EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

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Interesting way of looking at it, LinuxGold. What would you say about people who say "I can't learn ASL because my parents didn't like it!" ??
 
gnulinuxman said:
Interesting way of looking at it, LinuxGold. What would you say about people who say "I can't learn ASL because my parents didn't like it!" ??

My parents are flutent in PSE, and that is how I came to be. I learned ASL when I got to NTID. It is a WONDERFUL "Social Life" language, but NOT a Educational tool.
 
After it was locked so I posted other topic for part two. Jeez!

I can see That s discrimination and insult on gay issue. So therefore you both are being discriminator toward any minorities people. You need to grow up. LuciaDisturbed and CasperGemini ( Deaflinuxgeek s old boyfriend who is jealous of Gnulinuxman. That's why he got his own revenge. Jeez!

Sexy Porkie, dont you ever forget that there are different levels of austitic people. Gnulinuxman and Deaf deaflinuxgeek are the one who has the high functional autistic people. So please respect them.

Cloggy.

Anyway, I did writing on my own deep thinking that I expressed it all along. Also I edited it many times as I have told you all the time.. Can you accept that? JEEZ! if not, then it s your issue. I am getting sick of your harrassment all the time.

I have changed a lot of my own writing from the past years and today. I m proud of it. I do sometimes mess up and realized sometimes it comes out perfect once a whlie.. NO ONE IS PERFECT in English Written if you have to know that by now. I know I am a good writer from the bottom of my heart that helps myself more confidence to write for better. I am no perfect English written anyhow. AND I did it on my own that I am proud of myself and my own writings that is no matter if it is perfect or not. So be it!

I dont like you Cloggy and your bigotry attitude for more than two years.. You denied too much and lied to many others.. Also I dont like the way you misused them all along so you want them to kiss your arse. Nice try, Cloggy. You are good at it. Whats the matter.. you couldnt find anything to say about my post so you find another way to pick on me? nice try.

You refused to let me to stand up for d/Deaf children s needs that they couldnt hear anything or everything with HA or CI. You just cant leave them out of our sight that they do need literacy to focus on more than focusing on hear and speak itself only. Also many parents are not willing to learn ASL with their d/Deaf children thats when the problem started out with no true communication at home as usual. Dont deny it.

You are the ghost writer that tend to cover up my writings. Also you lied that you think you know everything about Deaf people s needs or Deaf culture but you dont know nothing. I thanked you for not having a faith in my own writings. Then UP YOURS! a hearing person with a stinky attitude.

One parent from all deaf that he doesnt sign to his deaf son while his son with CI failed for more than ten years.. So whats this ? His totally deaf son dont write English written very well. Tell me why is that?? because of SEE (artificial langauge) that relates to a spoken language after all he cannot hear anything very well.

Thats why I ignored you as much as I can. It s not worthwhile to fight with you because you think you know it all about deafness or being deaf.. Scoffs! I am d/Deaf and can speak all along without HA device for six years that you couldnt face the reality. So be it.

Some of you dont read it careful or are having a reading problem that I can see it very much. You are confused or misunderstood as usual. I feel sorry for you guys/ gals. No wonder many deafies and hearies with negative audist attitude, who jumped to conclusion as usual. Scoffs!

Have a good day!

Sweetmind


PS: Thank you for doing it on your own purpose to destroy my topic.. Nothing new whatever I tried to post it. UP YOURS!
 
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Cochlear Implants to Organs doesn't make no sense, It's not the same thing.


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YOu got that right!!. Also, I have said it in other pages of this topic . Also your comparison with wheelchair users is not used in the right context here because of course they need a wheelchair to be mobile but that is not the same as being deaf because we can still be alive and alert with ASL we dont need devices...they dont always do their job...wheelchairs do.



