EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device

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So there! You dont want to hear the truth thats the problem of your denials as usual. This Deaf girl is not the only one who said it as far as I know all along. There are many Deaf childrens complaint about CI device itself nowadays. Think twice before some people said this statement "With that, I cannot understand the anti-CI towards deaf children." People dont give a hoot after all they failed Deaf children with CI. It s wrong to keep your hands to cover your eyes that the truth comes out now. Ignore Deaf children s true inner soul and emotional / mentality abuse that needs to be stopped.
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Yes, a lot of us abide by the statment I posted. "Someone" is me who stated that. You fail to understand that no one is going to stop the CI in children when the majority benefits and a few fail. It is the problem of the parents to make sure they adjust their program when an implant may not work NOT THE CI ITSELF. You fail to know that this is not a hidden fact. People are aware that there are risks with the CI. There is no hidden crap of what you say. You just want to keep believing that, and pull every deaf children to your level.

No more bullshit after all you made d/Deaf children miserable all along. It s not new thing because it has been going on and on for years and years that hasnt bit changed by their audist attitude people. Sighs!
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This is your experience, so you make it sound like it happens to everyone. I think it's time to quit bringing your bitterness to us and deal with a therapist if you are so traumatized. Many deaf people would disagree with you. Many deaf children and adult do not feel the way that you do. So THERE!

You dont accept a Deaf children for the way they are from the start. I cannot understand that you are willing to contintue more problems that hasnt solved the problem from the old past up to now. Jeez! You are not helping Deaf children s literacy.
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Pure BS, if it were true for every deaf parent, then all of these children would be in foster care or given up for adoption. Tells me you don't know the true story of many good parents who take their time to help their children succeed.

Ears do not think but Brain does think. Period!
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There's nothing wrong with wanting to hear.
 
It s very selfish for hearing parents who thinks of themselves first before d/Deaf children 's true adaptions, true identity, and many issues.
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Not true, a lot of parents go out and research for the best option for their children. You don't know everything about raising deaf children.

I feel you are very selfish to say that deaf children with HA, ORAL or CI is a fake person.
 
By the way, that statement is a true statement of my open-minded observation and research. I have heard and read of so many on both sides. I am not stating ignorancy. I still don't see why deaf children cannot be implanted at an early age when I see the benefits of so many. Because it doesn't work for a few, it doesn't mean that the rest of the deaf children cannot experience a CI hearing when it is obvious it can work. It's selfish to state that a child must remain deaf because of an opinion like yours.

It's a fact to state that Helen Keller who is so famous and intelligent would rather restore her hearing than her blindness because it makes a barrier between other people. A lot of people feel like Helen Keller. I am stating all of this because not everyone agrees with your deaf way of living, and you cannot seem to accept that it is a fact.
 
It's a fact to state that Helen Keller who is so famous and intelligent would rather restore her hearing than her blindness because it makes a barrier between other people. A lot of people feel like Helen Keller. I am stating all of this because not everyone agrees with your deaf way of living, and you cannot seem to accept that it is a fact.
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I disagree with you since she depended on interpreter all her lives. She hadnt been mingled with deaf people every day. If she did know where Deaf Blind people are and would have interact with other Deaf blind people everyday. She would have saying that she prefer deaf than blind. I have already asked some d/Deaf blind that they prefer to be deaf than blind in todays. I was told by latened deaf person who said the same thing. ;) Also, Hearing blind prefer to be blind than being deaf. :whistle: :whistle:

Nice try!

Sweetmind
 
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Sweetmind said:
I disagree with you since she depended on interpreter all her lives. She hadnt been mingled with deaf people every day. If she did know where Deaf Blind people are and would have interact with other Deaf blind people everyday. She would have saying that she prefer deaf than blind. I have already asked some d/Deaf blind that they prefer to be deaf than blind in todays. I was told by latened deaf person who said the same thing. ;)

Nice try!

Sweetmind
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I swear - you will try to find ANY means to twist things won't you? Even an established quote from somebody isn't acceptable by you because they "could have changed their minds if only...blah blah blah..." Your ignorance and idiocity knows no bounds.
 
She depended on Anne Sullivan because she needed her, but that doesn't mean she liked being dependent. You sound like you like being dependent and disabled.

Right, it's hard to find deaf people where you live. Who says you need to belong in the Deaf Community and stay there to be happy? Is the only way to be happy in the Deaf Community? I sure would miss my family... Many deaf people would rather stay with their family and where God placed them. You forget that I am deaf, and I have my own opinions too.

