not that its a bad thing but...

What was that exactly? :giggle:
 
Journey said:
I gave this some thought and get what you are saying :). But I am going to stick with what I said earlier about my own personal opinion regarding defining myself (or not). Also, I believe the moments I mentioned were defining moments in my eyes. They added to who I was by defining that I was a coach, a wife, a mother, a Fibro - but those define me in particular circumstances at a given time, those can and often do change. I don't disagree that some feel freedom in defining themselves - I, however, feel more freedom, challenge and possible growth in not defining myself. :)
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"A coach, a mother, a Fibro", are roles you have in particular circumstances. We are talking about the "who" that you bring to those various rolls. The core of who you are remains the same even when the roles change. We are have various rolls to fulfill.

Let me use Shel as an example: she is a wife, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a teacher, a friend. (And many more, I am sure). But what is the consistency in all of those rolls? She is a Deaf wife, a Deaf mother, a Deaf daughter, a Deaf sister, a Deaf teacher, a Deaf friend. That does not change. It is a consistent part of the "who" that she brings to every roll she has to fulfill in her life.
 
jillio said:
"A coach, a mother, a Fibro", are roles you have in particular circumstances. We are talking about the "who" that you bring to those various rolls. The core of who you are remains the same even when the roles change. We are have various rolls to fulfill.

Let me use Shel as an example: she is a wife, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a teacher, a friend. (And many more, I am sure). But what is the consistency in all of those rolls? She is a Deaf wife, a Deaf mother, a Deaf daughter, a Deaf sister, a Deaf teacher, a Deaf friend. That does not change. It is a consistent part of the "who" that she brings to every roll she has to fulfill in her life.
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Hmmm jillio are you trying to argue that I am wrong in how I define or don't define myself? <just teasing ;-)> Let me try and be clearer. I believe those 'roles' have been strong defining moments in my life because they have helped shape me, teach me, change me even at my core. I understand the idea of a constant that some people have that they feel defines them (and their every action and choice) and I have full respect for that and even a level of admiration. It's just that, for me, I have never felt that way. Maybe someday I will.
 
Journey said:
Hmmm jillio are you trying to argue that I am wrong in how I define or don't define myself? <just teasing ;-)> Let me try and be clearer. I believe those 'roles' have been strong defining moments in my life because they have helped shape me, teach me, change me even at my core. I understand the idea of a constant that some people have that they feel defines them (and their every action and choice) and I have full respect for that and even a level of admiration. It's just that, for me, I have never felt that way. Maybe someday I will.
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No, of course not.:giggle: I am simply explaining the difference between a constant that defines one and roles.
 
posts from hell said:
Be a woman. Say that I offended you by doing that. Say that I offended you by saying that I wouldn't share certain information with hearies.
I don't even care one bit.
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Interesting... Other people would get banned for correcting spelling in this messageboard.. How come you don't care..???


jillio said:
OMG! The inability to take the deaf perspective is astounding.:roll:
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jillio said:
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Talk about paternalistic. GAWD, woman!
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jillio said:
No, of course not.:giggle: I am simply explaining the difference between a constant that defines one and roles.
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jillio said:
Another indication of the inability to take the Deaf perspective.:cool2:
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Typical responses to stir up the pot...
 
Cloggy said:
Interesting... Other people would get banned for correcting spelling in this messageboard.. How come you don't care..???





Typical responses to stir up the pot...
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Stir the pot? I think not. Point out the audism. If the hearies get offended by having their audism pointed out, it's their issue.
 
Cloggy said:
Is it?

ps. Great Avtar
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Certainly is a stir-up-the-pot response on your part. Wasn't necessary. We Deafies are smarter than you'd like to think. :wave:

We saw your initial post (the red part).
 
Cloggy said:
Interesting... Other people would get banned for correcting spelling in this messageboard.. How come you don't care..???
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Read again, buddy bub.

First: Who has gotten banned for correcting spelling here? I have never seen a such thing.

Second: I was pointing out to her - that I don't even care if she says out loud that I offended her. At least she's be upfront about it instead of being a typical hearie, beating around the bush. Not the first time she done that.

It's all about this: "Get to the point already."
 
"We do not need to proselytise either by our speech or by our writing. We can only do so really with our lives. Let our lives be open books for all to study." - Gandhi
 
My aunt- mom's sister, very similar to me in terms of belief, perspective.
She's a psychiatric social worker with gangs.

She is very dear to me and we discuss a lot of stuff. I have described my experiences on this forum and so we were discussing audism. Why? She never knew of it before, so she wanted to understand more about it. We also discussed other things and in that part of the discussions one example she used was the idea <still coming from a hearing perspective> about the idea of having enhanced, "super-hearing", how that would be considered "better" ....I said at one time, I would have assumed that possibility was automatically better. But that was audism, now I wouldn't think that way. So we talked more about that. We have a lot of discussions on perspectives, and social issues, psychology....
 
Cloggy said:
Interesting... Other people would get banned for correcting spelling in this messageboard.. How come you don't care..???





Typical responses to stir up the pot...
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It still doesnt change the fact that the Deaf perspective isnt as valued.
 
Wirelessly posted

Alex should add a new rule to AllDeaf: 'The Deaf/dhh are always right!!!' :p
 
Hey, hey guys- there IS a group or several groups with no hearies allowed... or no men, or no women , or only GLT, or only cat lovers... or whatever...

(runs off to make a cat username group... as a point)
 
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