EVIDENCE of being deaf with Hearing Aid device
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jag said:Thank you all for the welcome.
I am actually the one who has the CI. Been a month since it was put in my head. I'm really likeing it.
I also have an older daughter who has had HA's since 4th grade. She is trying to get into the trials for the middle ear implant. She's willing to try to help others by taking the chance that she might lose hearing in that ear. She figures theres' always a CI if it damages her hearing. She's an adult.
We do have problems getting the youngest (16) to actualy leave the HA's in. but that's another discussion. Would I choose to implant a small child. Maybe. The more I learn the more I think it's a good option. The earlier the better the chances of oral langage the less dependence needed on interpertors, the more independence they will actually have as an adult. To me that'd be a hugh plus.
I might even seriously concider giving the inner ear implant to the youngest if it gets approved. It's for us to decide. not the deaf community that she now particpates in.
Welcome aboard, Jag! Don't know how I overlooked your post and you only recently got an implant? Coolio! It's wonderful that your adult daughter is willing to participate in an experience that might damage her hearing -- she's a trail-blazer, that is for sure!
I'm wondering how you feel about your CI now AND your statement, "It's for us to decide. not the deaf community that she now participates in." That's SO RIGHT ON! The deaf community canNOT tell you what to do or not do with YOUR children!
You know, the deaf community had criticized me and my husband on our decision to send our deaf children into mainstream environment instead of to the state school for the deaf where my husband had attended all his educationial life. We had shot back, "Well, if YOUR children ARE deaf, would YOU send them to the state school???" This, for the most part, shut them up and told them it is NONE of THEIR business what we decide for OUR children.
Anxious to hear more from you about your new experiences!
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I have seen and talked to both of them, I can guarantee they are not the same person.
Porkie and Sweetmind look nothing alike. And if you knew them better you would see they *chat* nothing alike.
And when I say seen that is exactly what I mean. I have seen them both in person.
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TrippLA said:
They aren't sisters or daughter and mother. They are not related in anyway. I realize they post the same and sound alot alike but they aren't.
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I am not going to insist or debate it,
if you say they are two different persons I believe you. Besides what does it matter.
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if you say they are two different persons I believe you. Besides what does it matter.
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SxyPorkie said:
That's okay... You have your opinions and I have mine too... Just so you know, I went to an oral school until the age of 10 and then transferred to public (hearing) school in the 6th grade and graduated from hearing high school without any help from interpreters. And I have a lot of Deaf friends (oh, about 40 years now) and my husband is Deaf. And I am the only deaf person at work.
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SxyPorkie said:
Okay, if this will make you happy, then you and Sweetmind are not the same BUT my point is that you both have the same opinions on CIs. And not willing to open up your minds -- this is the 21st century and it is way past time for change, for better future for our deaf children.
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greema said:
Greema.... I am not completely against cochlear implants,, but i am against having babies and toddlers implanted while they are not able to make a choice or any decision....
Of course I have few friends who are CIers... three of them were failed.. other few had made it... they made their own choice to have it.. It is fine with me as long as they are happy...
Thanks!!!
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Sweetmind said:First of all I like to say that I have had said more than three times that I would appreciate not discussing CI issues only in this topic because it has nothing to do with it . The topic is about ALL Devices and how they do not help us to hear everything. I wont waste my time, money, and/or energy to conform deaf children into hearing children that u are wishing for. I dont appreciate this kind of audist attitude at all.
The reason is that everybody knows that they have to love themselves first before anyone else. So therefore why do you want to destroy Deaf children s true identity from the start with your very negative views about deafness? You have no right to cross anyone s boundaries, that is our Deaf rights.
Deaf children are able without DEVICES. Thats all there is to it. How many different ways must it be said before you understand?????
No wonder Deaf children have issues with emotional and mental abuse every single day that we are struggling to adapt into a hearing child, that is not right. Once you are deaf that is that. PERIOD! No one can fix our deafness so they should not be destroying our Deaf children 's residual hearing because doctors are not experts on deafness, it cannot be fixed. PERIOD!
How dare you think Audism people know everything about our deafness while you dont know what about ASL or what it is like to be deaf from the start in many ways because you pretend to be hearing and do not know the truth after you got so much influence by them. Do they respect you for who you are? You hate yourself and make other people hate our strong point of view about our Adaptation and true language that works for us to combine with BI and BI language. It is so amazing it works for their deaf and hearing children that I have seen. We are bit different from you with our Deafness and feel many things that we depend on adaptations that is very healthy. As for my hearing children that I respect their true identity as well as I accepted that since they were born. I taught them first language of ASL and deaf culture so that they can adapt to accept all kind of miniority people in this diverse world. So therefore Deaf children have the right to be part of this diverse world, and not hearing world only. Audist people keep trying to change us Deaf people and end up giving us a negative view of ourselves and cause mental and emotional problems.