She would have saying that she prefer deaf than blind.
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She stated she would rather be hearing. Don't change that fact by creating a fantasy of yours. This fact is not far from true today. She choose to travel the world and be with everyone. She went on to better herself through not only sign language, but oralism and writing! She sounds like someone who wants to soar past low expectations because she's deaf and blind. There is nothing wrong with raising expectations for deaf children just because they are deaf.

I have already asked some d/Deaf blind that they prefer to be deaf than blind in todays.
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Right SOME. I already know this of SOME. I never said every deaf person would rather be deaf than blind. I don't know where you're going with this... Your statement doesn't state a fact about every deaf person either, but it sounds like you wish it would be. That said, it's okay to have an opinion, but it's not okay to state things like a fact as you always do.
 
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By the way, that statement is a true statement of my open-minded observation and research. I have heard and read of so many on both sides. I am not stating ignorancy. I still don't see why deaf children cannot be implanted at an early age when I see the benefits of so many. Because it doesn't work for a few, it doesn't mean that the rest of the deaf children cannot experience a CI hearing when it is obvious it can work. It's selfish to state that a child must remain deaf because of an opinion like yours.
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Yea yea yea yea whatever. You ignored the fact that I posted this Deaf girl has her CI and has a failure literacy because you forced her to speak and hear with her device.. Oral rules is not the winner.

We many deafies already wore Hearing Aid in our early age so what s your point? No difference between HA and CI that has the same old behavior patterns. It doesnt surprise me at all. Thats why I disagree HA/CI is not the only answer.

Wonderful!!! Some of you people have blamed ASL or BI BI language itself from the start that shows that ASL was never involved from the start. ;)

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Do you know what it means Ears does not think but Brain does? I dont think so.. You need to clean up that clogged brain of yours. Thanks!

You sound like you like being dependent and disabled.
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I think you are depending on those device to make yourself so dependent and more disabled.. I m sorry I look different way around. ;) I can do it without devices because I can use my eyes (vision) my brain ( learn and think) and hands to communicate with BI BI language as well as I learned how to use orally speaking in speech class that would be enuff for me. That s my survival oral kit if you mind. I dont expect everyone forced me to speak in my own deaf voices that will help them to understand 100 percent.. So you make it more isolation and more barrier of communication as well as it was no involvement with ASL.


Literacy goes with learning, thinking, reading, and writing thats where it goes from our brains. I prefer that way. I am Deaf as always that I couldnt hide it myself. As far as I m getting fed up that audist attitude denied too much and trying to cover up the truth about our Deaf children s need that comes first before hear and speak only. Thanks!


Thank you so much! ;)
Sweetmind
 
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Yea yea yea yea whatever. You ignored the fact that I posted this Deaf girl has her CI and has a failure literacy because you forced her to speak and hear with her device.. Oral is not the winner.
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I DID NOT ignore that. That's a LIE. Go back and look it up. Don't LIE.

So, ASL is winner? Why are we still failing to providing writing and reading skills to deaf children? WHY IS IT FAILING? You ignore this fact!
 
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Do you know what it means Ears does not think but Brain does? I dont think so.. You need to clean up that clogged brain of yours. Thanks!
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I had to step in here as you just keep repeating this mantra and it is time to obliterate it once and for all.

The brain interprets sounds period. No ifs whats or buts. All the ear does is relay the information to the brain...nothing more...nothing less. Actually, how your brain gets the information is really irrelevant as long as the brain gets it. So, you can be hearing, using HA or CI and the information is being transmitted to the brain. Abeit, one using a HA and CI doesn't get all the information that normal hearing provides but it often useful information and thus many who use devices are able to use it. Now, if one can't understand the information, then there can be different reasons why that could be. One reason is that not enough information is getting to the brain. Another is that the normal spoken language development never fully materialized and therefore the brain can't make sense of the information (one cannot skip this critical step and it only occurs when young in the 0-7 years of life). The cochlear nerve may be damaged or not working. There may be problems within the brain itself that causes difficulty. Too many reasons to enumerate here...

No matter how you look at it, the brain is the final arbitrator for how you perceive the world around you via your senses...sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste. You can live without them (your senses) but you cannot live without a brain... I'm sure you heard of the term "braindead"?
 