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My point is that the code of medical ethics says do not harm... that includes Deafness...they DID damage deaf childrens residual hearing that is NOT allowed because it is not a fix to the problem. They cannot compare ears to bodyparts because it is not related to sound. Deaf children can hear with a hearing aid but they cannot hear everything so why force a CI upon them. CI is not making any big difference from HA devices that we are still cannot hear everything. So be it!


Most of you decide to ignore the fact that there is still a literacy problem for Deaf children with HA or CI without Deaf language. Listening is not the answer to make Deaf children's life success. We are deaf as always and did the best that we did with our orally speaking with or without devices that is no difference. Many parents dont allowed d/Deaf children to use their hands at home that is wrong to force them to speak for their sakes. Or parents dont bother to learn because it s too hard.. Yeah right since it s harder for d/Deaf children to speak perfectly so we did learned how to use orally speaking for many years. So what s your problem? I find this is no excuse for anyone who cannot learn ASL.

ASL was never involved into the classroom or at home if you mind.

Thank you!
Sweetmind
 
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you, LinuxGold on one part of how Cochlear Implant should be the primary priority, Also due to the fact that CIs do not work for everyone and We also have so many different individuals living out in the real world who don't hold the same amount of hearing, sight, language, and etc. does it keep them from living in the real world? Of course not. They have a choice, they either want to be part of the world or be in their own little world which that would be "Deaf Culture" or "Deaf Community" With me I think what's most important in order to live out in the world is speech not hearing. I don't think you have to be hearing to survived in the world and social with other different individuals out there, Deaf people with spoken language can still get jobs if they cannot hear.

Now in my opinion Cochlear Implant is a choice, wants to be able to hear sounds, and only if nothing else really works in auditory technology.
 
sweetmind: I know you wanted to vent personally against those member of AllDeaf, but attacking them personally is pretty much off topic for this thread.

Keep our discussion focused into this subject please.
 
Sighs! Please remove it that I just posted other topic of Evidence of being deaf with HA part two .. Thank you. You need to read what they did it to me after all I havent done anything wrong. They want to destroy between their replies and mine. That is their purpose to do this. I dont have any respect for them. I am tired of their harrassment toward me and few others who did it on purpose.
 
Cheri said:
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you, LinuxGold on one part of how Cochlear Implant should be the primary priority, Also due to the fact that CIs do not work for everyone and We also have so many different individuals living out in the real world who don't hold the same amount of hearing, sight, language, and etc. does it keep them from living in the real world? Of course not. They have a choice, they either want to be part of the world or be in their own little world which that would be "Deaf Culture" or "Deaf Community" With me I think what's most important in order to live out in the world is speech not hearing. I don't think you have to be hearing to survived in the world and social with other different individuals out there, Deaf people with spoken language can still get jobs if they cannot hear.

Now in my opinion Cochlear Implant is a choice, wants to be able to hear sounds, and only if nothing else really works in auditory technology.

Well, pardon me for saying that Cochlear Implant is a proirity, but it is strenuously recommended as a priority WHERE it is possible, otherwise use PSE or language that supports English grammar. My apologies.

If I had a child and is deaf, doctors analyzed and recommended cochlear implant, then I would accept it because I wanted that child to be able to communicate in working world.

Keep in mind that "Deaf culture" is pretty much seriously generalized -- not all of us are in deaf cultures -- there are so many deaf population that live alone, with no other deaf people within approximity. Now with that "Deaf culture" attitude, how will they survive in that isolated world?
 
Sweetmind said:
Sighs! Please remove it that I just posted other topic of Evidence of being deaf with HA part two .. Thank you. You need to read what they did it to me after all I havent done anything wrong. They want to destroy between their reply and mine. That is their purpose to do this. I dont have any respect for them. I am tired of their harrassment toward me and few others who did it on purpose.


Not a problem, I will just leave things alone and for the next time, just report it to the moderators. That is why we are here, to pacify things around here.
 
