Obama supporters?

BradB08 said:
You don't need SSI to get anywhere in life.

I just feel like you are taking advantage of the government (and taxpayers) while advocating a double standard for those who do not do such a thing.
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No he is not... He simply want to have his own job as self-emopyed (sp) whenever he success obtain his goal.. His posts already had explained in somewhere else at AllDeaf unless he can show you some of his posts from other threads.

EDIT: He already had some trouble with his pervious jobs some/few years ago. YES he did have his personal and ex-jobs before. He had a hard time... with his experiences. I won't explain what happened to him since it's his personal so..
 
KarissaMann05 said:

No he is not... He simply want to have his own job as self-emopyed (sp) whenever he successed obtain his goal.. His posts already had explained in somewhere else at AllDeaf unless he can show you some of posts from other threads.
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But don't others deserve the same assistance that he is getting?
 
BradB08 said:
You don't need SSI to get anywhere in life.

I just feel like you are taking advantage of the government (and taxpayers) while advocating a double standard for those who do not do such a thing.
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Ohh okay you want to be nosy in my life? I've been in motorcycle accident and have 6 different permanent scars and 3 different broken bones all over on my body, then since the courthouse, I got some of money and tired to fight with my parents so hard as I can that I can use that money to buy a home that I want with my career goals. I've been on varies of goals, and since I've been learning the real world in the adult's world, all I thought was just why not we just depend on ourselves instead of being dependence? Now I bought a land and plan to build a big greenhouse for me to be a farmer with, also I featured two rooms for those people who are very poor and need a place to stay. So since I've lived in Salem, Oregon, and another two homes in Vancouver, Washington, I've helped a single mother with 3 children and 3 cats in a 588 square feet, then another a old homeless unresponibilities man and my brother with huge debt freak, then worked with a friend who have problem with the smoking the cracks. My life is half beautiful and half ugly, but I am happy with my life because I felt everything's so realistic and are well prepared for something that I can help with the environments.

Just sharing how I see everything and what I would want to support.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
No he is not... He simply want to have his own job as self-emopyed (sp) whenever he success obtain his goal.. His posts already had explained in somewhere else at AllDeaf unless he can show you some of posts from other threads.

EDIT: He already had some trouble with his pervious jobs some/few years ago. YES he did have his personal and ex-jobs before. He had a hard time... with his experiences. I won't explain what happened to him since it's his personal so..
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Ohh thank you for stand up for me.. :hug:
 
jillio said:
That's my point. If I had the money being taken out of my check every 2 weeks to pay for someone else's health care in my pocket, then I could most likely afford to pay for my own health care. Instead, I do without to provide for someone else. Universal health care would correct that inequity.
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Indeed it would.

And don't blame me. I grew up in a very blue-collar household. Neither parents went to college(they claim they couldn't afford it) and my father was an aerospace engineer for 16 years before he was laid off and all he could find for work was as a janitor. We went through some shitty years before things eventually picked up. I learned at a young age that if I wanted something and my parents couldn't help me with it, I would need to pay for it on my own. Though they have bailed me out a few times (probably out of guilt?), I've pretty much been on my own since 2002.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Ohh okay you want to be nosy in my life? I've been in motorcycle accident and have 6 different permanent scars and 3 different broken bones all over on my body, then since the courthouse, I got some of money and tired to fight with my parents so hard as I can that I can use that money to buy a home that I want with my career goals. I've been on varies of goals, and since I've been learning the real world in the adult's world, all I thought was just why not we just depend on ourselves instead of being dependence? Now I bought a land and plan to build a big greenhouse for me to be a farmer with, also I featured two rooms for those people who are very poor and need a place to stay. So since I've lived in Salem, Oregon, and another two homes in Vancouver, Washington, I've helped a single mother with 3 children and 3 cats in a 588 square feet, then another a old homeless unresponibilities man and my brother with huge debt freak, then worked with a friend who have problem with the smoking the cracks. My life is half beautiful and half ugly, but I am happy with my life because I felt everything's so realistic and are well prepared for something that I can help with the environments.

