Experiences with my daughter.

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rick48 said:
No you do not. We are talking about children who are unique individuals with unique needs and preferences not fodder for your agenda. What is best for one child is not what is best for another.

If that is so, then why did you not do Cued speech with your son? OIC that bit about providing all the pieces of the tapestry only applies to others, not to you.
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Youa re the one that talked about all the pieces of the tapestry of opportunity. If all the pieces are not there, you have not provided a full tapestry.

Becasue CS is redundant in view of the fact that he was already provided with ASL, and did not rely on speech reading alone for receptive langauge.
Therefore, my son's linguistic tapestry was complete. He is bilingual.

And I guess you still aren't going to answer questions, huh?
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo our children do not have a defect what they have is missing hair cells due to these missing hair cells they cannot hear.

You also mention about the opportunities that CI gives deaf children. Well the main one is a CI allows them to hear speech in the speech banana, which allows them to learn oral language without depending on lip readsing. This is something that unless our profoundly deaf children have an implant they would not hear speech in the speech banana.
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And you would consider these missing hair cells to be....? And you would consider not hearing to be.....? All you gave me was a differential diagnosis. That doesn't tell me anything other than the fact that you are concentrating on the pathology and the medical perspective.

Why is it necessary for a deaf child to hear speech in the speech bananna? Why oral language? It is not necessary for literacy.
 
sr171soars and R2D2, thank you both very much.....
 
jillio said:
And you would consider these missing hair cells to be....? And you would consider not hearing to be.....? All you gave me was a differential diagnosis. That doesn't tell me anything other than the fact that you are concentrating on the pathology and the medical perspective.

Why is it necessary for a deaf child to hear speech in the speech bananna? Why oral language? It is not necessary for literacy.
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Jillo I have never said that oral language was necessary for literacy. Deaf kids need to hear in the speech banana if the purpose for these deaf kids is to learn oral language. It is not necessary for a deaf kid to hear in the speech banana unless the goal is for these deaf kids to learn oral language then it is necessary.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo I have never said that oral language was necessary for literacy. Deaf kids need to hear in the speech banana if the purpose for these deaf kids is to learn oral language. It is not necessary for a deaf kid to hear in the speech banana unless the goal is for these deaf kids to learn oral language then it is necessary.
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Ahhh.......thank you for clarifying. THE GOAL, then is ORAL language skills. Not necessarily English skills, or litearcy rate increases, or more opportunity.....but oral language skills. Thanks for clarifying that.

Would you care to answer the other questions? The fill-in-the-blank ones?
 
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jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo I have never said that oral language was necessary for literacy. Deaf kids need to hear in the speech banana if the purpose for these deaf kids is to learn oral language. It is not necessary for a deaf kid to hear in the speech banana unless the goal is for these deaf kids to learn oral language then it is necessary.
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Oh now I know why I was placed in an oral-only environment. Not to increase my literacy skills but to get me to talk. It would make sense cuz all my life it was all about my speech skills..nothing about my literacy skills. Wow..that sucks. :(


Anyways..We are all off topic and I just realized that it is Cloggy's thread about his daughter so probably best to take the argument in another thread. :)
 
shel90 said:
..........Anyways..We are all off topic and I just realized that it is Cloggy's thread about his daughter so probably best to take the argument in another thread. :)
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Thanks Shel,
I don't mind going off-topic, but we're far away from "Experiences with my daughter".
I allready asked the moderators to remove (or move to a new thread) everything after post 268 in order to clean it up.
 
Perhaps I should request that int the thread itself:
I don't mind going off-topic, but we're far away from "Experiences with my daughter".
Moderator(s), can someone please remove (or move to a new thread) everything from (including) post 268 in order to clean it up.
 
Wear and tear

Some time ago, there was some discussion on the wear of the coils and coil wires.
I posted something on Lotte's blog...
Wear on the coils..
With the way Lotte is wearing her CI, the BTE's on her shoulders, there's quite some stretching involved when she puts them on herself when they fall off. (Have to make a video of it...)

