Does CI person need interpreter?

jackiesolorzano said:
It depends on the person some may need it and some may not.
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I've had a CI for about 6 months now, and it's working fantastically for me. However, I still use CART in school, and I still use ASL interpreting services elsewhere. I know a lot of CI users who use those, or who still use cued speech transliteration. So, it depends a lot on (a) how well the CI allows you to understand speech, (b) how familiar you are with working with an interpreter (if you're not comfortable doing it, your threshold for requesting such services may be higher), and (c) what's available to you (are you dealing with an institution that is willing to provide them, and in a geographic location where services of your preferred style are available).
 
ismi said:
I've had a CI for about 6 months now, and it's working fantastically for me. However, I still use CART in school, and I still use ASL interpreting services elsewhere. I know a lot of CI users who use those, or who still use cued speech transliteration. So, it depends a lot on (a) how well the CI allows you to understand speech, (b) how familiar you are with working with an interpreter (if you're not comfortable doing it, your threshold for requesting such services may be higher), and (c) what's available to you (are you dealing with an institution that is willing to provide them, and in a geographic location where services of your preferred style are available).
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From my experience in working with college level deaf students, your experience is more the norm than is the student who functions without accommodations at all.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
Im not yelling or ranting you.. excuse me. I'm here asking..
Can't you accept "DEAF" child?
That simple , reason to recognized "Big capital" word for DEAF. or you prefer tiny word "deaf".

That means your child is lost their identify..

I like to ask you, if suppose your child's ci broken.. will you dare have your child under the knife again and to replace it ?
You have to ask your child first before under the knife or.. you prefer decision not child's rights?
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Of course I will, and sorry to tell you, but so will she.
She might be deaf, she can hear and is enjoying every minute of that sense!!

Sadly, you cannot imagine that... your loss...

GalaxyAngel said:
Uh okay.. fine move on..

Seems you avoid all answer.. you don't want answer this..
officially you don't accept your child is DEAF.. you wanted solution the problem ci for your child and part of Hearing world.. why you're here part of Deaf Community? Doesn't make sense.. all you want push Deaf people out and take over this thread.. control..

That's too bad for you cannot have an interpreter provide for you needs.. You have to live and learn talk and listen!
Good Luck!

I understand.. then..
:bye:
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"Officially you don't accept your child is DEAF"... what is that about.... can you explain how my child is "officially DEAF"?? She's not even Deaf, let alone DEAF..!

You seem to have the idea that a deaf person is Deaf, even DEAF (whatever that means..) Sorry to inform you, but there are many deaf people that are not Deaf. (and don't even wish to be Deaf..)
 
isme and jillo, from what I recall off the top of my head there's a significent number of kids who are OK orally in one on one situtions, but require 'terps in the classroom.
 
rick48 said:
Where exactly are you meeting these parents? You teach in a school that uses ASL as the language of instruction and you have said many times that you prefer to socialize with the Deaf who use ASL so when and where are you getting this exposure to parents of children with ci with that attitude? I have met such parents and while they are indeed out there they are few and far between.

Is it perhaps you are misinterpreting their preference for their child to be in an educational setting where spoken language is the language of instruction with not wanting their children to be around children who sign?
Rick
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No, the parents have said that clearly. No misinterpretation. They said things like "I would rather my child be around hearing children or I dont want my child learning sign language so I am not interested in sending my child to ASL camps where other kids are learning sign language." How much more clear can that get?
 
GalaxyAngel said:
When you got a baby.. and surprised your child is Deaf.
Who telling you, there's have provided CI ?

Are you feeling bad your baby is Deaf.. you want your baby fixed.. and have cochlear implant.

Made me wondering about you..

