Michael Jackson Died at the age of 50

[Liebling:-)))]

Good point, Liebling. If the parents truly wanted justice they wouldn't have accepted the settlement.

It´s exact my point. I as a parent would prefer to see justice over money.

because his sexual preference is little boys

I personally believe that he was an asexual.

red flag!

Many children slept in his bed, confirmed that they was NEVER touched inappropriately by Michael.

Unanswered questions that leave far too many holes in the story of the two accusers.

It is very telling that the first accuser's family accepted a large sum of money rather than opting for justice. Speaks volumes regarding their motivation and their character.

Exactly

What? You are saying that a child cannot accidently walk into a room where an adult male has just finished a shower and is getting dressed?

Yeah

of course

yet this boy got a REAL GOOD look at Jackson's erection...

must have been a long and close look wouldn't you say?

It could be his CURIOUSLY because he never see adult´s nude in his life.

My hubby & I are nude front of our teenage children as the same as they are nude front of us as well without touch each other. Are we pedophile or molester?

Michael Jackson confesses:
I sleep with boys
In TV interview, singer obsessed
with children says it's not sexual
Posted: February 04, 2003
1:00 am Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com


Pop superstar Michael Jackson admitted last night in a television documentary that he loves to have young boys sleep in his bed.


Michael Jackson: "It's what the whole world should do." (file photo)

What's more, everyone should do it, says the 44-year-old Jackson, who was accused of sexually molesting a 13-year-old boy a decade ago, and who admits recently encouraging a 12-year-old cancer sufferer to sleep in his bedroom.

“It's what the whole world should do,” Jackson told interviewer Martin Bashir on the Granada television program, "Living With Michael Jackson," according to a London Times account. Granada is one of the largest independent television companies in the United Kingdom.

Both Jackson and the cancer patient claim no sexual contact occurred during the sleepovers at Jackson's Neverland ranch in California.

Ten years ago, parents of 13-year-old Jordan Chandler accused Jackson of sexually molesting their son during overnight stays at his 3,000-acre ranch. After reaching a multimillion-dollar settlement with Jackson, the family dropped the case and no charges were brought against the pop star.

Michael Jackson confesses:<br> I sleep with boys

"Sleeping" in this case was being used literally, not as a euphemism for sex. The entire interview needs to be seen to prevent distortions in context. Many cultures endorse the sharing of beds of adults and children. Are they all guilty of molestation?

My friend who grew up in Puerto Rico slept with different adults as a child. When she moved here, she was shocked by the views against it.

Yes, Michael do not denied that he was nude front of children when he came out from the shower and allowed the children slept in his bed. The children confirmed that Michael never touch them.

Ýes I am well aware that accord U.S. law that it´s sexual abuse if the children look at adult´s nude bodies. It´s sad because Michael should have known better what he did is crime to U.S. law.

Should I take my grandpa to court?

I see the problem is some people confused nudity with porn - sex abuse, etc.

Maybe this boy wanted to take a long look....

Yes, out of natural curiousity.

Naw...just opt for a million dollar settlement!

when I was kid, we would go to the public pool and in the locker room we changed into a swimming suits. We would briefly be nude in front of one another, young and old. There wasnt anything sexual about it. Just because a child sees an adult naked doesnt mean anything.

Exactly, I am nude front of children and adult while I changed into a swimming suit and also go shower as well. It doesn´t bother us... It´s just natural nudity, not sexuality... :roll:

My theory on MJ, is his brothers got him to have sex with a groupie at a very young age. And the experience was so weird and traumatic, it forever warped him. So when he was older, when he would have feelings for a girl it would bring up that traumatic memory.

From watching Dr. Drew on Loveline, often times when a female caller had a little girl voice they were victims of sexual abuse. MJ's voice was somewhat childlike, so maybe he too was a victim of sexual abuse.

I personally beleive that he was an asexual.

MJ stated that he was abused physically and emotionally by his father, and his childhood was not happy one, that´s why he spend time to play with boys because he missed out alot on it. It has something do with his sexuality problem.

I know that he donated millions to children´ charities, he spent his whole life trying to help children.

When you are a good hearted person and have a lot of money, people tend to take advantage of you.

 

[jillio]

It´s exact my point. I as a parent would prefer to see justice over money.

I personally believe that he was an asexual.



Many children slept in his bed, confirmed that they was NEVER touched inappropriately by Michael.




Exactly



Yeah



It could be his CURIOUSLY because he never see adult´s nude in his life.

My hubby & I are nude front of our teenage children as the same as they are nude front of us as well without touch each other. Are we pedophile or molester?








Yes, Michael do not denied that he was nude front of children when he came out from the shower and allowed the children slept in his bed. The children confirmed that Michael never touch them.

