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Jiro said:
the law disagrees. so do Jeb Bush and Dennis Baxley. My law friend disagreed with you as well :lol:

I find it so comical that you're basically telling Jeb Bush and Dennis Baxley that they're wrong about Stand Your Ground not being applicable in Zimmerman's case.

I'm sorry you're still in denial. better look at several posts ago especially police video of Zimmerman coming out of police car. it's not looking too good for him and it's becoming more apparent that Zimmerman is a liar and so is police department.
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Well my lawyer friend disagreed with your lawyer friend :lol:

And if you read Jeb Bush's comments, he did not have the police report nor the eyewitness accounts when he made those remarks. He thought Zimmerman stalked Martin with a gun in hand with the intent to kill him (thanks to the MSM).

That is not what happened though.
 
Jiro said:
the law disagrees. so do Jeb Bush and Dennis Baxley. My law friend disagreed with you as well :lol:

I find it so comical that you're basically telling Jeb Bush and Dennis Baxley that they're wrong about Stand Your Ground not being applicable in Zimmerman's case.

I'm sorry you're still in denial. better look at several posts ago especially police video of Zimmerman coming out of police car. it's not looking too good for him and it's becoming more apparent that Zimmerman is a liar and so is police department.
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Do you realize you can see the bruise on the back of Zimmerman's head in that video?

Do you also realize he was looked at by medical personnel before that video was shot? Shouldn't they also be held liable for this massive "cover up" as well?

It's making your arguments look rather skanky.
 
Tousi said:
You wouldn't know Sarcasm if it hit you upside the head.
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No, I could make funny, sarcastic post whatever I want and if you don't like it then just ignore my post.
 
Steinhauer said:
Well my lawyer friend disagreed with your lawyer friend :lol:
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:lol:

the reason why I'm lol'ing is because I don't believe what you just said at all :lol:

Steinhauer said:
And if you read Jeb Bush's comments, he did not have the police report nor the eyewitness accounts when he made those remarks. He thought Zimmerman stalked Martin with a gun in hand with the intent to kill him (thanks to the MSM).

That is not what happened though.
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oh? where did he say that? source please?
 
Steinhauer said:
Do you realize you can see the bruise on the back of Zimmerman's head in that video?

Do you also realize he was looked at by medical personnel before that video was shot? Shouldn't they also be held liable for this massive "cover up" as well?

It's making your arguments look rather skanky.
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Tousi said:
Maybe the ambulance people already cleaned him up?
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he was "pummeled" by Trayvon as claimed by Zimmerman and suffered a good deal of damage.

I see nothing remote to it. either it was a superficial injury or the ambulance crew is also a great make-up crew :lol:
 
New video shows Zimmerman with NO blood or bruises on night he shot Trayvon Martin despite claiming he suffered 'broken nose'
Trayvon Martin death: Zimmerman's story called into question as new video shows no blood or bruises on Trayvon's killer | Mail Online

Black celebrities wear hoodies to raise awareness of Trayvon Martin case
Black celebrities wear hoodies to raise awareness of Trayvon Martin case | Mail Online

Congressman escorted off US House floor after wearing hoodie to support Trayvon Martin
Trayvon Martin case: Rep Bobby Rush escorted from US House floor after wearing hoodie | Mail Online

Spike Lee apologises to elderly couple who were forced to flee their home after he tweeted WRONG address for Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman
Spike Lee apologises to elderly couple who were forced to flee their home after he tweeted WRONG address for Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman | Mail Online

Trayvon Martin killing: Bobby Rush escorted off floor of US Congress after hoodie tribute
Trayvon Martin killing: Bobby Rush escorted off floor of US Congress after hoodie tribute - Telegraph

Congressman Thrown Out Over Trayvon Protest
Trayvon Martin: Bobby Rush Tossed From US House After Hoodie Tribute For Florida Teen | World News | Sky News

Trayvon Martin killing investigation starts over
Trayvon Martin killing investigation starts over - CBS News

Spike Lee apologizes for wrong address retweet
Spike Lee apologizes for wrong address retweet - CBS News

Video shows Zimmerman without blood, bruises
Video shows Zimmerman without blood, bruises - CBS News

we will kept that story update
 
Tousi said:
Maybe the ambulance people already cleaned him up?
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The video isn't worth much on seeing any signs of injuries in detail taken from that distance. Did a police report say anything about Zimmerman's injuries?
 
Foxrac said:
If in your property so you can but if someone is in other place that's not yours so you can't be armed and confront at someone, once you confront a person that where property isn't yours so you lose all rights to self defense.

Let police handles any situation that happened isn't in your property.
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Incorrect. You might lose your right to "stand your ground" but you would not lose your right to self defense. Those are 2 entirely different things.
 
Foxrac said:
Ok, that's explains.

Hey airportcop, I'm apologize about misunderstood post about your police status. I wasn't know much about you because sometime, I think non-city/county police have restriction with authority but it seems not true anymore.
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No problem! I am a police officer at the airport which is owned by the city. We have our own state certified police department through the state. We are also commissioned county deputies since the land around the airport is not in the city. Any police officer in Missouri can act off duty on a violent felony crime.
 
Jiro said:
sssssshhhh...... you need to slow down and breathe. you need to stop trying to keep changing scenarios to fit your world.

specifically based on your post above - yes you're within your right to stand your ground.

but your previous post wasn't about your neighbor's yard.... you specifically said store.... which is a public area. so based on what you said in previous post, you are not within your right to stand your ground if you brought it to yourself.
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The law is made for public areas. It is made for people to walk around in public and not have to be assaulted, that is the whole point of the law.
 
Jiro said:
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1. You are NOT required to retreat if an aggressor initially provoked the use of force against you.
Example: You're just walking down the street from grocery, eating your skittle and drinking your iced tea. Some guy was eyeballing you and following you. You saw him getting out of his car and chasing after you. You got freaked out and ran away. He caught up to you and both of you engaged in hostile conversation. You were trying to get away from him but he kept following you, menacing you with hostile tone and then... you happened to see a gun on his belt. You shot him and that's a justifiable use of force.
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If I were out innocently walking, and someone was following me, I would go quickly to some place safe, or take some other evasive action. I wouldn't get into a confrontation with the other person or engage in a hostile conversation.

I'm not sure that just seeing that he had a gun on his belt would justify shooting him. Was he reaching for it? Was he showing it to you in a threatening manner? Did he say, "Stop, or I'll shoot"? Did he say, "I have a gun, and I'll use it"?


2. You are REQUIRED to avoid a possible conflict initially.
Example: You're just driving down the road. You happened to see a suspicious person so you called 911 to report him. You described him to 911 dispatcher and you stated that he's up to something no good... fiddling around in his pocket and it looks like he's got something in his hands. then he ran away and you pursued after him. You got to him and you engaged in hostile conversation with him. He punched you and got on top of you, pummeling away on you. You shot him and that's not a justifiable use of force because this conflict was completely and wholefully preventable by letting cops handle it but by taking matters into your own hands, you're an aggressor and provocateur in this case.
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I would never "pursue" a suspicious character. I would stay in the car, and follow at a safe distance, just enough to keep him in sight. If he approached me, I would leave. There's no need for confrontation or conversation.

Why were they so close together that they were within punching range? It's very risky to get within punching, choking, kicking, or stabbing range. If you do use a gun as protection, you want to shoot before the other person can touch you. Wrestling around on the ground means the other person can take your gun from you, or turn it towards you.
 
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