Israel Vows to Expand Gaza Airstrikes as Death Toll Passes 200

[Reba]

How can the Palestinians get away from the Israeli bombings when their border is sealed by the Israeli's?

Do they have to stand out on the streets and on rooftops to gawk at explosions? No.

What Israel is doing now is nothing but short of euthansia of the Palestinians.

Mercy killing? That's a bizarre approach.

If you lived in Gaza and see that the Israeli's have the best of everything and you have nothing. Electricity, better health care, etc, etc....wouldn't you be a little pissed?

Yeah, I'd be pissed at my so-called leaders for keeping us in such a mess.

The land of Israel was not flowing with milk and honey when it became a nation in 1948. The Israelis worked very hard to develop their land. The aid that the Palestinians have received has been squandered and stolen by their leaders.

And secondly for those that are defending Israel--how can you justify their actions considering that the International American Red Cross has scolded Israel for their humanitarian treatment of the Palestinians?

Which actions? Your statement is muddled. Is it International Red Cross or American Red Cross? Or Red Crescent in Muslim countries. Is Israel's treatment of Palestinians humanitarian or inhumane?

 

[Reba]

They poisoned the Native Americans at their first feast. Is that a lie? :P

Yes.

 

[Reba]

The "good Palenstinian people" may disagree with you on whom the true oppressor is.

What have their leaders ever done for them?

 

[Reba]

Cast off the shackles of Hamas oppression? Remember that in form of democracy--the Palestinians elected the Hamas to represent them.

Then they can vote them out, too, if they want their situation to improve.

We don't like who the Russians elected into power but at least we work with their government....

Have the Russians been bombing us or sending suicide bombers into our cities?

 

[jillio]

Do they have to stand out on the streets and on rooftops to gawk at explosions? No.

Oh, I see. Its the Palenstinians fault for being on their own danged roof tops. They should know better! If they just stayed inside and knew their place, they wouldn't get killed.:roll:


Mercy killing? That's a bizarre approach.

Euthanasia is not just mercy killing, unless you believe that one should be killed as a result of their race or religious affiliation to put them out of their own misery.
Yeah, I'd be pissed at my so-called leaders for keeping us in such a mess.

The land of Israel was not flowing with milk and honey when it became a nation in 1948. The Israelis worked very hard to develop their land. The aid that the Palestinians have received has been squandered and stolen by their leaders.

Well, then! Just let the Palestinians work harder while they try to avoid the bombing.:roll:

Which actions? Your statement is muddled. Is it International Red Cross or American Red Cross? Or Red Crescent in Muslim countries. Is Israel's treatment of Palestinians humanitarian or inhumane?

It is obvious that Byrdie mean inhumane. :roll:

 

[jillio]

What have their leaders ever done for them?

From your perspective, nothing. However, you cannot pronounce judgement based on your own cultural perspective. Evidently, they see the need for Hamas, or they would not have elected them. Which tells me that their idea of the "real oppressor" and your idea of the "real oppressor" are, in all likelihood, two very different definitions.

And, since they are not voting them out, they obviously do not agree with your solution to improve their situation, either.

 

[SeanB]

The only chance Hamas has of surviving its current battle with Israel, is to stir up enough anger against Israel to force the Israelis to stop fighting, and enter into a ceasefire agreement that Hamas can easily subvert - like usual. This Information War campaign is not going well for Hamas. While there are demonstrations in Moslem countries, and in the West as well, they are not as numerous or as spirited as in the past. Worse, most Arab countries are either lukewarm in their criticism of Israel, or openly blame Hamas for the current round of fighting.

There are several trends going on here. First, most Moslem nations have had it with Islamic terrorism. Even before September 11, 2001, the current round of Islamic terrorism was unpopular in Moslem countries where Islamic terrorists had already been operating. The al Qaeda campaign in Iraq was particularly demoralizing to Moslems worldwide. Al Qaeda revealed itself to be more capable, and willing, to kill Moslem civilians, than non-Moslem troops. Al Qaeda made things worse by bragging about non-existent successes and claiming that victory was inevitable. By 2007, it was obvious that al Qaeda had been defeated, and even al Qaeda eventually admitted it. Now Hamas is asking Moslems to buy into another campaign, just like the failed al Qaeda effort. A lot of Moslems are not taking the bait, despite efforts by Arab media organizations to make it appear otherwise.

