepared to enter into lifelong committment to others...whether it is a life partner or a child. Teen parents also have higher rates of abuse and neglect of children, as well as death resulting from that abuse and neglect.
 
Using mothers' age at time of birth of the abused child, the younger the mother, the greater the rate of child abuse. However, there was not a significant relationship when mother's age was measured as age at time of abuse. Large families and minority children were also found to be at greater risk of abuse. The findings have implications for prevention of physical abuse at both the microsystem and macrosystem level. At the micro level, the findings confirm the importance of making contraceptives and abortion widely available so that motherhood can be postponed and family size can be controlled.

Mother's Age and Physical Abuse of Children.
 
Jiro said:
so what do you propose? ban those? Abstinence does not work because by denying information and education about sex, they're naturally curious about it. It's human nature. Worst of all - they don't even know the consequence of sex. With proper education - we would know better and it will certainly help our judgment. My gf and I had sex education early on and that's why we did not have sex until late college year.

Ban ? No. If, they don't even know the consequence of sex, then let it teach them by experiencin' it... that's if, they chose not to follow what they are taught. It's best to let them - remember that famous " what you sow, you shall reap " unfortunately, of course. Now, you tell me since WHEN schools started their Sex Education ? Back in 1980's ? or Back in 1970's ? Think that Sex Education Class will work ? :hmm: So much just like abstinence itself don't work like others said when it first brought up 1990's, I think - correct me if, I am wrong.

right.... which is why proper education is needed. Think about giving a gun or car to a person who does not know how to use it. We both know the outcome will not be pretty. By educating the consequence of sex... STDs... condoms... I think we can safely say the teens will exercise with caution.

Well, I don't think that proper education will ALWAYS success, because teens are more likely want to try it out ... just for the hell of it at times. Sometimes, when they get high or attend party for alcohol beverages, they will more likely engage into it. It's not easy for some parents to figure it out WHEN and WHERE it will happen. How would you get teens to be honest to prevent that from happenin', Jiro ?


really? you sure? That's quite an assumption you made there. She's hot and young..... one can assume anything :hmm:

There, you a man and that's YOUR thinkin'. :nono: Go take a COLD shower! Some men don't know how to keep their pants on.


that's cool. but unfortunately - hundred of thousands of teen moms do not share that same happy ending like your daughter.
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I know. I don't think that Sex Ed class will always work. Somethin' that is needed to be done.
 
Maria said:
Ban ? No. If, they don't even know the consequence of sex, then let it teach them by experiencin' it... that's if, they chose not to follow what they are taught. It's best to let them - remember that famous " what you sow, you shall reap " unfortunately, of course. Now, you tell me since WHEN schools started their Sex Education ? Back in 1980's ? or Back in 1970's ? Think that Sex Education Class will work ? So much just like abstinence itself don't work like others said when it first brought up 1990's, I think - correct me if, I am wrong.

Well, I don't think that proper education will ALWAYS success, because teens are more likely want to try it out ... just for the hell of it at times. Sometimes, when they get high or attend party for alcohol beverages, they will more likely engage into it. It's not easy for some parents to figure it out WHEN and WHERE it will happen. How would you get teens to be honest to prevent that from happenin', Jiro ?

I know. I don't think that Sex Ed class will always work. Somethin' that is needed to be done.
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that's quite a lot of assumption there. It sounds as if you want the schools to teach about abstinence. MOST of time - Proper Education works. Of course there are some failure rates but the benefits outweigh the cons.

Yes the teens will try out sex regardless of sex education program but don't you think it's best if they were educated about the sex - the consequence, the protection, STDs? It's a win-win for all. It will either teach teens to practice safe sex (thus reducing pregnancy rate) or to delay having sex until adult age.

I have several friends who are open with their parents. Open Mind, Understanding, and Proper Educations are key to better relationship & communication between kids and parents. If you want teens to talk to you about sex, then parents should not be hard-ass about it and preach about abstinence or any such thing..... like Palin
 
Jiro said:
that's quite a lot of assumption there. It sounds as if you want the schools to teach about abstinence. MOST of time - Proper Education works. Of course there are some failure rates but the benefits outweigh the cons.

Yes the teens will try out sex regardless of sex education program but don't you think it's best if they were educated about the sex - the consequence, the protection, STDs? It's a win-win for all. It will either teach teens to practice safe sex (thus reducing pregnancy rate) or to delay having sex until adult age.

I have several friends who are open with their parents. Open Mind, Understanding, and Proper Educations are key to better relationship & communication between kids and parents. If you want teens to talk to you about sex, then parents should not be hard-ass about it and preach about abstinence or any such thing..... like Palin
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Maria said:
Well, look at Palin's daughter. Her and her boyfriend are plannin' to marry. She don't jump around with different men when the abstinence don't work. Some teen girls are smart for not jumpin' around, knowin' what it will do to their health ( STDs and so forth ). Some teens know what responsiblities are.

Like for instance : My oldest daughter got pregnant with her first son at the age of 16. She wasn't the only one. I was there for her to go through all this. Right now, her son is 12 years old and wear a black belt ( karate ). She don't get STDs or whatsoever. She stayed with her man for over 10 years.
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Since they already know she is pregnant, why aren't they married now?
 
Cheri said:
I know that, and she was a small child, I was talking about teenagers, don't get confused.
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I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.

jillio said:
Her age doesn't matter. You said he would think differently when he had kids of his own. He did have a child of his own, and his views are still the same. He speaks as a father. Bydie is every bit as much a father as you are a mother.
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Byrdie714 said:
I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.



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No need to thank me. I was only speaking the truth, my friend.
 
One would think that feminists could, at least, congratulate Palin as exemplifying one of their core values: A woman's right to balance a career with family obligations. Some of you say she is a bad mother while some others of you she is bad for mothers who work because she is too good at having it all. She has a good support system of nearby family. She can juggle all this because she has a partner (hubby) who takes equal responsibility for raising their kids. Now that is real feminism. Kinda the opposite of "behind every man is a good woman".

The bickering here of late flies in the face of what real feminism is. Sure, there are questions about her qualifications just as there are questions about all candidates on any number of issues but her feminist role is not part of the VP's role.

That said, I like her, "I can do it" approach. That is, as opposed to "What can the government do for me" mentality of many, if not most, feminists.
 
I doubt the Supreme Court would dare do that. Some of you probably had those same fears when Alioto was ensconced a couple years back.

Btw, it is Roe.
 
jillio said:
Yes, we are all aware of that!:mad:
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All ? I am not one of them. I support Palin in despite of your disagreement with her and what she represents for this country.
 
Byrdie714 said:
I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.
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I don't know what u getting at, this is not what I'm talking about, never mind that, I'm not going to pull this thread off topic to talk about your daughter and teenagers.
 
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