'Open Carry' Law Contoversy: Gun Owner Cited

Banjo said:
I watched the whole video. It was completely unnecessary and reckless for the man to put everyone else at risk. He didn't save anyone's lives because none of them would have been shot and killed. All the man wanted was the money, give it and he'll go away. Then you can tell the cops and give them the description and they'll look for him.

The way the man positioned himself put everyone at risk because he used his co-worker as a human shield and the way he pointed his gun, it could have went through the girl. They were very close to it. The man turned his back and ran, yet he was still being shot at.

Yes, he was a low-life criminal trying to rob a place, but if he's running away like a scaredy cat, let him and let the cops take care of it. Don't put anyone at risk. The guy watched too many Charles Bronson movies.
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Our hero isn't the only one watching too many Charles Bronson movies.
 
jillio said:
Exactly. It is this vigilante attitude that is so frightening. The average citizen carrying a gun is thinking about only one thing...hitting the target they want to hit. They are not taking their surroundings into consideration and they are not evaluating the need for action. Even a trained police officer will not pull a weapon and fire if it endangers innocent people. It isn't worth the risk. And they are trained to take in the environment and make that judgement. People like this idiot aren't.
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Right, this man did not think first. The primary goal for a robbery is monetary gain, not to kill people.
 
jillio said:
You've never heard of a lot of things we have managed to show you have occurred. Just because you have heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.:laugh2:
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jillio said:
Never happened, rarely happened.....BS Jiro. It happens. We have already shown you that. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It just means that you choose to ignore the probability of negative consequences just so you can continue to pack heat and feed your ego.
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3 of us have never heard of it. and there isn't "we". There's only you who were trying to show me something that doesn't explain anything.

jillio said:
Why do I get the impression that you are the type that would let a toddler stick a fork in an outlet and then say, "Bet he won't do that again!":roll:
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it's not for toddlers. just the adults who had to be babysit .
 
Banjo said:
Right, this man did not think first. The primary goal for a robbery is monetary gain, not to kill people.
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you don't know that.

and robber forgets that he's robbing in a gun-friendly state. what was he thinking?
 
Banjo said:
I watched the whole video. It was completely unnecessary and reckless for the man to put everyone else at risk. He didn't save anyone's lives because none of them would have been shot and killed. All the man wanted was the money, give it and he'll go away. Then you can tell the cops and give them the description and they'll look for him.

The way the man positioned himself put everyone at risk because he used his co-worker as a human shield and the way he pointed his gun, it could have went through the girl. They were very close to it. The man turned his back and ran, yet he was still being shot at.

Yes, he was a low-life criminal trying to rob a place, but if he's running away like a scaredy cat, let him and let the cops take care of it. Don't put anyone at risk. The guy watched too many Charles Bronson movies.
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jillio said:
Exactly. It is this vigilante attitude that is so frightening. The average citizen carrying a gun is thinking about only one thing...hitting the target they want to hit. They are not taking their surroundings into consideration and they are not evaluating the need for action. Even a trained police officer will not pull a weapon and fire if it endangers innocent people. It isn't worth the risk. And they are trained to take in the environment and make that judgement. People like this idiot aren't.
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there's no if. there's only fact. the only person who was killed is the robber. end of story. everybody goes home safely except a robber.
 
Banjo said:
Right, this man did not think first. The primary goal for a robbery is monetary gain, not to kill people.
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I am 99.9% certain that stats will show that when people are injured or killed during an armed robbery, the vast majority of the time it is because they resisted.
 
jillio said:
I am 99.9% certain that stats will show that when people are injured or killed during an armed robbery, the vast majority of the time it is because they resisted.
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99.9%? so confident, aren't ya?

so... let's see it. this so-called stats you speak of.
 
Jiro said:
there's no if. there's only fact. the only person who was killed is the robber. end of story. everybody goes home safely except a robber.
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And what about the next time, Jiro? For a Buddhist, you don't seem to place a great deal of value on human life. Just sayin'.
 
Jiro said:
3 of us have never heard of it. and there isn't "we". There's only you who were trying to show me something that doesn't explain anything.


it's not for toddlers. just the adults who had to be babysit .
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On, wow! A whole population of 3? Well, that's a different story, now, isn't it? And what is the common denominator in those 3?

Come on, Jiro. You need to do better than that.:laugh2:
 
Jiro said:
99.9%? so confident, aren't ya?

so... let's see it. this so-called stats you speak of.
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I'd look them up just like I found the site to discredit your never happens claims, but I really don't want to humiliate you any further.:P
 
jillio said:
And what about the next time, Jiro? For a Buddhist, you don't seem to place a great deal of value on human life. Just sayin'.
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next time? yea - just one less criminal in the world.

what is this value of human life that you speak of? Buddhist condones this action. that's why countries with strong Buddhism have death penalty. It's a simple cause and effect.

You commit crime? You'll have to pay for it.
 
jillio said:
I'd look them up just like I found the site to discredit your never happens claims, but I really don't want to humiliate you any further.:P
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less talk, more action.

that site explained nothing. all I see from you is numbers with no detail. the only detail is you inputting your fallacious interpretation. you did not even bother posting additional detail to dispute my post so I know for sure that if we both looked deeply into it, it does not support your claim. :)
 
Jiro said:
next time? yea - just one less criminal in the world.

what is this value of human life that you speak of? Buddhist condones this action. that's why countries with strong Buddhism have death penalty. It's a simple cause and effect.

You commit crime? You'll have to pay for it.
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I don't know what particular brand of Buddhism you are studying, but they don't condone murder in any denomination I have investigated. Nor do they condone vigilante actions. Nor do they celebrate the death of another human being.
 
jillio said:
That is a denial of justice. No one gets the death penalty for armed robbery. Except when a Charles Bronson wanna be is involved.
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so you prefer dead victim over dead criminal? I see.

it's funny that your belief in this thread hugely contradicts with your belief in that gay marriage thread :lol:
 
Jiro said:
less talk, more action.

that site explained nothing. all I see from you is numbers with no detail. the only detail is you inputting your fallacious interpretation. you did not even bother posting additional detail to dispute my post so I know for sure that if we both looked deeply into it, it does not support your claim. :)
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Proved you wrong. That's all that matters.:giggle:
 
Jiro said:
so you prefer dead victim over dead criminal? I see.

it's funny that your belief in this thread hugely contradicts with your belief in that gay marriage thread :lol:
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What dead victim are you referring to?

How is it a contradiction? You are really reaching now.:laugh2:
 
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