Ýes I am well aware that accord U.S. law that it´s sexual abuse if the children look at adult´s nude bodies. It´s sad because Michael should have known better what he did is crime to U.S. law.





I see the problem is some people confused nudity with porn - sex abuse, etc.



Yes, out of natural curiousity.

Exactly, I am nude front of children and adult while I changed into a swimming suit and also go shower as well. It doesn´t bother us... It´s just natural nudity, not sexuality... :roll:



I personally beleive that he was an asexual.

MJ stated that he was abused physically and emotionally by his father, and his childhood was not happy one, that´s why he spend time to play with boys because he missed out alot on it. It has something do with his sexuality problem.

I know that he donated millions to children´ charities, he spent his whole life trying to help children.

When you are a good hearted person and have a lot of money, people tend to take advantage of you.

Very insightful.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I find it ironic some "pro" has been putting out these implications for several pages and can't figure out why I'm defensive :roll:

just goes to show most pros are ignorant :roll:

and for the record I was physically abused. covered with scars from cigarettes burns and beatings. yeah that's why I defend kids at all costs. at least some of us do

I´m sorry about your bad experience. I know how terrible pain because my sister and I were also physically and emotionally abused as well. I went to self-help group and therapy in the past because I want to get the help. I think positive how to respect myself and respect others.

My sister and I knew straight way that MJ was an innocent after learn MJ´s scandal in 1993 because we had been through before. We do not beleive Jordan and his family.

already have. still hate to see kids getting hurt in anyway at all

MJ did not hurt the children. The children, Michael involved with stated that he never touch or hurt them.

 

[yagazn]

Michael Jackson 911 Tape

Michael Jackson 911 Tape: "He's Not Breathing...He Needs Help!" - E! Online

Why didn't the caller mention his name Michael Jackson instead saying "Gentlemen"???

Caller: Uh, sir, I have—we have, uh, a gentleman here that needs help, and he's not breathing. He's not breathing and we need to—we're trying to pump him, but he's not. . .He's not.

I would say his name Michael Jackson....not the "Gentlemen".

 

[Bottesini]

Michael Jackson 911 Tape: "He's Not Breathing...He Needs Help!" - E! Online

Why didn't the caller mention his name Michael Jackson instead saying "Gentlemen"???

Caller: Uh, sir, I have—we have, uh, a gentleman here that needs help, and he's not breathing. He's not breathing and we need to—we're trying to pump him, but he's not. . .He's not.

I would say his name Michael Jackson....not the "Gentlemen".

That puzzle me

Police scanners can pick up transmissions and then have many voyeurs arrive and get in the way.

 

[Jiro]

it is not uncommon to not mention high-profile people's name thru telephone. It's for security reason.

 

[shel90]

Interesting that two people who were abused as children have different viewpoints on the whole sex scandal.

Not making light of it but just find it interesting....

 

[shel90]

Michael Jackson 911 Tape: "He's Not Breathing...He Needs Help!" - E! Online

Why didn't the caller mention his name Michael Jackson instead saying "Gentlemen"???

Caller: Uh, sir, I have—we have, uh, a gentleman here that needs help, and he's not breathing. He's not breathing and we need to—we're trying to pump him, but he's not. . .He's not.

I would say his name Michael Jackson....not the "Gentlemen".

That puzzle me

Probably didnt want the media to get a hold of it over the airwaves...

 

[Babyblue]

Yes, Michael do not denied that he was nude front of children when he came out from the shower and allowed the children slept in his bed. The children confirmed that Michael never touch them.

As a parent. I would be very upset if my children went to someones house and the adult there allowed them to see them in nude.

That to me is inappropriate.

Now I am not speaking of a nudest camp or anything.

but as a parent that trust the adult to look out for my children well being. by not exposing themselves.

 

[Bottesini]

Interesting that two people who were abused as children have different viewpoints on the whole sex scandal.

Not making light of it but just find it interesting....

Me too!

 

[yagazn]

Police scanners can pick up transmissions and then have many voyeurs arrive and get in the way.

Huh? voyeur that is.....
1. A person who derives sexual gratification from observing the naked bodies or sexual acts of others, especially from a secret vantage point.
2. An obsessive observer of sordid or sensational subjects.

[French, from Old French, one who lies in wait, from voir, to see, from Latin vidēre, to see; see weid- in Indo-European roots.]
voy·eur'ism n., voy'eur·is'tic adj., voy'eur·is'ti·cal·ly adv.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

You think they are into necrophilia?

 

[yagazn]

Remember Anne Nicole Smith Death back in 2007, Here's the 911 news report:

“She’s not breathing, and she’s not responsive. She’s, um, actually Anna Nicole Smith,” the woman from the Seminole Police is heard saying in asking for help in Room 607

“Oh, OK,” a woman at the Hollywood Police Department responds.
Officials say they were on the scene six minutes after the call. Smith, a former Playboy playmate, model and reality TV character, was pronounced dead about an hour later at a hospital.