Are you willing learn sign languages ?
or prefer not allow sign languages?
you prefer your child grow up better hearing community than Deaf Community because of isolation. That your reason ?
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I know that this is getting off topic, but I am going to address your rant. Here's my story. (I am going to try to break it down so that you can understand) ( so others please bear with my language)... My mother was Deaf and my father Deaf... my husband's family (all brothers sisters, nieces, nephews) Deaf..... We got married... Had a beaurtiful girl... Hearing.......... then , 4 years later, I pregant again-twins... one deaf and one hearing.... I saw how much my parents suffered... felt alone, noone to talk with at family parties..parents had hands slapped and tied when they did sign language in school (dorm)... my mother never saw her parents.. she lived in school, family back in New England... teachers in school took care of her...my father worked hard all his life.. struggled... my mother HATE hearing people... not trust them.... so when I had deaf son, they very happy. First, my husband and I plan to send our son to a bi-bi program.... we very open minded... Then someone said my son perfect for the CI... I thought to myself "never" will happen... but I open mind did research.. I was amazed how well some cihldren could hear with CI..... So after much talk, we decided that our son will get CI....My parents were very, very upset... I was told I not accept my son's deafness... but I told them I am parent and I will decide....I didin't care how much my son would hear, but I wanted him to have access to any sound- if possible. I know it's not a cure.. to me same as wearing glasses... So now , fast forward to 10 years..... My son is in a mainstream program.. doing very good job... He KNOWS he is deaf.. he accepts it.... it is a part of who is he, but does not define him. My Deaf father sees good beneift from my son with CI.. cannot believe he can do all he can... amazing says my father...I love my son very very much... I am lucky to be his mother.. I am blessed and I not change him for anything... All the ci did was help his hear sounds that before, he never would hear. He does not know sign language.. he learned some signs before, but stopped using... I encourage him, but he does not use at this time- only to talk with Grandpa or aunts and uncles...My son sees Deaf community all the time, but still loves his CI... He has best of both worlds... I have NEVER in 10 years, seen parents that try to resist Deaf community .... ( I know it happens, but myself never have seen before).. If anything, I have many many Deaf people come up to me in stores, in mall, and tell me I am bad mother and I should be ashamed...They see my son and insult to him... but I understand... but how you think hearing parent wiht no exposure to Deaf community feels if that happen to them?? Think about that...

Sorry for the language, but I wanted to get my point across.

Getting back to the topic... my niece, who was implanted at 10 years old, requires an interpreter in school, as well as a notetaker. On the other hand, my son who was implanted at 11 monthss- does not have an interpreter in school.. I think that there are many factors that decide wheter or not a CI person would need a terp.
 
doubletrouble said:
I know that this is getting off topic, but I am going to address your rant. Here's my story. (I am going to try to break it down so that you can understand) ( so others please bear with my language)... My mother was Deaf and my father Deaf... my husband's family (all brothers sisters, nieces, nephews) Deaf..... We got married... Had a beaurtiful girl... Hearing.......... then , 4 years later, I pregant again-twins... one deaf and one hearing.... I saw how much my parents suffered... felt alone, noone to talk with at family parties..parents had hands slapped and tied when they did sign language in school (dorm)... my mother never saw her parents.. she lived in school, family back in New England... teachers in school took care of her...my father worked hard all his life.. struggled... my mother HATE hearing people... not trust them.... so when I had deaf son, they very happy. First, my husband and I plan to send our son to a bi-bi program.... we very open minded... Then someone said my son perfect for the CI... I thought to myself "never" will happen... but I open mind did research.. I was amazed how well some cihldren could hear with CI..... So after much talk, we decided that our son will get CI....My parents were very, very upset... I was told I not accept my son's deafness... but I told them I am parent and I will decide....I didin't care how much my son would hear, but I wanted him to have access to any sound- if possible. I know it's not a cure.. to me same as wearing glasses... So now , fast forward to 10 years..... My son is in a mainstream program.. doing very good job... He KNOWS he is deaf.. he accepts it.... it is a part of who is he, but does not define him. My Deaf father sees good beneift from my son with CI.. cannot believe he can do all he can... amazing says my father...I love my son very very much... I am lucky to be his mother.. I am blessed and I not change him for anything... All the ci did was help his hear sounds that before, he never would hear. He does not know sign language.. he learned some signs before, but stopped using... I encourage him, but he does not use at this time- only to talk with Grandpa or aunts and uncles...My son sees Deaf community all the time, but still loves his CI... He has best of both worlds... I have NEVER in 10 years, seen parents that try to resist Deaf community .... ( I know it happens, but myself never have seen before).. If anything, I have many many Deaf people come up to me in stores, in mall, and tell me I am bad mother and I should be ashamed...They see my son and insult to him... but I understand... but how you think hearing parent wiht no exposure to Deaf community feels if that happen to them?? Think about that...

