Legal Showdown - Arizona's Immigration Law

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kokonut said:
It's about keeping the jobs going. It's about expanding to add more jobs with the money available. The govt isn't helping this.
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If jobs don't want to offers so government has no choice.

Are you trying to soften on my upset over government? lol.
 
That is why Arizona just passed this law. Just a state version of the government version that they are not enforcing so we have to find a way to do it ourselves. You know the saying, if you want something done do it yourself.
 
Rampratt said:
That is why Arizona just passed this law. Just a state version of the government version that they are not enforcing so we have to find a way to do it ourselves. You know the saying, if you want something done do it yourself.
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but they can't even deport the illegals
 
O yes we can and do but just don't have enough resources to send them back and so darn many I's to dot and T's to cross that they are coming in faster than we can send them back and besides it costs a lot of money to process and transport. Be nice if some of you folks would send us some money to help with the expenses. I'm sure the government would accept it and put it in general funds so they can have a big party somewhere or maybe buy a new plane? Right now they are asking us to pass a tax bill to keep schools open. If they can assure me that the money will ONLY go for schools I'm all for it but from past experience it will end up in some politicians pocket with a small percentage going where it was supposed to go. Shame.
 
Rampratt said:
O yes we can and do but just don't have enough resources to send them back and so darn many I's to dot and T's to cross that they are coming in faster than we can send them back and besides it costs a lot of money to process and transport. Be nice if some of you folks would send us some money to help with the expenses.
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no you can't. and you don't have enough resources and money but federal government does? for 50 states?
 
Please tell them to get busy. We've been waiting for quite some time. So far very poor results. numbers speak for themselves. Sorry I don't agree. Federal government is broke! 127 trillion in debt last I heard. over 100K for every family in the country. No way it will ever get paid back.
 
Rampratt said:
Please tell them to get busy. We've been waiting for quite some time. So far very poor results. numbers speak for themselves.
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what numbers? where?
 
Well may have been a bit wrong on the debt. as of about 5 min ago it was $12,941,948,635,216.22
 
OK a little time has passed so the debt is now $12,941,954,070,007.68
From national debt clock.
 
Rampratt said:
Well may have been a bit wrong on the debt. as of about 5 min ago it was $12,941,948,635,216.22
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Rampratt said:
OK a little time has passed so the debt is now $12,941,954,070,007.68
From national debt clock.
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but didn't you tell us to get busy and answer every single call to pick up the illegals?
 
Jiro said:
yup.

"oops! I'm sorry I didn't know because he had these documents!!" - sorry but it's employer's fault for contributing to our illegal immigration problem. All it takes is few bucks to run the criminal background check and other stuff. Better that than paying $$$$$$$$ to illegals for several months who will just disappear upon discovery by IRS notification to employer.
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Sorry it doesn't work that way. I did do background on ALL employees. It was required by my insurance. Unless the numbers they stole were from a criminal OR the identity theft was reported, the background check comes back clean. I did check references but those are pretty easy to fake as well. I even checked credit.....but again in most cases the ID is stolen so a credit history will show up.

Anything more than that an employer can be sued. And I have been sued.

If the federal government would just do it's job and secure the border this wouldn't be a problem.

AZ may be making a mistake. But atleast they are trying to protect their residents. That is more than we can say for the federal government
 
TXgolfer said:
Sorry it doesn't work that way. I did do background on ALL employees. It was required by my insurance. Unless the numbers they stole were from a criminal OR the identity theft was reported, the background check comes back clean. I did check references but those are pretty easy to fake as well. I even checked credit.....but again in most cases the ID is stolen so a credit history will show up.

Anything more than that an employer can be sued. And I have been sued.

If the federal government would just do it's job and secure the border this wouldn't be a problem.

AZ may be making a mistake. But atleast they are trying to protect their residents. That is more than we can say for the federal government
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yea I'm sorry too that it doesn't work that way either.
 
Jiro said:
but they can't even deport the illegals
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Be interesting to see what happened if they tried......

Instead of calling ICE they should just bus them to the border.
 
TXgolfer said:
Sorry it doesn't work that way. I did do background on ALL employees. It was required by my insurance. Unless the numbers they stole were from a criminal OR the identity theft was reported, the background check comes back clean. I did check references but those are pretty easy to fake as well. I even checked credit.....but again in most cases the ID is stolen so a credit history will show up.

Anything more than that an employer can be sued. And I have been sued.

If the federal government would just do it's job and secure the border this wouldn't be a problem.

AZ may be making a mistake. But atleast they are trying to protect their residents. That is more than we can say for the federal government
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And it took a person with business experience to explain all this, too. Thanks TXgolfer. This is exactly what my aunt and her husband do each year when they hire cherry pickers on their farm in Oregon. There is so much can do (or cannot do). It is a bit of travesty there. And hasn't worked much to its potential.

How's your head now?
 
Foxrac said:
Why are you trying to find anything that is inhuman and threat to wild animals; and hikers whoever legally to hike in near border. Shoot the illegal immigrants, put minefields on border and put robotic bees are just inhuman.
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I have never laughed harder. Robotic bees were part of the stimulus pkg.....lol. I never said land mines. I wouldn't oppose them though. Good deterrent. I also support a canal of razor wire which has been mentioned. The border needs to be sealed
 
kokonut said:
And it took a person with business experience to explain all this, too. Thanks TXgolfer. This is exactly what my aunt and her husband do each year when they hire cherry pickers on their farm in Oregon. There is so much can do (or cannot do). It is a bit of travesty there. And hasn't worked much to its potential.

How's your head now?
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Much better now thx. Just have to do my computer time in small doses. The light causes headaches.
 
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