Just sharing how I see everything and what I would want to support.
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And you've had some unfortunate turns of events. But, if you want the government to relinquish all involvement, then help will not be available for you, either. Are you willing to give up the help the government provides to help you get on your feet?
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Ohh okay you want to be nosy in my life? I've been in motorcycle accident and have 6 different permanent scars and 3 different broken bones all over on my body, then since the courthouse, I got some of money and tired to fight with my parents so hard as I can that I can use that money to buy a home that I want with my career goals. I've been on varies of goals, and since I've been learning the real world in the adult's world, all I thought was just why not we just depend on ourselves instead of being dependence? Now I bought a land and plan to build a big greenhouse for me to be a farmer with, also I featured two rooms for those people who are very poor and need a place to stay. So since I've lived in Salem, Oregon, and another two homes in Vancouver, Washington, I've helped a single mother with 3 children and 3 cats in a 588 square feet, then another a old homeless unresponibilities man and my brother with huge debt freak, then worked with a friend who have problem with the smoking the cracks. My life is half beautiful and half ugly, but I am happy with my life because I felt everything's so realistic and are well prepared for something that I can help with the environments.

Just sharing how I see everything and what I would want to support.
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That's fine but telling others that they don't deserve the same assistance that you're getting?

That's the ONLY thing I don't understand. You have a good reason otherwise.
 
jillio said:
And you've had some unfortunate turns of events. But, if you want the government to relinquish all involvement, then help will not be available for you, either. Are you willing to give up the help the government provides to help you get on your feet?
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BradB08 said:
That's fine but telling others that they don't deserve the same assistance that you're getting?
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You both, Jillio and Brad, seems are asking me similar question. I feel like that the government should help us to work out for our life and our family, including the friends to focus on our own to reduce our dependence attitude toward to the governments which the governments know it actually have nothing to do with them.

That's the ONLY thing I don't understand. You have a good reason otherwise.
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:ty: for understanding how I see it.
 
I think that as long as we're paying taxes, we should get something in return.

After all, YOU are the government and I am the government and EVERYONE is the government. We are the ones that dictate what government does.

"Drowning the government in the bathtub" as Grover Norquist once suggested, does not work for all Americans. It only works for those who already have the financial means (read: The Rich) to do so. The rest of us are pretty much screwed.
 
I notice some of your posts over healthcare issues are misleading. Yes this is misleading information.

I´m on most of Jazzy´s, Brad´s and Jillo´s side over healthcare issues. I was like :confused: that some of posters made misleading posts over healthcare issues.

Health insurance is a luxury to me to save people's risk life than anything including big and fancy car, etc because I rather to help with my insurances to everyone who deserves to remain alive and want to see everyone treat equal.

Poor workers and employees who cannot afford to insure health insurance coverage when they desire to save their family life. A boy have to die because their parent´s insurance coverage is not limited enough. :(

BBC NEWS | Americas | Boy's death highlights US health debate

Did you know how much head surgery cost, my son had at almost 3 years ago? (I´m sure some of you remember my thread about my son at 3 years ago). I am realllllyyyyyy gllllaaaaddddd that I have health insurance for our family safety.... Why? Because my son´s life is my biggest concern than complaint about healthcare insurance. Do you want to face huge surgery bill? I bet you wouldn´t.

The heath insurance, I insured is unlimited which mean is everything except comestic surgery. With comestic surgery is very limited with very good reasons.

Anyway, not just low income people but million americans cannot afford to insure health for their family because it's too expensive. Check some threads.

http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/47361-u-s-report-40-million-cant-afford-health-care.html

http://www.alldeaf.com/general-health/33913-us-health-care-system-gets-d.html

http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/46824-us-isnt-ready-free-medical-like-canada.html

Obama´s healthcare plan. That´s why I support Obama´s healthcare for all Americans.