Sorry for the language, but I wanted to get my point across.

Getting back to the topic... my niece, who was implanted at 10 years old, requires an interpreter in school, as well as a notetaker. On the other hand, my son who was implanted at 11 monthss- does not have an interpreter in school.. I think that there are many factors that decide wheter or not a CI person would need a terp.
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I understand your completely.. You did right thing to ask your son what the best interest for your child have cochlear implant.. Even ask your child first before go ahead..

That what you concern about your background history strong genes DEAF passing around the children next genes more another Deaf Children.. Just you want break the ice and have them CI.. (sigh) I understand your point. Even too young not even recognize their Identity's.. when turn older enough understand and ask for cochlear implants.. that fine their choice.. not even PARENT FORCE a child implanted without their speak rights?
 
Anyway.. back topic related ci person need interpreter!

Benefits?
I don't know...
up to Ci need it or not.. their choice.. Not mine..
but don't point finger directly me..

which agBAD did that whole thing prefer LISTEN and TALK..
want them young children not allowed sign languages..

Sign languages is bad!
That what AGBAD say that even includes Parent did say that.. ( I wasn't refering YOU ALLLLLL) nope..
Some parent.. I mentioned!
Thank you!

Don't misunderstand w/me ok
 
deafdyke said:
isme and jillo, from what I recall off the top of my head there's a significent number of kids who are OK orally in one on one situtions, but require 'terps in the classroom.
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Absolutley, dd. Even the students I work with will often be okay sitting and having a one on one conversation with another student or a professor, but need accommdations in the classroom.
 
THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE COCHLEAR IMPLANT IN THE CLASSROOM

The Listening Center tracks educational progress of implanted children using an educational resource matrix (ERM). The matrix was developed on the basis of observations that movement into a mainstream classroom setting is often accompanied by an initial increase in the need for support services, such as interpreters and speech-language therapists. Follow-up of school-aged children with implants indicates that these children participate in mainstream education at a substantially higher rate and require diminishing levels of support services than do children with similar hearing who use hearing aids. Longterm tracking of educational outcomes of implanted children
continues as part of an ongoing assessment of cochlear implant rehabilitation.

The Listening Center at Johns Hopkins
 
doubletrouble said:
I know that this is getting off topic, but I am going to address your rant. Here's my story. (I am going to try to break it down so that you can understand) ( so others please bear with my language)... My mother was Deaf and my father Deaf... my husband's family (all brothers sisters, nieces, nephews) Deaf..... We got married... Had a beaurtiful girl... Hearing.......... then , 4 years later, I pregant again-twins... one deaf and one hearing.... I saw how much my parents suffered... felt alone, noone to talk with at family parties..parents had hands slapped and tied when they did sign language in school (dorm)... my mother never saw her parents.. she lived in school, family back in New England... teachers in school took care of her...my father worked hard all his life.. struggled... my mother HATE hearing people... not trust them.... so when I had deaf son, they very happy. First, my husband and I plan to send our son to a bi-bi program.... we very open minded... Then someone said my son perfect for the CI... I thought to myself "never" will happen... but I open mind did research.. I was amazed how well some cihldren could hear with CI..... So after much talk, we decided that our son will get CI....My parents were very, very upset... I was told I not accept my son's deafness... but I told them I am parent and I will decide....I didin't care how much my son would hear, but I wanted him to have access to any sound- if possible. I know it's not a cure.. to me same as wearing glasses... So now , fast forward to 10 years..... My son is in a mainstream program.. doing very good job... He KNOWS he is deaf.. he accepts it.... it is a part of who is he, but does not define him. My Deaf father sees good beneift from my son with CI.. cannot believe he can do all he can... amazing says my father...I love my son very very much... I am lucky to be his mother.. I am blessed and I not change him for anything... All the ci did was help his hear sounds that before, he never would hear. He does not know sign language.. he learned some signs before, but stopped using... I encourage him, but he does not use at this time- only to talk with Grandpa or aunts and uncles...My son sees Deaf community all the time, but still loves his CI... He has best of both worlds... I have NEVER in 10 years, seen parents that try to resist Deaf community .... ( I know it happens, but myself never have seen before).. If anything, I have many many Deaf people come up to me in stores, in mall, and tell me I am bad mother and I should be ashamed...They see my son and insult to him... but I understand... but how you think hearing parent wiht no exposure to Deaf community feels if that happen to them?? Think about that...

