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Reba said:
It could be relevant to the charges of racism against him.
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It is relevant, or else they wouldn't be tossing around the word "white" attached to "hispanic." They're framing it for the benefit to create racial bias.
 
Reba said:
I've listened to that recording, and I must say it's a stretch for anyone to say categorically that it was that word that was said.
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Sounds like to me "!@#$ goon"

Eh?
 
Grayma said:
I regret that I am confusing you so much.

The only factual thing I know about the *case* is that somebody died. So I refuse to speculate about either party or their motives. I will wait and see what the court decides.

What I know about the media and it's biased reporting, Spike Lee, or Jon Stuart are not facts about the case.

It's kind of funny, you seem irritated at some people for speculating, and irritated with others for refusing to speculate.
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Pretty smart thing to do rather than to speculate. I'll just let the professionals do their jobs.
 
White hispanic means half white half hispanic. GZ's father is white and mother is hispanic according to an article. If it's not proper to name him that, then what should we call it? Hispanic?, he's not 100% hispanic. White?, he's not 100% white. Nevertheless, it has nothing to do with the incident.
 
CrazyPaul said:
White hispanic means half white half hispanic. GZ's father is white and mother is hispanic according to an article. If it's not proper to name him that, then what should we call it? Hispanic?, he's not 100% hispanic. White?, he's not 100% white.
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does it matter? he can call himself whatever he wants.

CrazyPaul said:
Nevertheless, it has nothing to do with the incident.
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bingo. it has absolutely no bearing in this case except federal investigation but it's of no concern to me.
 
CrazyPaul said:
White hispanic means half white half hispanic. GZ's father is white and mother is hispanic according to an article. If it's not proper to name him that, then what should we call it? Hispanic?, he's not 100% hispanic. White?, he's not 100% white. Nevertheless, it has nothing to do with the incident.
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It's the media that's calling him "white Hispanic" for obvious reasons. He calls himself as "Hispanic" as seen on his voter registration form when he checked off the "Hispanic" box.

You're right, his race has nothing to do with this incident but people are desperately trying to make it so.
 
Jiro said:
and why is that person a criminal? just because he put stuff into his pockets doesn't exactly mean he's a thief unless he left the store without paying for it. After all..... whatever happened to "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"?
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Well, given your logic, Zimmerman really wasn't doing anything wrong at all was he? I mean, in your opinion, up until the time he shot Trayvon, he wasn't a criminal because he hadn't committed any crime. And since we really don't know the exact circumstance of what went on that led to Trayvon's death("INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"), he's still not a criminal. So, there really would be no need to arrest upstanding citizen George Zimmerman, right?
 
Jiro said:
it was the word he allegedly muttered ("f'ing coon") that brought attention to DOJ.... not what box he checked in the paper or what race the police described him as.

but it isn't hard to create a new thread to specifically talk about "White Hispanic". I'm not interested in discussing about it. I created this thread to discuss about Stand Your Ground not being applicable to his case.
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Yet, you were interested enough to attempt to shine a racist light on TXGolfer, were you not? And to call some of us buffoons.
 
CrazyPaul said:
White hispanic means half white half hispanic. GZ's father is white and mother is hispanic according to an article. If it's not proper to name him that, then what should we call it? Hispanic?, he's not 100% hispanic. White?, he's not 100% white. Nevertheless, it has nothing to do with the incident.
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Hispanic is not a race. There are some Hispanics that are 100% white, some 100% black, some 100% Indian, some 100% Asian, and some any kind of combination. It has nothing to do with skin color or physical characteristics.

According to the EEOC:

"Hispanic: All persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race."
 
Jiro said:
apparently you seem to know a lot more than that

or are you just here to team up with buffoons to heckle?
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you are also a heckling buffon, as am I.
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bullshitting, that is what the internet good for. well bullshitting and a lot of porn...

Jiro said:
yes I know. even a CNN sound guy dissected it and analyzed it carefully and can't say verify it for sure.

that's why I don't believe this is a case of hate crime. nothing to see in here. All these people like Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, etc. need to stfu and move on. we want truth, not politicization.
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sharpton will never shut up. he will say anything too continue his crusade of making his bank accounts grow by exploiting racial issues.

spike lee is a turd

that NBPP leader belongs in jail.

my opinion remains:
zimmerman should have stayed in the car. stand your ground does not apply to this case. zimmerman pursued a kid who he racially profiled as a thug. zimmerman should not have approched trayvon. zimmerman had the right to defend himself from an attack by trayvon. trayvon had the right to defend himself from an attack by zimmerman. this all could have been avoided if zimmerman had stayed in the car and did not play police wannabe. the florida legal system with make the verdict as to if zimmerman is innocent by self defense or guilty of manslauther. my opinion on the internet does not mean a damn thing. yet I will state it for the sake of bullshitting on the internet.
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just a bit of a side note:
Charles Bronson was not a vigilate, the character Paul Kersey was the vigilante. Death Wish the movie embraced vigilatism making Paul Kersey look more like a hero who took justice into his own hands. the novel Death Wish by Brian Garfield denounced vigilantism. also in the character was originally named Paul Benjamin.
 
Tousi said:
Yet, you were interested enough to attempt to shine a racist light on TXGolfer, were you not? And to call some of us buffoons.
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huh? where? oh you mean this one?

Tousi said:
And while all this is going on, we see racism rearing it's ugly head. Sharpton and his ilk like to look the other way when it happens to white folks but scream bloody murder when it is the other way around. Just sad all the way around.....
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VacationGuy234 said:
Well, given your logic, Zimmerman really wasn't doing anything wrong at all was he?
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not quite the sharpest knife in the drawer, eh?

VacationGuy234 said:
I mean, in your opinion, up until the time he shot Trayvon, he wasn't a criminal because he hadn't committed any crime. And since we really don't know the exact circumstance of what went on that led to Trayvon's death("INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"), he's still not a criminal. So, there really would be no need to arrest upstanding citizen George Zimmerman, right?
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see previous posts.
 
Reba said:
Hispanic is not a race. There are some Hispanics that are 100% white, some 100% black, some 100% Indian, some 100% Asian, and some any kind of combination. It has nothing to do with skin color or physical characteristics.

According to the EEOC:

"Hispanic: All persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race."
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Oh, thanks for the education.
 
It would be great if we can see autopsy report since it will tell us the angle of shooting and the distance unless it was sloppily done.
 
Jiro said:
It would be great if we can see autopsy report since it will tell us the angle of shooting and the distance unless it was sloppily done.
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And if Trayvon was actually on drugs - and if so, will confirm why Zimmerman called 911.
 
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