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Health Care

I don't want to work to pay taxes to help low income people and plus extra insurance for myself. I would support if I work to pay taxes to help low income people including myself.

wow, I am total speechless over your comment here. I feel really bad for Americans because they deserves to be treat equal, no matter what... To insure healthcare is mainly important than car...

I find unfair for the people who live on SSI or whatever to get medicard which workers doesn´t... They work hard to pay tax for medicard, etc for SSI and then pay extra health insurance coverage for family. :(

 
Liebling:-))) said:
Exactly
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I mean, why pay taxes at all if they go to support the wars of rich and greedy men?

I think people have been duped for far too long into believing that we must work for everything and that if we cannot afford something, that it is not meant to be.

That is not what humanity is. That is greed.

We have evolved enough to where "survival of the fittest" is no longer necessary. We can co-exist and support each other, if we're willing to.

War only benefits those who already have deep pockets. They are not concerned about society as a whole. They are only concerned about their own selfish ways.

Working class and middle class Americans should not have to foot the bill for the rich 1% of Americans.
 
Originally Posted by jillio
But don't others deserve the same assistance that he is getting?
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KarissaMann05 said:
Huh? I thought you knew?
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It´s healthcare issues, she referring to.

She ask the question why Puyo get SSI benefit and also Medicard as well from Government and against healthcare for all Americans because of government control... ? Yes, all Americans deserve the assistance from government is healthcare as the same as the people get SSI and medicard as well. If they are against healthcare for all Americans then they should also against SSI and medicard as well.

Do you think it´s fair for the workers/employers get nothing from Government in return when they work to pay tax to help low income people to get SSI benefit and medicard for free?
 
I´m like wow when I read the whole thread since my last post... I will be back for correction later.


Yes I know, Brad. *sigh*

 
we should just abolish medicaid + income tax. simplify the tax system (perhaps a variation of progressive tax and flat tax), place the cap on malpractice compensation, emphasize on intervention program, ban high fructose sugar syrup (that'll mean removing embargo on Cuba), offer incentive to doctors to improve general health of population, make medical lawsuit more difficult and costly to sue, and offer incentive to companies (drug, medical equipment, etc.) to reduce the cost of medicines and medical equipments. Medicines should be subsidized as much as our gas.

that way - we can receive almost full amount of what we earn to be able to afford health care. Universal Healthcare will not work in USA - not for a long while. I work full-time and I have a very good 100% medical + dental coverage (with $2,000 deductible). I get pissed off to see hefty amount being removed from my paycheck - something that I can't use. I don't believe in paying largely for other people who need it. Sorry but it's my money. I live in capitalist country, not socialist country. There are countless of organizations like church and donations who can help out. That's why you have to work smart and hard in life. I hate freeloaders who can't help themselves.
 
Yes, I'd aware of that SSI may be greedy and selfish but it may have a good reason too. :dunno:


we should just abolish medicaid + income tax. simplify the tax system (perhaps a variation of progressive tax and flat tax), place the cap on malpractice compensation, emphasize on intervention program, ban high fructose sugar syrup (that'll mean removing embargo on Cuba), offer incentive to doctors to improve general health of population, make medical lawsuit more difficult and costly to sue, and offer incentive to companies (drug, medical equipment, etc.) to reduce the cost of medicines and medical equipments. Medicines should be subsidized as much as our gas. ... ...That's why you have to work smart and hard in life. I hate freeloaders who can't help themselves.
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Jiro - your post sound good idea. That would be much better and helpful. As for job, indeed, that's why a job will make a person's life better. My opinion. I'd rather to have a career than no job.

My old and personal quote: "Be beware, disagreeing with others could cause you so confusion. If you feel so foolish for being misunderstood, don't. Get over it, do change your better right now. Otherwise, don't you want a regret to get you because of your minor (or major) mistakes?" -Jessie Bee, November 2006.

Please take this quote personally if you think it's great. :)
 
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Okay I read some posts. I don't know what I will say since you guys deeply "painted" me a bad mark...
 
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