The nurse mentioned her name Anna Nicole Smith to 911.

Anyway, I'm gonna go out soon.

Peace

 

[dreama]

Interesting that two people who were abused as children have different viewpoints on the whole sex scandal.

Not making light of it but just find it interesting....

There is bound to be more then just two people, but some people prefere to keep things like that secret. Some will tell other people. It varies.

To me, I don't care if a person makes good music or not. If they violate children, that's it.

 

[saywhatkid]

Interesting that two people who were abused as children have different viewpoints on the whole sex scandal.

Not making light of it but just find it interesting....

We know one of these people went for counseling. The other? Unsure. Not trying to make anything out of it other than observance. It is a horrible crime, and the punishment is never fair. The victims are sentenced to life, while the perp gets a much shorter sentence.
I have also witnessed, via news, the results of false accusations. Once you have been accused of being a pedophile, there is no way to convince everyone that you are not guilty. Sad.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

it was like he was confessing his guilt

I will tell you this... It creeped me out.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Remember Anne Nicole Smith Death back in 2007, Here's the 911 news report:

“She’s not breathing, and she’s not responsive. She’s, um, actually Anna Nicole Smith,” the woman from the Seminole Police is heard saying in asking for help in Room 607

“Oh, OK,” a woman at the Hollywood Police Department responds.
Officials say they were on the scene six minutes after the call. Smith, a former Playboy playmate, model and reality TV character, was pronounced dead about an hour later at a hospital.

The nurse mentioned her name Anna Nicole Smith to 911.

Anyway, I'm gonna go out soon.

Peace

I'm glad you brought this up. I've been itching to say something about this.

There is a difference between Anna Nicole Smith and this. Anna Nicole had no medical reason to be on the drugs that killed her. I would say that just because demerol was found doesn't mean that Jackson was abusing it. He had lupus. Lupus is a condition that can cause wide spread pain in the form of arthritis. Jackson was reported to have this. I'm no doctor, but I am fairly knowledgable about diseases and it would NOT be out of the ordinary for someone with lupus to be on heavy narcotics such as demerol.

http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/web...nunderstanding.aspx?articleid=2235&zoneid=523

 

[Liebling:-)))]

There is bound to be more then just two people, but some people prefere to keep things like that secret. Some will tell other people. It varies.

To me, I don't care if a person makes good music or not. If they violate children, that's it.

That´s exactly why my sister and I don´t beleive Jordan and his family - how could they SUE them and describe everything etc etc... stare MJ´s penis, etc... Suffering?????? I know due my childhood experience because we keep ourselves for long years until few years ago. Yes, I never told my Dad and brother about this until before my sister´s funeral, I told them why I don´t want to see that man attend my sister´s funeral because I know my sister would agree with me. They were shock and very upset and tried to remember and understood now why my sister told them to not mention that man´s name to her. They respect my and my sister´s wish to forbid that man to attend my sister´s funeral. The problem is our 10 years younger half sister is the daughter of that man and my mother, that´s why we keep ourselves for our half sister´s sake. She still know nothing about what and how her father did to us. She broke her contact with us because we did is disrespectful for forbid her father to attend my sister´s funeral whom he know us as little girls. I hope his father will tell her the truth one day.

 

[sara1981]

updates:

Joe Jackson: 'We Don't Like What's Going On'
Joe Jackson: 'We Don't Like What's Going On' - Michael Jackson : People.com

A day after Michael Jackson's death, a cloud of deep sadness – mixed with growing anger – has descended on the Jackson family home in Encino, where Joe and Katherine Jackson and their children have gathered to mourn.

"We're holding a family meeting now," Joe told PEOPLE in a brief interview midday. "We don't like what's going on."

A source close to the family tell PEOPLE that, while the adults of the family put up a brave front on Friday for Michael's three children – Prince, 12, Paris, 11, and Blanket, 7 – the emotions on Saturday are raw and bitter.


'The Sadness is Unreal'
"The kids have fallen apart today," says the source. "They have taken it so, so hard. Yesterday everybody was being really strong for the kids, but today it just hit everybody. There are so many tears."

A sharp division has opened between Michael Jackson's lawyers and personal staff and his parents and eight siblings.

"There is so much sadness in the house today, it's unreal. They are so confused. They are so in the dark," says the source. "The family has no access to the will. [Michael's lawyers] won't let the family see the will ... The family has no idea what to do. They don't even know when to bury him. They don't know what to do about anything. They aren't getting any answers from Michael's lawyers."


