not that its a bad thing but...

CSign said:
So then certain posters are making generalizations about hearing people as a rule, and if one was guilty then all the rest must pay?
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Do you really think you are contributing much to this discussion in a productive fashion? At no time did we say "all must pay". I have plenty of respect for many hearing posters here, am friends with them here, FB, and in real life. It is a select few that want to "fight" with us constantly. Where did we say "all must pay" ? Why do you continue to take every thread off track by taking everything personally? If we all did that, this forum would go nowhere.
 
AlleyCat said:
Do you really think you are contributing much to this discussion in a productive fashion? At no time did we say "all must pay". I have plenty of respect for many hearing posters here, am friends with them here, FB, and in real life. It is a select few that want to "fight" with us constantly. Where did we say "all must pay" ? Why do you continue to take every thread off track by taking everything personally? If we all did that, this forum would go nowhere.
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I am married to a hearing man..never made him "pay" for the audist views that many hearing people hold..just those who hold those views.
 
Jazzberry said:
I confess that I like the free for all where everyone gives their opinions as long as everyone states clearly who they are, what their background and experience is, and why they came to the forum.

Sometimes hearing advice from someone who doesn't actually have the experience to give it can be helpful to in a way that they probably don't realize. As in, OK ... don't do this but run in the other direction. Also, hearing them explaining their opinions helps me understand the influential people in my childhood better. And that is useful to me also, but again probably not in a way that some advise givers are expecting. Hope that makes sense.
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I agree.

I think is important for 'free for all' because then hearing parent will get variety of input and opinions and experience from which to make decision for child. If limited to specific group then think they will lose out on valuable input that maybe they do not think of before.

To me, rivenoak, frankiesmom and maybe even hearingaidmama, are incredible examples where they came here maybe not know much but learn so much from 'free for all.' Feel good that seem like have positive impact on someone's life and that of their child. That can make a difference if only one or two or three cases a year.
 
posts from hell said:
BTW - The only reason I pointed that grammar error out (and I have a personal rule not to do so) is because if you were a "fluent SEE" user, you would know that affect and effect had two different signs in SEE. Then with that knowledge you teach your kid the wrong words in the wrong places. Then the kid has to clear some stuff up down the road and realizing it was because of someone with bad knowledge.

The reason: Happened to me.
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^^^^^^ This! Botti just correct me the other day on word 'enunciate.' Whole life think 'annunciate.' So now understand. Best not to be taught 'wrong' word in first place.:cool2:
 
CSign said:
So then certain posters are making generalizations about hearing people as a rule, and if one was guilty then all the rest must pay?

I have not one time corrected anyone on this forum- I even refrained from correcting PFH on his grammar after he called my attention to an error I made.

It's not productive to make generalizations about people- whether they be deaf/hearing/black/white/pink or blue. In fact, we close ourselves off to opportunities when we make such hard and fast judgements on people based on one aspect of their being.

We are much more than deaf/hearing/catholic/gay/fill in the group. Sure, it's a part of us- but it doesn't define who we are.
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Huh? My deafness *absolutely* defines me. It is more than just my identity or a way for me to identify myself. It *is* me. Deaf. Just crazy.:roll:
 
CSign said:
So then certain posters are making generalizations about hearing people as a rule, and if one was guilty then all the rest must pay?

I have not one time corrected anyone on this forum- I even refrained from correcting PFH on his grammar after he called my attention to an error I made.

It's not productive to make generalizations about people- whether they be deaf/hearing/black/white/pink or blue. In fact, we close ourselves off to opportunities when we make such hard and fast judgements on people based on one aspect of their being.

We are much more than deaf/hearing/catholic/gay/fill in the group. Sure, it's a part of us- but it doesn't define who we are.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to get back to that....

recently, on my FB status I put how much I missed a few of my friends whom I became attached to here in Maryland who have moved away. Identified those friends as living in California, Massachusettes, North Carolina, and PA.

Someone said, "Hey, your Arizonan friends too? I said no...

Know why? Yes, I have reconnected with many of my old friends from high school on FB but they do not know me like my friends in those states because I have changed so much since moving to Maryland in '99. Thinking about it some more made me realize this...they (my old Arizonan friends) do not know the Deaf identity that I have adopted. They still see me as the "hearing" person I identified myself with growing up so they do not understand who I have become right now...the Deaf person.

So, yea, my Deaf identity is a big part of who I am now.
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rebeccalj said:
^^^^^^ This! Botti just correct me the other day on word 'enunciate.' Whole life think 'annunciate.' So now understand. Best not to be taught 'wrong' word in first place.:cool2:
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Oh, well. I can't help myself. No one deaf or hearing is safe from my spelling obsession.

Edit: Only worthwhile people who are staying get my corrections. If they are passing through, I ignore them.
 