Second, Hamas is seen as counterproductive to Moslem goals. That raises another problem. What exactly are "Moslem goals." To the Islamic radicals, it's turning the world into one big Islamic state. To Islamic moderates (or just "non-radicals") it's getting Moslems in general a little more respect. Islam, as a religion/culture, is not big on introspection and taking responsibility for failure. But the Islamic world has lower economic and educational achievement than the rest of the world, and a lot of that is a direct result of some Islamic practices (no education for women, or working outside the home, and general resistance to new ideas and technology). An increasing number of Moslems are beginning to question these traditional practices, and are hostile to the old school attitudes espoused by Hamas.

Third, there is the Iranian connection Hamas has developed. Iran is another Islamic state, but one that opposes the majority (80 percent of Moslems) Sunni sect of Islam. The Iranians champion Shia Islam (ten percent of all Moslems). Nearly all Palestinian Moslems are Sunni, and many are uncomfortable with this Shia connection, as well as the failed radicalism of the Shia clergy that run Iran (as a religious dictatorship which calls itself an "Islamic republic.")

Hamas is seen as a spoiler, an organization that concentrates on destruction, rather than trying to build something positive. While most Moslems back the destruction of Israel and killing of Jews, if only because of decades of anti-Israel and anti-Semitic propaganda, most also prefer the Fatah approach to dealing with Israel (lie and cheat all you have to in order to establish a separate Palestinian state). Actually, more Moslems are coming to accept Israel, and are not supporting a genocide of all Jews. Hamas is backing the wrong trends.

 

[Reba]

Oh, I see. Its the Palenstinians fault for being on their own danged roof tops. They should know better! If they just stayed inside and knew their place, they wouldn't get killed.

When rockets are in the skies over Israel, the people stay indoors, cover themselves, and lie on the floor. Palestinians can do the same thing.

Euthanasia is not just mercy killing...

According to dictionaries:

eu⋅tha⋅na⋅sia
1. Also called mercy killing. the act of putting to death painlessly or allowing to die, as by withholding extreme medical measures, a person or animal suffering from an incurable, esp. a painful, disease or condition.
2. painless death.

n. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.

[Greek euthanasiā, a good death : eu-, eu- + thanatos, death.]

euthanasia
1606, from Gk. euthanasia "an easy or happy death," from eu- "good" + thanatos "death." Sense of "legally sanctioned mercy killing" is first recorded in Eng. 1869.

euthanasia
noun
the act of killing someone painlessly (especially someone suffering from an incurable illness)

euthanasia
The act or practice of painlessly ending the life of an animal or a willing individual who has a terminal illness or incurable condition, as by giving a lethal drug.

Painlessly putting someone to death — usually someone with an incurable and painful disease; mercy killing.

euthanasia eu·tha·na·sia
n.

1. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.
2. A quiet, painless death.

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing hopelesslysick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy; also : the act or practice of allowing a hopelessly sick or injuredpatient to die by taking less than complete medical measures to prolong life called also mercy killing

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured persons in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy called also mercy killing

unless you believe that one should be killed as a result of their race or religious affiliation to put them out of their own misery.

No, I don't. That's why I thought it was a bizarre statement.

Well, then! Just let the Palestinians work harder while they try to avoid the bombing.

There wouldn't be any bombing if they didn't support terrorist leaders who continually attack Israel. They could also have more material things and better infrastructure if their leaders would quit stealing their aid money to use for their own lifestyles and supporting terrorism.

 

[Reba]

From your perspective, nothing. However, you cannot pronounce judgement based on your own cultural perspective.

What cultural perspective sees robbery of its people by its leaders as a "good thing? Do you really expect me to believe that the people prefer their leaders acquire personal wealth while they live in squalor?

Evidently, they see the need for Hamas, or they would not have elected them.

It's called propaganda and intimidation.

Which tells me that their idea of the "real oppressor" and your idea of the "real oppressor" are, in all likelihood, two very different definitions.

Then sadly, they are stuck. As long as they follow and support terrorists, they will suffer.

And, since they are not voting them out, they obviously do not agree with your solution to improve their situation, either.

Then they will have to live with the consequences. That is very sad.

 

[Jiro]

Have the Russians been bombing us or sending suicide bombers into our cities?

they have no need to do such lowly thing. they simply flexed their muscle at us. Chechnya situation. oil oil oil. aggressive acquisition of disputed territory. doing the business with nations that USA does not like. veto power.

 

[jillio]

What cultural perspective sees robbery of its people by its leaders as a "good thing? Do you really expect me to believe that the people prefer their leaders acquire personal wealth while they live in squalor?


It's called propaganda and intimidation.


Then sadly, they are stuck. As long as they follow and support terrorists, they will suffer.


Then they will have to live with the consequences. That is very sad.

Well, of course I don't expect you to believe it, Reba. It is very difficult for one to recognize their own ethnocentric perspective.