Mrs. Jackson Rebuffed
Even Katherine Jackson, the singer's mother – who reportedly visited the singer's Los Angeles home yesterday to gather clothing for his burial – has been rebuffed by Michael's camp, according to the source. "Michael's people won't give Mrs. Jackson anything."

Another source of deep concern for the family: The intentions of Debbie Rowe, Jackson's former wife and the mother of his two older children, whose lawyer yesterday confirmed that Rowe retains parental rights. The Jacksons apparently fear that Rowe, who has not lived with the children in year, may now want to raise them.

"They haven’t heard from Debbie Rowe and don’t know what’s going on in that respect, either. Joe and Katherine really want the children," says the source. "They for sure want the children."


Independent Autopsy
Another source close to the family tells PEOPLE that the family is so concerned about the reliability of Jackson's handlers that there is a possibility that patriarch Joe Jackson, now acting once again as the family chief, will request an independent autopsy.

"They're in shock and they want answers," the source says. "The issue is the people around him: vampires and blood suckers.”

About the only positive development, says this source, is the rare sense of unity that now unites the large and fractious family. "They are coming together and Joe is running the show. It was tough for them all growing up, but the parents never stole from Michael and they had his best interests at heart."

 

[sara1981]

updates:

Attention Focuses on Michael Jackson's Doctor
Attention Focuses on Michael Jackson's Doctor - Michael Jackson : People.com

Michael Jackson's body has been released to a mortuary by the Los Angeles County coroner's office, which completed its autopsy Friday, and his family members have begun to organize the music legend's funeral.

But with final autopsy reports likely to take up to six weeks – and family patriarch Joe Jackson telling PEOPLE, "The truth is still to be told" – the investigation into the pop star's sudden death has focused on Dr. Conrad Murray, a financially strapped Vegas physician who was at Jackson's side when the 50-year-old went into cardiac arrest Thursday, the Los Angeles Times reports.

On Friday, detectives said they wish to meet and discuss the case with Murray – having stated that the cardiologist was not the target of a criminal investigation. Earlier, authorities reportedly seized Murray's BMW sedan from the driveway of Jackson's rented mansion in Holmby Hills, Calif.

"It may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining the cause of death," said an LAPD spokeswoman.


At Jackson's Side
The doctor was administering CPR on Jackson at the time paramedics responded to a 911 call for help. Murray also accompanied the ambulance to the University of California, Los Angeles, Medical Center, where Jackson was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m.

"We know [Jackson] was taking some prescription medication," said Craig Harvey, a spokesman for the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office. He said that the autopsy revealed no signs of foul play. The probe is also focusing on what drugs the pop star did use.

Murray, 51, is reported to be licensed in California, Nevada and Texas, with an office in Houston, and had treated Jackson for three years. The star reportedly requested two weeks ago that Murray be with him.

"Michael told me personally that he trusted this man," said Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live, the concert group producing Jackson's scheduled London shows.


Closed His Practice
On June 15, TMZ reports, Murray shut his private practice and dispatched a letter to his patients, saying he was indefinitely closing down his office.

"I am deeply saddened to leave you at this point, but please know my absence is not permanent," his letter states. "In my absence, I will continue to manage the practice, and be involved as much as possible but from a distance. "

He also says, "My absence is not permanent."

Murray, who has not responded to several requests for comment by the press, was beset with money problems, according to the Times, and last year was dealt hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal judgments against him.

 

[sara1981]

updates:

Joe Jackson: How Did My Son Die?
Joe Jackson: How Did My Son Die? - Michael Jackson : People.com

A three-hour autopsy of Michael Jackson on Friday turned up no signs of trauma and no foul play – and no final determination of what killed the King of Pop, leaving his family grasping for answers.

"That's what we're trying to find out right now," Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, told PEOPLE when asked about reports his son's death was tied to prescription drugs. "We're trying to find out that information. When we find it out, we'll know."

The elder Jackson hinted at troubles in the life of his son, who died Thursday at age 50 after suffering cardiac arrest at his Los Angeles home. "There's a lot to be told, though, I'll tell you that right now. The truth!" he says. "The truth is still to be told."


Additional Testing
He declined to elaborate, and an autopsy conducted Friday provided no clues. "The cause of death has been deferred," said Craig Harvey, operations chief for the Los Angeles County Coroner.

Additional testing, including a toxicology test for drugs in Jackson's system, will take another four to six weeks. "At that time, once those test results have been completed, we anticipate being able to close the case and issuing a final cause of death," said Harvey.

Based on the autopsy, "There was no indication of any external trauma or any indication of foul play on the body of Mr. Jackson," said Harvey. He said Jackson had been taking prescription medication, but declined to comment whether the drugs were linked to Jackson's death.

A coroner's official met with the Jackson family privately at the family compound to discuss the procedure. The body was set to be released to a mortuary Friday evening.