I think you are depending on those device to make yourself so dependent and more disabled.. I m sorry I look different way around. I can do it without devices because I can use my eyes (vision) my brain ( learn and think) and hands to communicate with BI BI language as well as I learned how to use orally speaking. That s my survivual oral kits if you mind. I dont expect everyone forced me to speak in my own deaf voices that will help them to undertand 100 percent.. So you make it more isolation and more barrier of communication as well.
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Sign language equal using interpreters! Dependent, dependent, dependent. I don't like using a person to be with me to hear my personal discussions with others. I don't like relay hearing my personal information.....
 
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Saturday, June 24, 2006 It s update means yesterday if you mind.
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the Truth is HERE.
THE TRUTH
DEAR X

I'm so angry cos I can't English understand and hard write. I have cochlear implant but I feel not easy if use oral all the time. My friend thinks I'm studip cos I poor read and English I rather sign

I think will improve my English . Doctor must tell parent about sign and good for deaf baby. Parent should meet deaf people

I blame doctor advise my parent. Doctor always wrong advice

From [14 year old Deaf girl]

Dear Dr X
I am sad with Dr X told my mum and dad to not allow sign language when I was little girl now feel lose confident because of my English aren't good. I find hard work with learn how to listen and oral all the time all my life.

Now I meet deaf people like [Deaf organisation] is allow sign. I want to more communication help me feel so relax and easy life.

Dr X should tell all families about positive outside and sign can help improve English and read.

From [14 year old Deaf girl]



I dont need your argument that shows me you dont give a hoot. I have no respect that kind of audist attitude.. You blamed Deaf school , You blamed ASL and dont see any positive reinforcement about Deaf children can do without hear. JEEZZZ!!! You are wasting my time..

SAME OLD AUDIST ATTITUDE!!!! sighs! YOU REFUSED to see the truth.. SCOFF!

Thats what I m getting impressed and showing the fact how people with audist atittude who treated Deaf children that failed too much all along.. Thank you so much!
 
ClearSky said:
Sign language equal using interpreters! Dependent, dependent, dependent. I don't like using a person to be with me to hear my personal discussions with others. I don't like relay hearing my personal information.....
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Can you clarify this?
 
Sign language equal using interpreters! Dependent, dependent, dependent.
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You got that right because I dont agree for d/Deaf children depend on interpreters all day in the classroom in mainstream. It s not good idea to depend on interpreters all day. So there! Why cant we have Deaf teachers in todays after all they were forced to go to Mainstream school with no ASL/ and many other issues that Deaf children has the right to know. ;)

No eye contact between teacher and student and human contact that must depend on those machine or devices that you cannot be who you are. Scoffs!

Thank you so much! ;)
Sweetmind
 
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ClearSky said:
Sign language equal using interpreters! Dependent, dependent, dependent. I don't like using a person to be with me to hear my personal discussions with others. I don't like relay hearing my personal information.....
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Think about this: ASL is finally becoming more of an accepted language class in hearing schools. That means more hearing people are learning it. ASL users don't need interpreters to talk to me, even though I am hearing. So, ASL does NOT mean using interpreters, not even with all hearing people.

And there are deaf people out there (Sweetmind is one of them) who can use oral speech without a cochlear implant or any hearing at all. Since totally deaf people can learn speech, even without hearing anything, why not teach both ASL and oral speech? If you do that, you can use ASL to explain English (the same way foreign languages are taught to English-speaking kids--they don't alter English to teach the foreign languages--instead, they use English to explain them.) And don't forget literacy too! The reason many fail could be that they are taught to depend on a hearing aid instead of LIPREADING. Then, when they can no longer hear with the aid, they can't lipread well enough to keep understanding it (or be forced to get a CI).

Look for the book Great Deaf Americans. It has the stories of hundreds of deaf people who succeeded without any cochlear implants or the ability to hear.
 
sr171soars said:
No matter how you look at it, the brain is the final arbitrator for how you perceive the world around you via your senses...sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste. You can live without them (your senses) but you cannot live without a brain... I'm sure you heard of the term "braindead"?
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yeah..

see, brain interpret
hear, brain interpret
touch, brain interpret
smell, brain interpret
taste, brain interpret

opposite of each, brain can't interpret.
 
Boult said:
yeah..

see, brain interpret
hear, brain interpret
touch, brain interpret
smell, brain interpret
taste, brain interpret

opposite of each, brain can't interpret.
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True... :D
 
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