Experiences with my daughter.

Status
Not open for further replies.
jillio said:
Only that she obviously is still using visual cues for receptive language. And communication is diadic.
Click to expand...

Perhaps - but only when she's NOT wearing the CI.
 
QUOTE=neecy;843444]Perhaps - but only when she's NOT wearing the CI.[/QUOTE]

And the time that she is not wearing the CI does not make communication any less important. Isn't it best to be able to be able to communicate with your child at all times, and not only when the CI is functioning? :dunno2: And likewise, it could very well be that a CI child is still dependent upon other visual cues for understanding of receptive language even when they are wearing their CI, isn't it?
 
Lovely videos of Lotte Cloggy! She's a stunning girl and she seems happy too.

I think that we can forget that Cloggy has been one of those uncommon parents who have learned to sign as soon as he knew Lotte was deaf and seems to have adopted a child led approach to communication. I mean heck! how many hearing parents actually do that? Not many!

I think that everyone here would agree that it would be a vastly big step forward if every hearing parent learned to sign as soon as deafness was diagnosed to get early language started. I think that what happens after that is more of a grey area of choice and it's something I'd rather leave up to the parent, as long as they are well informed and well educated about different viewpoints, as long as continued language acquisition is not held back and as long as it was child led, with no pressure placed on them not to communicate in the way they would prefer. I would also think it is important for them to have regular access to other deaf children of their age and older ones so that they aren't alone and can identify with others.

I do agree that for safety reasons and for times when the CI is not worn, it would be useful to keep up the signing skills even when the child does not have a wish to do so. This can be done by having the child receptively understand the signing, even if they speak back in reply.
 
I viewed those videos before I will leave for work within 15 minutes.

I am very impress with videos, I saw. Lotto is a beautiful girl. I can see that she has a good moviate with her development. It would be great when you sign bit more. I agree that it´s up to Lotto either she want to speak with sign or speak without sign.

Keep update posts about her...
 
Aww what a beautiful little angel, she does look very happy with her implant...How come I see your wife and your daughter but I don't see you ?
 
Angel said:
Aww what a beautiful little angel, she does look very happy with her implant...How come I see your wife and your daughter but I don't see you ?
Click to expand...

It could be that he filmed them?

Cloggy, I remember the family picture of you all at other forum at 2 years ago...

Can you share the family picture here or under the picture section? (Picture Section is for hiddern forum, not public forum).
 
Angel said:
Yeah I firgure that, maybe his wife could trade places with him so I can see him with his daughter....:)
Click to expand...

Yes, that´s good suggestion.

Wait ... I guess it could be him when Lotto and his brother with Cloggy during meal time - communication... Lotto (front) sign to Cloggy (back)... ... Correct, Cloggy?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, that´s good suggestion.

Wait ... I guess it could be him when Lotto and his brother with Cloggy during meal time - communication... Lotto (front) sign to Cloggy (back)... ... Correct, Cloggy?
Click to expand...
Correct....

And Jillio,
Children do what they think their parents expect of them and what they believe will gain their parents' approval. Just ask any oral deaf child that snuck around and learned sign on the sly from peers.
Click to expand...

That's correct. And the same is true for sign deaf children.... just ask your son.
In fact, it is true for all children, isn't it...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, that´s good suggestion.

Wait ... I guess it could be him when Lotto and his brother with Cloggy during meal time - communication... Lotto (front) sign to Cloggy (back)... ... Correct, Cloggy?
Click to expand...


And which video link is that?...
 
Angel said:
And which video link is that?...
Click to expand...

:( I am here in the office and his videos are being block by office computer. I have to wait until I am home from work then I will give you the link... Today is German time: 11.04 am and I have to wait until 4.00 pm then go home... :(

Cloggy would be glad to provide you one of videos what you want to view before me...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
:( I am here in the office and his videos are being block by office computer. I have to wait until I am home from work then I will give you the link... Today is German time: 11.04 am and I have to wait until 4.00 pm then go home... :(

Cloggy would be glad to provide you one of videos what you want to view before me...
Click to expand...

Aw that's alright I'll wait, Thank you ;)
 
jillio said:
And the time that she is not wearing the CI does not make communication any less important. Isn't it best to be able to be able to communicate with your child at all times, and not only when the CI is functioning? :dunno2: And likewise, it could very well be that a CI child is still dependent upon other visual cues for understanding of receptive language even when they are wearing their CI, isn't it?
Click to expand...

:gpost:!!
 
Cloggy said:
There's a video on the blog where she's signing, but that is from about 2 years ago. (See here.)

She doesn't use sign any more. She still understands the signs she learned before she got CI. But when CI is off, and we use sign, she will reply with speech.
Click to expand...

That's cool.
 
Cloggy said:
Correct....

And Jillio,


That's correct. And the same is true for sign deaf children.... just ask your son.
In fact, it is true for all children, isn't it...
Click to expand...

Yes, I expected that my son would communicate in the way that was most comfortable and natural for him. He was encouraged to communicate, not just to speak. When I communicated with him, I used sign and speech, and allowed him to respond in the way he was best able to express himself. I did not insist that he use my way. Inthat way, he understood that communication was the important issue, not the mode of communication.

And, my sondid not have to learn his sign on the sly, nor did he have to switch his mode of communication in his homeor school environment based on my expectations of his using oral language.
 
jillio said:
Yes, I expected that my son would communicate in the way that was most comfortable and natural for him. He was encouraged to communicate, not just to speak. When I communicated with him, I used sign and speech, and allowed him to respond in the way he was best able to express himself. I did not insist that he use my way. Inthat way, he understood that communication was the important issue, not the mode of communication.

And, my sondid not have to learn his sign on the sly, nor did he have to switch his mode of communication in his homeor school environment based on my expectations of his using oral language.
Click to expand...

Exactly like Lotte....
We expected that she would communicate in the way that was most comfortable and natural for her.
She was encouraged to communicate, not just to speak.
When we communicated with her, we used sign and speech, and allowed her to respond in the way she was best able to express himself.
We did not insist that she use my way. Insthat way, she understood that communication was the important issue, not the mode of communication.

And, our daughter did not have to learn her way of communication on the sly, nor did she have to switch her mode of communication in her home or school environment based on our expectations of her using oral language
 
Cloggy said:
Exactly like Lotte....
We expected that she would communicate in the way that was most comfortable and natural for her.
She was encouraged to communicate, not just to speak.
When we communicated with her, we used sign and speech, and allowed her to respond in the way she was best able to express himself.
We did not insist that she use my way. Insthat way, she understood that communication was the important issue, not the mode of communication.

And, our daughter did not have to learn her way of communication on the sly, nor did she have to switch her mode of communication in her home or school environment based on our expectations of her using oral language
Click to expand...

And so, what is your disagreement with what I said, exactly?
 
rick48 said:
Hey Cloggy, how about that, and to think that we thought all along that we were giving our children opportunities. Amazing how someone who has never met our children thinks she knows our children better then we do! :)
Click to expand...

It is because us Deaf people have experienced deafness firsthand. We know how it is like to be deaf. As long as we are signing with others, we don't feel disabled. When hearing people decided that their kids should be implanted, they are saying out loud that sign language is so wrong and that hearing is alot better than being deaf. That is why I see CI being so wrong. :pissed: Why does it take hearing people to really foul things up? Deaf education should be run by the Deaf people, not hearing people. It is much easier for the hearing people to learn ASL than deaf people learning to speak. So yes, we do know your children better than you do!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top