Ladies: would you vote for Palin?

[rockdrummer]

One of the many problems I see with the American electoral process is the Human factor. Forget about leadership skills, there are many that will decide their vote because Barak is black or because Sarah is a woman. Not to mention the lemmings that will vote their party regardless of the issues. Scares the crap out of me.

 

[Angel]

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August 1, 2008 -- State wildlife agency personnel staked out a known wolf denning site -- a practice that is illegal under Alaska law -- and, using helicopters, they gunned down 14 adult wolves from the air, part of an effort to boost caribou populations in Southwest Alaska.

When they landed, they found 14 helpless pups in the nearby dens -- just weeks old -- and methodically shot each one in the head. Twenty-eight wolves gunned down in all.

14 helpless pups

 

[Cheri]

I find odd that Palin is pro-lifer and support for kill animals for trophy and sport hunting.

She's a pro-life on human life from fertilization through natural death. Animals are not humans.

 

[Maria]

One of the many problems I see with the American electoral process is the Human factor. Forget about leadership skills, there are many that will decide their vote because Barak is black or because Sarah is a woman. Not to mention the lemmings that will vote their party regardless of the issues. Scares the crap out of me.

It's why I mentioned earlier in my previous posts about chosin' the right choices otherwise consequences.

 

[Reba]

I guess you didn't understand what I was saying. Read up on culling herds, etc which are government sponsored programs.

Kinda strange people some of you are: You bash Palin for killing animals and you bash her for not wanting to kill human babies. Maybe the wrong species are being culled? *Tousi slapping self*

 

[Liebling:-)))]

She's a pro-life on human life from fertilization through natural death. Animals are not humans.

But you agree with Tousi´s comparison... *shrug*

 

[Liebling:-)))]

no... I'm saying the activists are twisting it to make it looks cruel and unnecessary. Too bad they won't show the video of overpopulation of predators, increased incidents of encounter between predators and humans, dangerously low population of preys...

beside.... what are you worried about? for regular hunters - it is illegal to hunt from planes. it is illegal to hunt animals during off-hunting season. it is illegal to hunt more than allocated limit. it is illegal to hunt protected species.

Tousi´s post
It is true AND it is either a government shooter or a shooter contracted by the government to cull the herds. The shooter is not a citizen hunter (unless he is one but doing it illegally).

for explanation but accord the links that Palin support to hunt wolves by plane.

 

[Tousi]

14 helpless pups

From an emotional point of view, of course they were helpless, blah, blah but, again, this was an activity by wildlife personnel for the purpose of culling the herds, not an activity they enjoy doing. If they didn't do this, the animals would suffer if left alone or human populations, ranches, etc would be affected.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Lieblin',

Okay, you want the link about Alaska's Heritage/History ? I want you to read everythin' that are in that link. It will explain everythin' you want to know. It's not about Palin, but Alaska life itself.

Alaska History and Cultural Studies - Alaska's Heritage - CHAPTER 1-1: GEOLOGICAL AND GLACIAL HISTORY

The second link is not workin'. Will have to find other one that's workin'. Will get that one for you shortly.

Okay, here's a 2nd link: Please, read.

About Tougher in Alaska - History.com

for interesting link... I will re-read them tomorrow. Alaska is a beautiful and nature country. I can understand why Alaskans protest against Palin´s plan for oil drilling in Alaska. Let me re-read your links properly tomorrow and will let you know what I think.

 

[Angel]

Maria should have said it is easier, faster, cheaper to do this LEGAL (culling) activity, sponsored by the State's Dept of Fish and Game Dept. I can try to explain more via some other examples in Ohio if you want....

Oh, and welcome back; what took you so long? Hahaha

Yeah I know but still..... alright, I won't say no more...

 

[Tousi]

for explanation but accord the links that Palin support to hunt wolves by plane.

Yes, she supported it because that is the law, it is the culling program in action. It is not because she takes great pleasure in this! It is a grim but necessary business and does not last long. Your statement is still misleading.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

14 helpless pups

I´m too soft and weak for baby animals...

 

[Reba]

...
Anyway, the comparison you made is a fallacious because mothers do not shoot to kill human babies but fetus removal.

You're right that they don't shoot human babies. They chemically burn them to death or chop them into little pieces inside the mother's womb.

 

[Jiro]

Yes, she supported it because that is the law, it is the culling program in action. It is not because she takes great pleasure in this! It is a grim but necessary business and does not last long. Your statement is still misleading.

There is also an issue with budget. We all know wildlife control agency have limited budget. Culling by on foot or contracting hunters are a colossal waste of money and time.

Forget about culling and baby wolves for a brief moment... Think about the impact of overpopulation of predators. This is a serious issue and a very negative environmental impact on Alaska's sensitive eco-system.

 

[Jiro]

I´m too soft and weak for baby animals...

it's ok. it's really necessary to do it. 14 helpless pups with no mother... how are they going to live? It's ok. this is humane as well.

 

[Angel]

I´m too soft and weak for baby animals...

What about fetus?..(Sorry I couldn't help myself)...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Yes, she supported it because that is the law, it is the culling program in action. It is not because she takes great pleasure in this! It is a grim but necessary business and does not last long. Your statement is still misleading.

But the Defender of Wildlife including many Alaskans see different.

The statement is not from me but I pick reliable websites to compare with Alaska´s websites... the comparison is the similar before post here... Alaskans ask us to spread the information out to support them. I see why not because I protect from kill animals including baby animals.

 

[Cheri]

What about fetus?..(Sorry I couldn't help myself)...

Lol!!! Good one.

 

[Jiro]

But the Defender of Wildlife including many Alaskans see different.

The statement is not from me but I pick reliable websites to compare with Alaska´s websites... the comparison is the similar before post here... Alaskans ask us to spread the information out to support them. I see why not because I protect from kill animals including baby animals.

those are not "reliable" websites. Those are animal activist groups who care nothing about the balance of Alaska's sensitive eco-system and the consequences caused by predators. If they are really the "Defender" of Wildlife - surely they'll understand why culling is necessary as it's to preserve the eco-system.

A more appropriate name should be "Wolfie Group"

 

[Tousi]

those are not "reliable" websites. Those are animal activist groups who care nothing about the balance of Alaska's sensitive eco-system and the consequences caused by predators. If they are really the "Defender" of Wildlife - surely they'll understand why culling is necessary as it's to preserve the eco-system.

A more appropriate name should be "Wolfie Group"

That's right, Jiro. If those activists had their way, in the long run, they would be crueler to these animals than what culling does.