 

[jillio]

When rockets are in the skies over Israel, the people stay indoors, cover themselves, and lie on the floor. Palestinians can do the same thing.



According to dictionaries:

eu⋅tha⋅na⋅sia
1. Also called mercy killing. the act of putting to death painlessly or allowing to die, as by withholding extreme medical measures, a person or animal suffering from an incurable, esp. a painful, disease or condition.
2. painless death.

n. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.

[Greek euthanasiā, a good death : eu-, eu- + thanatos, death.]

euthanasia
1606, from Gk. euthanasia "an easy or happy death," from eu- "good" + thanatos "death." Sense of "legally sanctioned mercy killing" is first recorded in Eng. 1869.

euthanasia
noun
the act of killing someone painlessly (especially someone suffering from an incurable illness)

euthanasia
The act or practice of painlessly ending the life of an animal or a willing individual who has a terminal illness or incurable condition, as by giving a lethal drug.

Painlessly putting someone to death — usually someone with an incurable and painful disease; mercy killing.

euthanasia eu·tha·na·sia
n.

1. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.
2. A quiet, painless death.

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing hopelesslysick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy; also : the act or practice of allowing a hopelessly sick or injuredpatient to die by taking less than complete medical measures to prolong life called also mercy killing

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured persons in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy called also mercy killing


No, I don't. That's why I thought it was a bizarre statement.



There wouldn't be any bombing if they didn't support terrorist leaders who continually attack Israel. They could also have more material things and better infrastructure if their leaders would quit stealing their aid money to use for their own lifestyles and supporting terrorism.

Well, of course they could. It's all their own fault, isn't it? Danged Muslim influence!

 

[jillio]

When rockets are in the skies over Israel, the people stay indoors, cover themselves, and lie on the floor. Palestinians can do the same thing.



According to dictionaries:

eu⋅tha⋅na⋅sia
1. Also called mercy killing. the act of putting to death painlessly or allowing to die, as by withholding extreme medical measures, a person or animal suffering from an incurable, esp. a painful, disease or condition.
2. painless death.

n. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.

[Greek euthanasiā, a good death : eu-, eu- + thanatos, death.]

euthanasia
1606, from Gk. euthanasia "an easy or happy death," from eu- "good" + thanatos "death." Sense of "legally sanctioned mercy killing" is first recorded in Eng. 1869.

euthanasia
noun
the act of killing someone painlessly (especially someone suffering from an incurable illness)

euthanasia
The act or practice of painlessly ending the life of an animal or a willing individual who has a terminal illness or incurable condition, as by giving a lethal drug.

Painlessly putting someone to death — usually someone with an incurable and painful disease; mercy killing.

euthanasia eu·tha·na·sia
n.

1. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.
2. A quiet, painless death.

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing hopelesslysick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy; also : the act or practice of allowing a hopelessly sick or injuredpatient to die by taking less than complete medical measures to prolong life called also mercy killing

Main Entry: eu·tha·na·sia
Function: noun
: the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured persons in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy called also mercy killing


No, I don't. That's why I thought it was a bizarre statement.



There wouldn't be any bombing if they didn't support terrorist leaders who continually attack Israel. They could also have more material things and better infrastructure if their leaders would quit stealing their aid money to use for their own lifestyles and supporting terrorism.

Well, dang it! If they would just behave as the Israelis and do what the Israelis tell them to do, they'd be just fine now, wouldn't they?

 

[Hear Again]

Well, dang it! If they would just behave as the Israelis and do what the Israelis tell them to do, they'd be just fine now, wouldn't they?

those darn palestinians never learn, do they?

 

[jillio]

those darn palestinians never learn, do they?

I guess they don't! Let's just kill them all! They deserve it.

 

[Jiro]

I guess they don't! Let's just kill them all! They deserve it.

**I will describe the pix in a moment.

 

[Beowulf]

*muttering*
So Pilgrims didn't poison Native Americans at the first feast...
But didn't Pilgrims feel entitled to a land that wasn't theirs?

 

[jillio]

 

[Jiro]

there are 6 picture boxes.

1. several Israeli warplanes were bombing on Palestinian town
2. the sky is cleared... the town's burning and smoking..
3. all of sudden - several more Israeli missiles came out to bomb some more at same town
4. Hamas fired 1 rocket back at them
5. Israeli said - "that's it...... No more Mr. nice guy"
6. Israeli sent in more warplanes and more missiles to bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb more

 

[Reba]

Well, of course I don't expect you to believe it, Reba. It is very difficult for one to recognize their own ethnocentric perspective.

So what ethnicity prefers poverty and terrorism?