LinuxGold said:
Well, pardon me for saying that Cochlear Implant is a proirity, but it is strenuously recommended as a priority WHERE it is possible, otherwise use PSE or language that supports English grammar. My apologies.

If I had a child and is deaf, doctors analyzed and recommended cochlear implant, then I would accept it because I wanted that child to be able to communicate in working world.

Keep in mind that "Deaf culture" is pretty much seriously generalized -- not all of us are in deaf cultures -- there are so many deaf population that live alone, with no other deaf people within approximity. Now with that "Deaf culture" attitude, how will they survive in that isolated world?

My thinking here is that parents who consider CI's for their children, they do not take CI's lightly. If they are good parents they would spend hours/days/weeks/months/or more discussing this with each others, with doctors, and other people. They do not go "oh yeah, let's implant our kid, fix him/her". It isn't that simple. They consider all the pros and the cons of a CI. They consider whether the child can hear enough with her/his residual hearing, if not, then they consider CI. I do not see what's wrong with that?

Also, if they consider doing TC along with CI, sign language and speech and all the tools, that would be good.

That's my opinion here.
 
LinuxGold said:
Well, pardon me for saying that Cochlear Implant is a proirity, but it is strenuously recommended as a priority WHERE it is possible, otherwise use PSE or language that supports English grammar. My apologies.
That's much better input. ;)
 
Well PSE is mixed with ASL or native sign language and English. So what are you trying to imply? It seems to me Bi Bi language as well.. LOL! It s no difference. Anyway, thanks to oralism, signing [ artificial languages] seems to be more complicated than it needs to be. **rme**

Thank You! ;)
Sweetmind
 
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Cloggy said:
You are so sweet...

You could have looked it up... but who's to help you.... well, I will: (Highlighted so that you can find it easier...)
(from this site)

By the way.. "admitted to netrox on other topic and i did warned Sweetmind" .....
what are you babbling about...???
In a sentance, write something like "admitte to ....." so that it makes sence.

Also... "I did warn Sweetmind" and
it's "Audist" which when you work with them, you should know.

Ha Ha Ha I did asked you if you actually used Sweetmind making posts... you would not admit.. you laughed....I did asked you if you are a computer programmer... You said NO... you thought i was .... no I am a computer technican who fixes computers not to program the computers...
you did admitted to Netrox that you were a ghostwriter... and he or she laughed....

SORRY... I was not born yesterday!!!!

Thanks!!
SxyPorkie :dunno:
 
SxyPorkie said:
Ha Ha Ha I did asked you if you actually used Sweetmind making posts... you would not admit.. you laughed....I did asked you if you are a computer programmer... You said NO... you thought i was .... no I am a computer technican who fixes computers not to program the computers...
you did admitted to Netrox that you were a ghostwriter... and he or she laughed....

SORRY... I was not born yesterday!!!!

Thanks!!
SxyPorkie :dunno:

I've never seen Cloggy state anywhere that he's a ghostwriter for anybody. Do you really know what a ghostwriter is?
 
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=28014&page=4&pp=20

I was not wearing HA until I was about 35.... I was warned that wearing the hearing aid can destroy my hearing what was left..... I did heard good enough until I was 35.. then started wearing two HAs until 5 yrs ago.... I stopped wearing them due to migraines.... migraines comes less and less after i stopped wearing HAs... now i am almost totally deaf..... it was HAs destroyed what was left of hearings I had....

Since I had not wearing them little of hearing came back.. not completely like i used to be...therefore CI can destroy hearing what is left before.... Thats why I am against having babies and toddlers having implanted....

Thanks...
SxyPorkie
 
SxyPorkie said:
http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=28014&page=4&pp=20

I was not wearing HA until I was about 35.... I was warned that wearing the hearing aid can destroy my hearing what was left..... I did heard good enough until I was 35.. then started wearing two HAs until 5 yrs ago.... I stopped wearing them due to migraines.... migraines comes less and less after i stopped wearing HAs... now i am almost totally deaf..... it was HAs destroyed what was left of hearings I had....

