Lies about CI's

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faire_jour said:
For my daughter it was the CI. She went from understand zero in the booth to testing at 96%, in less than a year. How can that be anything other than the device?
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Are you talking about speech or just hearing? Hearing, well just like seeing, you just do.
 
deafbajagal said:
Please clarify for me...are you saying, once your daughter was implanted, there was no therapy or intervention whatsoever between the time she was implanted to the time she was tested?

96% in what? speech recognition? auditory recognition?
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No, it was the exact same therapy and therapist she had been using since she was 2. The same school, the same home enviroment, everything was the same, except what she used to hear.

It was speech discrimination testing using very similar words (gum vs gun).
 
faire_jour said:
Not true. My daughter has picked up words and phrases from over hearing when I am on the phone, from other kids and even from the TV.
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It's true. There's a deaf guy and his deaf wife whose son was implanted at 2 years old (now 7 or 8 years old) were able to pick up phrases from other people and have no problem speaking on the phone. The father is getting ready to have his CI this year while his wife already got one. Their daughter's hearing doesn't qualify for CI so she wears a hearing aid. They are all fluent in ASL. And the boy attends school without the need for interpreter, too.
 
The CI is like a fancy car. But it cannot run by itself. You need gas and a driver who is ready. Gas is the therapy...sometimes you need to keep filling it up before the car is ready to go. In the meantime the driver has to be ready, too.

I've seen cars with fuel, ready to go. But the driver isn't ready. I've seen cars with drivers, but no fuel.

Not all of us are meant to be car drivers. Some deaf children has to take a different route.

Your daughter is a natural driver...and she's ready to go! ZOOM. Many children with CIs need more fuel, or they are simply not ready. And some, no matter how hard they try, they will never be able to drive the car. I don't know if my analogy makes sense or not.
 
yes... because it's impossible to ignore sounds if you were aided. So she heard before, but it probably wasn't clear to her. But with CI, all those sounds she heard made sense to her which is why she probably learned very fast.
 
deafbajagal said:
The CI is like a fancy car. But it cannot run by itself. You need gas and a driver who is ready. Gas is the therapy...sometimes you need to keep filling it up before the car is ready to go. In the meantime the driver has to be ready, too.

I've seen cars with fuel, ready to go. But the driver isn't ready. I've seen cars with drivers, but no fuel.

Not all of us are meant to be car drivers. Some deaf children has to take a different route.

Your daughter is a natural driver...and she's ready to go! ZOOM. Many children with CIs need more fuel, or they are simply not ready. And some, no matter how hard they try, they will never be able to drive the car. I don't know if my analogy makes sense or not.
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It makes sense.
 
deafgal001 said:
yes... because it's impossible to ignore sounds if you were aided. So she heard before, but it probably wasn't clear to her. But with CI, all those sounds she heard made sense to her.
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She did not understand and then she did. She could not tell the difference between "Those boots are dirty" and "sit down". She could not understand anything that we said without signing (except her name). Then she got the implant and she started to understand. She didn't change. Her access to sound changed. It was a difference of night and day.
 
I have a good friend who is oral deaf. He can speak almost like a hearing person, almost perfect. All his life he wore hearing aids. Two years ago he got a CI. He went to therapy, etc. to get used to it.

He tells me that it doesn't work for him. His brain simply cannot interpret sounds the way he wanted it to. The CI specialist just shrugged his shoulders and said, "It wasn't meant to be."

Another friend of mine is very easily his twin. They are alike in many ways, and she also wanted a CI. She got one and almost immediately loved it. She now is getting another one.

It puzzles me how some people benefits from it, and others don't. They keep telling me, some people are wired for it...some are not.

I think this is what some of the posters are talking about when they say they want a "guarantee" that this will work before they choose it for themselves or for their child.
 
deafbajagal said:
The CI is like a fancy car. But it cannot run by itself. You need gas and a driver who is ready. Gas is the therapy...sometimes you need to keep filling it up before the car is ready to go. In the meantime the driver has to be ready, too.

I've seen cars with fuel, ready to go. But the driver isn't ready. I've seen cars with drivers, but no fuel.

Not all of us are meant to be car drivers. Some deaf children has to take a different route.

Your daughter is a natural driver...and she's ready to go! ZOOM. Many children with CIs need more fuel, or they are simply not ready. And some, no matter how hard they try, they will never be able to drive the car. I don't know if my analogy makes sense or not.
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But what happens if you never let the child in the car?
 
faire_jour said:
She did not understand and then she did. She could not tell the difference between "Those boots are dirty" and "sit down". She could not understand anything that we said without signing (except her name). Then she got the implant and she started to understand. She didn't change. Her access to sound changed. It was a difference of night and day.
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so what did she do with all those sounds she heard with her hearing aids? Ignore it?
 
The key here is early intervention. Li got her CI at 2 years old and not at 5 or 6 years old then it'd be a whole different story. This is true for all babies born with a hearing loss, the key is to get the sound to them early as possible. We are born wired with our auditory cortex ready to go after birth on receiving sound and for our brain to make sense of it.
 
deafbajagal said:
I have a good friend who is oral deaf. He can speak almost like a hearing person, almost perfect. All his life he wore hearing aids. Two years ago he got a CI. He went to therapy, etc. to get used to it.

He tells me that it doesn't work for him. His brain simply cannot interpret sounds the way he wanted it to. The CI specialist just shrugged his shoulders and said, "It wasn't meant to be."

Another friend of mine is very easily his twin. They are alike in many ways, and she also wanted a CI. She got one and almost immediately loved it. She now is getting another one.

It puzzles me.
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They are adults. Adults have very different outcomes depending on the cause of deafness, what they heard before, how they communicate and so on.
 
do you know any that was implanted at 5 or 6 years old that did terrible?
 
deafbajagal said:
I have a good friend who is oral deaf. He can speak almost like a hearing person, almost perfect. All his life he wore hearing aids. Two years ago he got a CI. He went to therapy, etc. to get used to it.

He tells me that it doesn't work for him. His brain simply cannot interpret sounds the way he wanted it to. The CI specialist just shrugged his shoulders and said, "It wasn't meant to be."

Another friend of mine is very easily his twin. They are alike in many ways, and she also wanted a CI. She got one and almost immediately loved it. She now is getting another one.

It puzzles me how some people benefits from it, and others don't. They keep telling me, some people are wired for it...some are not.

I think this is what some of the posters are talking about when they say they want a "guarantee" that this will work before they choose it for themselves or for their child.
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They have a guarantee that if they don't do it, it won't work!
 
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