Michael Jackson Died at the age of 50

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Bottesini said:
But you overlook the possibility of someone who claims to be an abuse victim and then passionately defends an accused pedophile could have unresolved issues of wanting to see their abuser as not having really been bad.
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Try again. Nothing more than the ability to see a typical and predictable pattern.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I have been trying like crazy to walk a line of neutrality regarding the molestation charges, but I'm tired of doing so. I'm going simply state this. It's my belief that he was guilty, but no court convicted him of any wrong doing and that is something we all have to live with. I will not vilify him, but I won't defend him, either. Even IF he was innocent of the charges, he perpetrated the innuendo by the statements he made regarding the permissable sleeping with young children. That right there screams that he had a very warped perception and no one should condone or justify that. These were NOT his own children he was said to have had in his bed, but other parent's kids. That just screams pathology in my mind. Pedophilia? Who knows, but it's still just not something I would want to subject MY child to!
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I don't think anyone here believes that was a wise thing to do, an appropriate thing to do, or not the result of an extreme error in judgement. However, that, in and of itself, is not proof of molestation. That's the only point being made.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
jillio said:
Liebling:-))) said:
It´s exact my point. I as a parent would prefer to see justice over money.








'It could be his CURIOUSLY because he never see adult´s nude in his life.

My hubby & I are nude front of our teenage children as the same as they are nude front of us as well without touch each other. Are we pedophile or molester?'



I am really curious how you would had felt if your parents did the same with you! I think you are sick ! Yes I think you're pedophile! I hope you do not walk around nude when your kids's come over, and I bet if the parents knew about your famliy get together they would not want their kids at your home! I know I would not want any of my kids at your house!
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Cultural differences. Not all cultures relate nudity and sexuality as being inexplicably linked. And it certainly does not automatically make another person a pedophile.
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Oceanbreeze said:
I have been trying like crazy to walk a line of neutrality regarding the molestation charges, but I'm tired of doing so. I'm going simply state this. It's my belief that he was guilty, but no court convicted him of any wrong doing and that is something we all have to live with. I will not vilify him, but I won't defend him, either. Even IF he was innocent of the charges, he perpetrated the innuendo by the statements he made regarding the permissable sleeping with young children. That right there screams that he had a very warped perception and no one should condone or justify that. These were NOT his own children he was said to have had in his bed, but other parent's kids. That just screams pathology in my mind. Pedophilia? Who knows, but it's still just not something I would want to subject MY child to!
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jillio said:
What? You are saying that a child cannot accidently walk into a room where an adult male has just finished a shower and is getting dressed?
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It happens ALL the time...kids could accidentally walk into their parents' bathroom when they are showering or just finished showering, etc...
 
Steel X said:
It happens ALL the time...kids could accidentally walk into their parents' bathroom when they are showering or just finished showering, etc...
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Exactly. Doesn't make those parents guilty of molestation.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I am really curious how you would had felt if your parents did the same with you! I think you are sick ! Yes I think you're pedophile! I hope you do not walk around nude when your kids's come over, and I bet if the parents knew about your famliy get together they would not want their kids at your home!
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wow, very disrespectful !

Yes, we (my hubby, myself & sons) are nude when we walk from our bedrooms to bathroom for changed and get shower or bath.

Are you saying that nudity is bad, porn or what? Is nudity also belong porn.?

Many American ADers have same opinion as me. See this thread.

http://www.alldeaf.com/parenting/17113-normal.html

I know I would not want any of my kids at your house!
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No, I won´t trust to have your kids in my house case you would create lies and then sue me for money... :Ohno:
 
Babyblue said:
As a parent. I would be very upset if my children went to someones house and the adult there allowed them to see them in nude.
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Yes, I personally would never nude front of guests in my house especially myself, my hubby and boys only.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, I personally would never nude front of guests in my house especially myself, my hubby and boys only.
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And that is exactly what MJ did. Allowed his guest to see him in the nude.

He may have not molested them or anything. That is what made this issue a big deal. He acted inappropriately.


Regardless of his personal life. He was inevitably, The King of Pop!
 
Babyblue said:
And that is exactly what MJ did. Allowed his guest to see him in the nude.

He may have not molested them or anything. That is what made this issue a big deal. He acted inappropriately.


Regardless of his personal life. He was inevitably, The King of Pop!
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Bingo. His accomplishments are what he will ultimately be remembered for.
 
jillio said:
Bingo. His accomplishments are what he will ultimately be remembered for.
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Of course!

Just like I said in another thread. I did not even remember his hair catching on fire, 'til it was mentioned.
 
Babyblue said:
And that is exactly what MJ did. Allowed his guest to see him in the nude.

He may have not molested them or anything. That is what made this issue a big deal. He acted inappropriately.
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Yes I has to agree with you over his inappropriately behavior but I don´t beleive that he is a child molester and pedophile what the media created out of him.

Regardless of his personal life. He was inevitably, The King of Pop!
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Exactly

R.I.P. Michael Jackson.
 
I wonder if his face will still look the same in 5 years.....:whistle:
 
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