Sorry for the language, but I wanted to get my point across.

Getting back to the topic... my niece, who was implanted at 10 years old, requires an interpreter in school, as well as a notetaker. On the other hand, my son who was implanted at 11 monthss- does not have an interpreter in school.. I think that there are many factors that decide wheter or not a CI person would need a terp.
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WOW what a great story :ty::ty::ty:
 
GalaxyAngel said:
I understand your completely.. You did right thing to ask your son what the best interest for your child have cochlear implant.. Even ask your child first before go ahead..

That what you concern about your background history strong genes DEAF passing around the children next genes more another Deaf Children.. Just you want break the ice and have them CI.. (sigh) I understand your point. Even too young not even recognize their Identity's.. when turn older enough understand and ask for cochlear implants.. that fine their choice.. not even PARENT FORCE a child implanted without their speak rights?
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Did you read where she said that her son was implanted at 11 months.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
*sigh* Not again.. what I've said before..
scroll up again.. I've already respond to doubletrouble.

Im not here repeat here ok.

*sigh*
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Umm...you scroll up and read what you said:

GalaxyAngel said:
I understand your completely.. You did right thing to ask your son what the best interest for your child have cochlear implant.. Even ask your child first before go ahead..
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Jackie was merely stating that DoubleTrouble's son was implanted at 11 months old...HOW could she "ask" her son first before going ahead with surgery? :hmm:

DoubleTrouble asked her son NOW - who is at 12 or 13 years old probably, how he feels and tells how her son is doing with the CI, how her family accepting that her son was implanted.
 
shel90 said:
No, the parents have said that clearly. No misinterpretation. They said things like "I would rather my child be around hearing children or I dont want my child learning sign language so I am not interested in sending my child to ASL camps where other kids are learning sign language." How much more clear can that get?
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You can get a lot clearer. First, how many parents are you referring to as quite frankly still do not see your exposure to many parents who have deaf kids that are raising them oral only but I could be wrong.

As to the first part of your quote, I have often heard that quote or similar words and have used it myself but it is often in the context of explaining a preference for placement of a child in the mainstream setting. One of the many advantages, in addition to a superior education, that our comparision of the Deaf programs in our area versus the mainstream setting was that our child would be around hearing children daily who would be able to expose them to age appropriate language in both social and educational settings. It was not that we did not want our child around children simply because they used ASL.

The second part of your quote is not one I have heard, so please explain the context in which parents are telling you that they do not want to send their kids to ASL camps? It sounds as if you are trying to be deliberately argumentative with these parents.
Rick
 
rick48 said:
You can get a lot clearer. First, how many parents are you referring to as quite frankly still do not see your exposure to many parents who have deaf kids that are raising them oral only but I could be wrong.