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rebeccalj said:
^^^^^^ This! Botti just correct me the other day on word 'enunciate.' Whole life think 'annunciate.' So now understand. Best not to be taught 'wrong' word in first place.:cool2:
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I didn't know they were different... I had to look them up to know the difference. I agree, best not to be taught the 'wrong' word... saw bumper sticker saying something about "annunciation" school the other day... and mind thought annunciate was the same as enunciate... and my mind jumped to AVT or speech therapy... thinking it new fancy term for it or something... guess i'm wrong now...
 
Bottesini said:
Oh, well. I can't help myself. No one deaf or hearing is safe from my spelling obsession.

Edit: Only worthwhile people who are staying get my corrections. If they are passing through, I ignore them.
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feel free to correct my spelling... I can't spell to save my life :giggle:

Hearies always tell me... just sound it out... sounding it out doesn't help if you can't hear it...
 
ash345 said:
feel free to correct my spelling... I can't spell to save my life :giggle:

Hearies always tell me... just sound it out... sounding it out doesn't help if you can't hear it...
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I have alwayes been an ace in spelling growing up and sounding it out wasnt my skill. It was the whole language approach that worked for me...visual memorization.
 
shel90 said:
I have alwayes been an ace in spelling growing up and sounding it out wasnt my skill. It was the whole language approach that worked for me...visual memorization.
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for the first 3 or 4 years of school... I could spell really well... then I started to fail at it... and around 6th grade... I began to spell well whell... because I was trying to "sound it out" as my ST was telling me to do... I'm getting better... but still... its HARD...
 
shel90 said:
I wanted to get back to that....

recently, on my FB status I put how much I missed a few of my friends whom I became attached to here in Maryland who have moved away. Identified those friends as living in California, Massachusettes, North Carolina, and PA.

Someone said, "Hey, your Arizonan friends too? I said no...

Know why? Yes, I have reconnected with many of my old friends from high school on FB but they do not know me like my friends in those states because I have changed so much since moving to Maryland in '99. Thinking about it some more made me realize this...they (my old Arizonan friends) do not know the Deaf identity that I have adopted. They still see me as the "hearing" person I identified myself with growing up so they do not understand who I have become right now...the Deaf person.

So, yea, my Deaf identity is a big part of who I am now.
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I *SO* relate to this. Make me wonder if this why daughter having trouble adapting to *new* Mumma.
 
shel90 said:
I have alwayes been an ace in spelling growing up and sounding it out wasnt my skill. It was the whole language approach that worked for me...visual memorization.
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For me, same. Always relate word to something visual so can remember. Foreign languages come *very* easy for me. Can *do* English but lazy here at AD because among friends and no 'grammar' check.:giggle:

But easily speak, write and read Spanish, same with English, read and write French (have trouble enunciating). ASL obviously but am very slow it seem to me especially when compare to Travis. :giggle: Also know a little Portuguese (because mix of Spanish and French) plus some German because work with German family for summer and they teach me standard greetings, etc. Also know a little Danish (heritage) but definitely not fluent in.

Love different languages but love my own the best. :)
 
shel90 said:
I have alwayes been an ace in spelling growing up and sounding it out wasnt my skill. It was the whole language approach that worked for me...visual memorization.
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I used to do spelling test really well at school cos I memorised words and when I get new paper of new words I forget week before words. So really I am rubbish speller, just good memory when I need it.
 
Well considering there IS a way to have a group that includes whomever you want the point is moot.

The groups function allows smaller selections to chatter... An 'all FL' group could be created, or a 'RPG group' or a 'Gamer Girls' or whatever...
 
shel90 said:
I am married to a hearing man..never made him "pay" for the audist views that many hearing people hold..just those who hold those views.
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Same. I do not think I've ever made my hearing honey "pay" for anything. If anything, he is such a good man. I love him dearly, just like you and your honey :)
 
shel90 said:
I wanted to get back to that....

recently, on my FB status I put how much I missed a few of my friends whom I became attached to here in Maryland who have moved away. Identified those friends as living in California, Massachusettes, North Carolina, and PA.

Someone said, "Hey, your Arizonan friends too? I said no...

Know why? Yes, I have reconnected with many of my old friends from high school on FB but they do not know me like my friends in those states because I have changed so much since moving to Maryland in '99. Thinking about it some more made me realize this...they (my old Arizonan friends) do not know the Deaf identity that I have adopted. They still see me as the "hearing"
person I identified myself with growing up so they do not understand who I
have become right now...the Deaf person.

So, yea, my Deaf identity is a big part of who I am now.
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Exactly- it's a big part of you, but it doesn't define your entire existence.
 
No one gave a direct answer to my question, so I'll pose it one more time.

It's inappropriate for a hearing person to correct others spelling and grammar.

Is it appropriate or inappropriate for a deaf person to correct a hearing persons spelling or grammar?
 
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