Here are some pictures of the damage that is done to the coils. Mind you, they last
quite long. What you see is the result of 4 to 6 months.

The first picture shows a torn outer "casing" that protects the wires running inside. The second picture shows twisting due to the constant handling by Lotte. (This actually doesn't happen any more. It was from quite some time ago.)
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SO, the video is made now....
Lotte puts on her CI.
Some time ago, actually, below this post, I posted about how Lotte is wearing out the coil-thread due to the stretching when she put's it back herself.
I finally put it on video....
This one below is when she puts on one CI...

This one is looking from the back, putting on both CI's..
It was funny, because I told her to take them off, and turn to the door, so I could film her.
She understood fine... except that she couldn't hear me saying that she could put them on. Patiently waiting....

It's great to see how she hears so well with CI, but just as important, how she is fine without any sound.
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*sigh* I can't see the pictures and video at office computer until I am home from work to use my home computer this evening...
 
Cloggy,

Your daughter is beautiful, Thanks for sharing us the video of her. ;)

May I ask is there a video of her signing that I can be able to see?
 
Cheri said:
Cloggy,

Your daughter is beautiful, Thanks for sharing us the video of her. ;)

May I ask is there a video of her signing that I can be able to see?
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There's a video on the blog where she's signing, but that is from about 2 years ago. (See here.)

She doesn't use sign any more. She still understands the signs she learned before she got CI. But when CI is off, and we use sign, she will reply with speech.
 
Cloggy said:
There's a video on the blog where she's signing, but that is from about 2 years ago. (See here.)

She doesn't use sign any more. She still understands the signs she learned before she got CI. But when CI is off, and we use sign, she will reply with speech.
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I see a few signs that were shown, not a bad start to begin with. But, I still think it's best if she exposed to more signs, as you stated that she will reply with speech if she understand a sign that you signed, does that tell you something?
 
From my perspective it tells him that she's understanding what they say in sign when its needed (when the CI is off) and she's very comfortable responding in speech. I see no problem with this...should there be a problem?
 
neecy said:
From my perspective it tells him that she's understanding what they say in sign when its needed (when the CI is off) and she's very comfortable responding in speech. I see no problem with this...should there be a problem?
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Yes, she understood what they said in signs.

That doesn't mean she is comfortable responding in speech, it could mean that she respond in speech to impressed her parents because her parents signed to impressed her.

That's what methods of communication that I like to see in most parents/children relationship. ;)
 
neecy said:
From my perspective it tells him that she's understanding what they say in sign when its needed (when the CI is off) and she's very comfortable responding in speech. I see no problem with this...should there be a problem?
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Only that she obviously is still using visual cues for receptive language. And communication is diadic.
 
Cheri said:
Yes, she understood what they said in signs.

That doesn't mean she is comfortable responding in speech, it could mean that she respond in speech to impressed her parents because her parents signed to impressed her.

That's what methods of communication that I like to see in most parents/children relationship. ;)
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Children do what they think their parents expect of them and what they believe will gain their parents' approval. Just ask any oral deaf child that snuck around and learned sign on the sly from peers.
 
jillio said:
Children do what they think their parents expect of them and what they believe will gain their parents' approval. Just ask any oral deaf child that snuck around and learned sign on the sly from peers.
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That's true too. ;)
 
Cloggy said:
Some time ago, there was some discussion on the wear of the coils and coil wires.
I posted something on Lotte's blog...


SO, the video is made now....
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regarding the wear and tear on the coils. I've had the implant for about a year and ahalf and so far there had been no problems with the coils. But last night I noticed that the casing by the magnet end had cracked. I do seem to have actaully agotten quite a long time out of it compared to others who use the freedom, the casing splitting seems to be a problem that hasn't been fixed. .
 
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