They do this for hearing peoples sakes but it will not change us or how we feel about being deaf as is. I don't appreciate how some people are always trying to change us..they should walk in our shoes for a little while and then maybe they will have new found respect for the Deaf culture. They cannot change my mind..all that many deaf people have experienced in our life abuse by some people..they will never forget. Therefore deaf people have the ultimate right to be part of the diverse world that we exist in. You cant handle it. Some of you never learned ASL or were involved in deaf culture therefore you have no right to comment negatively, or be destructive. Also, some of you have no good faith in yourselves for being deaf and shouldnt be negative about yourselves. ASL and oralist extremists affect our deaf community for no reason. Some CI radicals are negative and think that WE are the failures but in all actuality they are. Two groups against us but we are strong and believe in ourselves against all odds because we can do anything except hear if you'll let us.
Another thing.... many people are under the impression that ASL is the reason why some of us cannot write english but it is because we were forced to lipread and listen with devices that set us back in our literacy. That is the whole reason. Now you can understand why devices Do NOT help us hear in many ways. Also SEE doesnt help us either because it is a gutter language. People dont even know how to commmunicate with us or understand us or our deaf thinking that is different from you.
The funny thing is.. My eyes tell me that many Deaf parents have no problem with hearing children even their friends because they are more open and being themselves. They think it s wonderful to use our hands and willing to learn / understand our Deaf cultures in different countries that is what they have in their true language that is somewhat part of ASL .. It was so amazing that combines with all kind of Deaf languages that fits into. It is such a beautiful language that we have in our hands that is our gifted communication that is very important for us to have our one true language that combines with Signed English for us to have a very successful literacy. It s all about SIGNS, READING, CREATIVE THINKING, and WRITING that we depends on our eyes (visual) , brain that fits our deafness without having any interference in our learning process. I want it back where it started from and when it was very successful.
While Hearing parents have been struggling with their Deaf children that are sign impaired and nelgect their importance of healthy emotional and mental issues. DEaf children should be allowed to be happy or adapt their own ways, not by hearing s ways. It doesn't make sense to have deaf kids be conformed into hearing individuals after all the never ending problems. And for Deaf oralists who complain that they cant communicate and feel bad for themselves so they turn into wanna be hearing people after all they don't feel good about themselves...What's up with that? It just doesn't make sense...this is a serious problem.
Also I would like to say that I am not strongly religious and dont believe in pushing religion on others or destroying their personal beliefs about God and the bible...but I am discouraged by the pro CIers who are atheists trying to use God in their posts as far as saying that deafness is a negative thing. That is manipulative and inappropriate. Where do these people get off bringing up God in their posts while not even believing in him? Especially Cloggy and Boult. They are very sacrilegious in this way. Now you understand why I strongly feel that CI plants purposely used negative comments about our deafness this is very evil and I cannot respect that. Thats is how they make the big $$$$$bucks$$$$. They dont care about the Deaf children or parents only the money their insurance companies are going to pay for the CI procedure.
Heavies from politics are shouting the message to businesses to be more marketable to make profits rise.
I know many hearing people do not know about us deaf people who can do anything except hear and the purpose of our deaf culture. We Deaf people and Deaf leaders have tried / worked so hard to educate and help you understand deaf issues...but to no avail because audist people destroyed the image of our deaf community and the people in it. They have all kinds of money and power. Thats an evil thing like a cult like CI corporations.
DEAF CHILDREN ARE BEING DESTROYED because they arent "good enough" for you. Where is the faith?
Sweetmind
Now it s proven.
http://www.deafeducation.org/stories/dearx.html
So there! You dont want to hear the truth thats the problem of your denials as usual. This Deaf girl is not the only one who said it as far as I know all along. There are many Deaf childrens complaint about CI device itself nowadays. Think twice before some people said this statement "With that, I cannot understand the anti-CI towards deaf children." People dont give a hoot after all they failed Deaf children with CI. It s wrong to keep your hands to cover your eyes that the truth comes out now. Ignore Deaf children s true inner soul and emotional / mentality abuse that needs to be stopped.
No more bullshit after all you made d/Deaf children miserable all along. It s not new thing because it has been going on and on for years and years that hasnt bit changed by their audist attitude people. Sighs!
You dont accept a Deaf children for the way they are from the start. I cannot understand that you are willing to contintue more problems that hasnt solved the problem from the old past up to now. Jeez! You are not helping Deaf children s literacy.
Ears do not think but Brain does think. Period!
Sweetmind
AND also, thats what I mean this is no difference between HA and CI devices that is the same behavior pattern goes on and on. You refused to accept the fact for d/Deaf chlidren who couldnt hear everything with Devices. 
It s very selfish for hearing parents who thinks of themselves first before d/Deaf children 's true adaptions, true identity, and many issues.
Have a good day!
Sweetmind
It s very selfish for hearing parents who thinks of themselves first before d/Deaf children 's true adaptions, true identity, and many issues.
Have a good day!
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