Hearies view on a CI kid... its a bummer

[jag]

Cannot hear with HAs? So it is all in my head that I am hearing things? Oh my gosh!!!! I am hearing voices, cars, airplanes, music, and more...I have been lied to!!! So my HAs were a fraud? Wow! They did a good job fooling me.

Ah Shel, ya know my loss was in the severe range (lower part) reverse slope to. And I could sometimes hear voices, cars (when walking on my country road they'd be going by me from behind BEFORE I heard them, music (alot of it was awful tho) and I couldn't hear the sirens coming down the street. As with CI's the range of 'success' is different. Or perhaps its the indiviuduals idea of what a 'successful' outcome is. Mine wasn't really all that successful IMO. (with the HA's) You think yours is. To each their own.

 

[shel90]

Ah Shel, ya know my loss was in the severe range (lower part) reverse slope to. And I could sometimes hear voices, cars (when walking on my country road they'd be going by me from behind BEFORE I heard them, music (alot of it was awful tho) and I couldn't hear the sirens coming down the street. As with CI's the range of 'success' is different. Or perhaps its the indiviuduals idea of what a 'successful' outcome is. Mine wasn't really all that successful IMO. You think yours is. To each their own.

True.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

I have taken several audiology classes so I know what my HAs can or cant do. I was being silly. I guess I should have added the "LOL" at the end, huh?

Well I thought you were serious. Did i really deserved that?

Does that really matter? As long as communication is happening, who really cares unless people worry about that too much. I stopped caring a long time ago after years of worrying about making my speech very perfect. I do the best I can do and if hearing people have a problem with that, oh well but fortunately, most of them dont.

In this aspect no, of course not but if someone is trying to say a born deaf can speak as normal as a hearing person then I disagree.

Fuzzy

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Remember also that she deems herself qualified to criticize other parents on their language and communications choices for their children--children and parents she has never met.

Exactly. But point that out, and you will be told to pull away your "crack pipe" again.

Fuzzy

 

[shel90]

Well I thought you were serious. Did i really deserved that?

Deserve what?
In this aspect no, of course not but if someone is trying to say a born deaf can speak as normal as a hearing person then I disagree.

Fuzzy

Ok got it.

 

[Angel]

I would have to disagree about "anyone" cuz my brother was born with the same bilateral hearing loss like mine, put in the same oral-only program that I went to for 5 years, came from the same home life, and was just as sharp as I was if not more, but yet after 5 years of hours and hours in that oral-only program with the same teachers I had, he was unable to develop any speech nor lipreading skills. Nobody knows why..it all depends on how we process information..he just processed it differently than I do and as a result, he was deprived of a language.

Ah interesting, you're correct I shouldn't say anyone, thanks for sharing me about your brother, real sorry to hear about that....

 

[shel90]

Ah interesting, you're correct I shouldn't say anyone, thanks for sharing me about your brother, real sorry to hear about that....

He is happy..he is going to grad school and working as a PE teacher. Very involved with Deaf culture especially with theatre.

 

[Angel]

He is happy..he is going to grad school and working as a PE teacher. Very involved with Deaf culture especially with theatre.

I'm very glad to hear that Shel, and glad to hear hes is happy 2

 

[jillio]

Cannot hear with HAs? So it is all in my head that I am hearing things? Oh my gosh!!!! I am hearing voices, cars, airplanes, music, and more...I have been lied to!!! So my HAs were a fraud? Wow! They did a good job fooling me.

Yep, all in your head, shel! You must be schizophrenic!

 

[jillio]

Exactly. But point that out, and you will be told to pull away your "crack pipe" again.

Fuzzy

Uhhhh...that's put away his crack pipe, fuzzy. If you're going to use my lines, at least get 'em right.

 

[shel90]

Yep, all in your head, shel! You must be schizophrenic!

Yea, I know! I didnt realize that until Cloggy pointed that out about deaf people not being able to hear with HAs. That is just sooooo fascinating how my HAs were a cover-up!

 

[jillio]

I, on the other hand, have been severely profoundly deaf since birth and I can speak very well with almost anyone. The problem occurs is when others start speaking to me too fast thinking I can hear better than I do cuz the misconception of better speech skills equalizing to better hearing.

Yep, that's another down fall of assuming the two are correlated.

 

[jillio]

And what do you call exercising YOUR opinon over your deaf baby who was at a time unable to make choice for himself? Don't make me laugh....


Fuzzy

I call it allowinghim to develop his own identity independent of my own selfish needs for him to be hearing and speaking.

I doubt seriously that anything can make you laugh, fuzzy. You're too angry and bitter.

 

[jillio]

yeah, and we all know how the deaf "speak".
A hearing person can tell if not right away then after a short time that something is not right with speech.
very few deaf people can pronunce perfectly. More often this is possible with HoH, and certainly late deafened.

Fuzzy

Do you resent the fact that people can tell you are deaf when you speak, fuzzy?

 

[jillio]

Nobody is advocating that to the deaf children, get ahold of your imagination.
Maybe the extreme audist do, but I don't see them here.
And correct me if if I'm wrong but isn't AVT a thing where the children are forced to learn what's being said without lips showing- (the one somebody is crying about) -one of a therapies for the HAided deaf kids?
wasn't your son jill in AVT at Bill Wilkersons?

Yep, and that's why I withdrew him from the program. Nor did I follow the rules....I took him to the League after his sessions where he was exposed to deaf people and native signers. If you are going to tell my story for me, fuzzy, tell all of it.

 

[jillio]

Correct fuzzy and she has yet to answer why, if as she called AVT "cruel", she subjected her son to that form of therapy in the first place, actively participated in it and continued to send her son to a form of therapy she found "cruel".

Remember also that she deems herself qualified to criticize other parents on their language and communications choices for their children--children and parents she has never met.
Rick

There you go again. Another visit to the crack pipe! At least I didn'ty slap a CI on my kid without any follow up auditory therapy. And, it didn't take me long to figure out that AVT was not the way to go and that a deaf child needed a visual language. You still haven't figured that out.

 

[jillio]

He is happy..he is going to grad school and working as a PE teacher. Very involved with Deaf culture especially with theatre.

Damn! You mean Deaf people can achieve as much success as a hearing person without being able to speak? Dang!

 

[Audiofuzzy]

I call it allowinghim to develop his own identity independent of my own selfish needs for him to be hearing and speaking.

yep- ALLOWING.

Fuzzy

 

[jillio]

yep- ALLOWING.

Fuzzy

Yes, fuzzy, allowing. Look up the meaning of the word. Has nothingto do with forcing the hearignway or the deaf way on him, but exposing him to both thus ALLOWING him to choose his path.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

And WHO allowed him to do just that? Who DIDN'T allow him to ALSO have benefits from early implantation?

Fuzzy