Since I had not wearing them little of hearing came back.. not completely like i used to be...therefore CI can destroy hearing what is left before.... Thats why I am against having babies and toddlers having implanted....

Thanks...
SxyPorkie

What if the child has like only 1% of hearing left, basically nothing? Then what? It wouldn't even matter...
 
Sweetmind said:
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Cloggy.

Anyway, I did writing on my own deep thinking that I expressed it all along. Also I edited it many times as I have told you all the time.. Can you accept that? JEEZ! if not, then it s your issue. I am getting sick of your harrassment all the time.

I have changed a lot of my own writing from the past years and today. I m proud of it. I do sometimes mess up and realized sometimes it comes out perfect once a whlie.. NO ONE IS PERFECT in English Written if you have to know that by now. I know I am a good writer from the bottom of my heart that helps myself more confidence to write for better. I am no perfect English written anyhow. AND I did it on my own that I am proud of myself and my own writings that is no matter if it is perfect or not. So be it!
Just wondered why sometimes you let someone else write for you, that’s all. Because when that happens it seems as if I reply to someone else, not you.
Sweetmind said:
……. Whats the matter.. you couldnt find anything to say about my post so you find another way to pick on me? nice try.
Funny you should ask that…
I had plenty to remark on your post but as usual you choose to ignore anything not written by yourself.
So, just go here http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=569127&postcount=1253 and see what I had to say… Ah, what the hack… I’ll post it again below. - Sorry, that would be repeating too much..
Look it up for yourself..
Sweetmind said:
You refused to let me to stand up for d/Deaf children s needs that they couldnt hear anything or everything with HA or CI.
Sweetmind said:
........Scoffs! Nothing is good about Deaf children without devices from you guys...
If this is your attitude, those children might not want you to stand up for them.

Sweetmind said:
You just cant leave them out of our sight that they do need literacy to focus on more than focusing on hear and speak itself only. Also many parents are not willing to learn ASL with their d/Deaf children thats when the problem started out with no true communication at home as usual. Dont deny it.
Denying it.
Sweetmind said:
You are the ghost writer that tend to cover up my writings. Also you lied that you think you know everything about Deaf people s needs or Deaf culture but you dont know nothing. I thanked you for not having a faith in my own writings. Then UP YOURS! a hearing person with a stinky attitude.
Allready explained the term “ghostwriter” to you here. http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=569305&postcount=1271 You should read more.
 
neecy said:
I've never seen Cloggy state anywhere that he's a ghostwriter for anybody. Do you really know what a ghostwriter is?

Not this topic... It was your topic for sweetmind ....i think it is locked .... i am not sure...

SxyPorkie
 
SxyPorkie said:
Not this topic... It was your topic for sweetmind ....i think it is locked .... i am not sure...

SxyPorkie
So, basically... you cannot find it.... but you know it's there... or you think, you're not sure...

Go on, find it... I know it's not there....
 
SxyPorkie said:
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Since I had not wearing them little of hearing came back.. not completely like i used to be...therefore CI can destroy hearing what is left before.... Thats why I am against having babies and toddlers having implanted....

Thanks...
SxyPorkie

Er...absolutely not the case whatsoever. There is a big difference in how a HA works and how a CI works. Lets get that clear right now. A HA just uses the same system that a hearing person uses. A CI bypasses the whole kaboodle until the cochlear nerve itself. The cochlear hairs are no longer used and they are what you were talking about in reference to a HA. Any discussions about a HA destroying hearing is a whole another complicated subject line.

As long as the CI just uses the cochlear nerve and the nerve itself is not abused (by the CI or otherwise), then you have hearing for life. That is one thing I'm thrilled about as age no longer is an issue for me. At 80 (if I make it to that point), my hearing will still be as good as it is now with my CI this day!!!
 
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