As to the first part of your quote, I have often heard that quote or similar words and have used it myself but it is often in the context of explaining a preference for placement of a child in the mainstream setting. One of the many advantages, in addition to a superior education, that our comparision of the Deaf programs in our area versus the mainstream setting was that our child would be around hearing children daily who would be able to expose them to age appropriate language in both social and educational settings. It was not that we did not want our child around children simply because they used ASL.

The second part of your quote is not one I have heard, so please explain the context in which parents are telling you that they do not want to send their kids to ASL camps? It sounds as if you are trying to be deliberately argumentative with these parents.
Rick
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Every year, I work during the summer at different public schools teaching our students at their home school since the state wont allow us to have a summer program at our campus. So, I see deaf kids who go to schools there during the school year instead of ours who know little or no sign language. They come up to me or the other teachers who use sign language and seem so fascinated with them. At the end of the day, sometimes I meet their parents and I tell them that their children are interested in learning ASL and give them info about ASL camps. Some parents showed an interest while the others say that they dont want their children learning sign language so it was a no right away before I get a chance to describe those programs.

I dont argue with them but inside I do wish I can ask them why are they against the idea but I dont cuz it is not appropriate. Not my place but I still feel how I feel inside, of course.

I hope that is clear. If not, I can try to be more clear next time.
 
shel90 said:
Every year, I work during the summer at different public schools teaching our students at their home school since the state wont allow us to have a summer program at our campus. So, I see deaf kids who go to schools there during the school year instead of ours who know little or no sign language. They come up to me or the other teachers who use sign language and seem so fascinated with them. At the end of the day, sometimes I meet their parents and I tell them that their children are interested in learning ASL and give them info about ASL camps. Some parents showed an interest while the others say that they dont want their children learning sign language so it was a no right away before I get a chance to describe those programs.

I dont argue with them but inside I do wish I can ask them why are they against the idea but I dont cuz it is not appropriate. Not my place but I still feel how I feel inside, of course.

I hope that is clear. If not, I can try to be more clear next time.
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One thing I have found is most children are fascinated with ASL. It does not matter if they are deaf or not. One of students described it as new way to talk. Alot of children are very visual and pick up on new things quickly. When I taught regular education, the students and I would learn some signs. The children could not wait to learn more, they checked books out and some signed up for classes. They would sign to each other at lunch instead of talk. It is a fascinating and wonderful language. I still have some who are taking classes and know so much more than me.
 
vallee said:
One thing I have found is most children are fascinated with ASL. It does not matter if they are deaf or not. One of students described it as new way to talk. Alot of children are very visual and pick up on new things quickly. When I taught regular education, the students and I would learn some signs. The children could not wait to learn more, they checked books out and some signed up for classes. They would sign to each other at lunch instead of talk. It is a fascinating and wonderful language. I still have some who are taking classes and know so much more than me.
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I agree so I dont understand why some of those children's parents say that they dont want their children learning sign language. It makes me want to scream. Also, those children couldnt communicate with my students and I think that is sad cuz they are all deaf.
 
shel90 said:
Every year, I work during the summer at different public schools teaching our students at their home school since the state wont allow us to have a summer program at our campus. So, I see deaf kids who go to schools there during the school year instead of ours who know little or no sign language. They come up to me or the other teachers who use sign language and seem so fascinated with them. At the end of the day, sometimes I meet their parents and I tell them that their children are interested in learning ASL and give them info about ASL camps. Some parents showed an interest while the others say that they dont want their children learning sign language so it was a no right away before I get a chance to describe those programs.

I dont argue with them but inside I do wish I can ask them why are they against the idea but I dont cuz it is not appropriate. Not my place but I still feel how I feel inside, of course.

I hope that is clear. If not, I can try to be more clear next time.
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No, I get it now thanks for taking the time and patience to explain it to me. Seems like you are just offering them an alternative to think about, also realize that just as you are not saying all you want to say to the parents niether might they be saying all they want to say to you. Some may just be rude and/or ignorant and others just don't feel it is the time or place to fully explain their thinking.
Feel better,
Rick
 
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