Does CI person need interpreter?

shel90 said:
I have only met one CIer who had that attitude that u are speaking of. The others are fine and they dont hide their CIs. What I encounter are the parents who insist that their children be around hearing children rather than other deaf children especially those who sign. That is very hurtful to me because they are teaching their children to grow up with that attitude.
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Where exactly are you meeting these parents? You teach in a school that uses ASL as the language of instruction and you have said many times that you prefer to socialize with the Deaf who use ASL so when and where are you getting this exposure to parents of children with ci with that attitude? I have met such parents and while they are indeed out there they are few and far between.

Is it perhaps you are misinterpreting their preference for their child to be in an educational setting where spoken language is the language of instruction with not wanting their children to be around children who sign?
Rick
 
Drew's Dad said:
Shel, it's not always professionals that are causing the misunderstanding. Much of it, imo, is just that people don't understand, period. A friend of Drew's who also has bilateral implants was covered in a radio story within the last year.

His parents talked to the person doing the interview for over an hour, and explained everything. They answered questions on the air, described his education and surgery, etc. Everything went well and I suppose the listeners learned a lot.

However, at the very end of the interview the host says "And this little boy will never know that he was deaf."

The parents wanted to strangle this host. Not only is it the dumbest remarks ever made, but it was directly contrary to things they mentioned, such as him asking for help putting the CI's on, etc.

This host just doesn't get it, I assume because she has never been around deaf and hoh people before. Sometimes people just don't hear what is said...so I don't think it is always the professional's fault.

Kind of like a couple of my "friends" who listened to everything about Drew for several months (evidently they didn't listen very closely) and then once they saw him with his CI's on asked "so will he have to wear those forever"?

That ticked me off partly because it's an idiotic question, secondly because he said it in a condescending voice, and third because if he really cared or was listening he would have known the answer. He just doesn't get it and probably tells people he knows that Drew is "cured", even though that has never come out of my mouth
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Absolutely agreed!!!
 
Reba said:
The teacher should have written back a note saying:

"If you promise not to tell me how to teach, I promise not to tell you how to do surgery."
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That's good one :lol: ..
 
Angel said:
I don't understand who set what policy?
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Who sets policy as far as education is concerned, and what programs are available, etc. Who sets policy as far as work place accommodations? Who sets policy regarding what information is released to parents at the time of diagnosis, and how that information is presented?
 
jillio said:
Who sets policy as far as education is concerned, and what programs are available, etc. Who sets policy as far as work place accommodations? Who sets policy regarding what information is released to parents at the time of diagnosis, and how that information is presented?
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What does this have to do with his post? that's what I don't understand or maybe you're not explaining it clearly for me to understand where you're coming from on this.
 
Post # 77, and post #80, as well as shel's post regarding the surgeon telling parents not to expose their child to sign, and Reba's reply "I promise not to tell you how to do surgery, if you promise not to tell me how to teach." Who sets those policies is relevent to the topic. Those policies are not set by deaf people for deaf people, but by hearing people for deaf people. Therefore, they are set onwhat hearing people think that deaf people need moreso than on what deaf people say they need.
 
Drew's Dad said:
Whether a CI is a "miracle device" or whether CI's allow deaf persons to function or "be back" in the hearing world does not have anything to do with whether a person is deaf or not.

You can be deaf and not "in" the hearing world, and you can be deaf and be "in" the hearing world - or both. Cochlear implants help some people to be what they consider to be more "in" the hearing world.
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you're gone too far brainwashed by agbell or doctor, aren't you?
Why can't you accept your child is DEAF?
you're cry your child is DEAF.. you want your child is "FIXED"
 
agBAD doesn't approve an interpreter provide you CI users... reason want you LEARN and LISTEN AND TALK!!!
SAD!
By Identifying families whose cases can help establish law, ABAD seeks to raise public awareness that children with hearing loss should have the opportunity to LEARN TO LISTEN AND TALK, and that both are the early intervention and education systems should support family's choices. WHO SAY THAT??? it's frigg'n AGBAD!
 
What is the goal of the situation?

Developing aural/oral language skills?

Gaining information or training in a topic?

Two-way communication?


In a school setting, is it the responsibility and goal of the school to improve the aural/oral abilities of the student who has a CI? Or is it the school's responsibility to provide a general education to all students equally?

If education is the goal, then the school has to do whatever it takes (within reason) to provide access to the education. That usually means providing a terp or FM system or CART, etc.

But is it the school's responsibility to enforce the language mode goals of the child's doctor or parents (if their goals are the same)? What if the teachers determine that the emphasis on aural/oral abilities is interfering with the goals of educating?

I don't know the answers. :dunno:

Just asking those who do know.
 
jillio said:
Post # 77, and post #80, as well as shel's post regarding the surgeon telling parents not to expose their child to sign, and Reba's reply "I promise not to tell you how to do surgery, if you promise not to tell me how to teach." Who sets those policies is relevent to the topic. Those policies are not set by deaf people for deaf people, but by hearing people for deaf people. Therefore, they are set onwhat hearing people think that deaf people need moreso than on what deaf people say they need.
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Ah I got it now, sorry I got confused.
 
Reba said:
What is the goal of the situation?

Developing aural/oral language skills?

Gaining information or training in a topic?

Two-way communication?


In a school setting, is it the responsibility and goal of the school to improve the aural/oral abilities of the student who has a CI? Or is it the school's responsibility to provide a general education to all students equally?

If education is the goal, then the school has to do whatever it takes (within reason) to provide access to the education. That usually means providing a terp or FM system or CART, etc.

But is it the school's responsibility to enforce the language mode goals of the child's doctor or parents (if their goals are the same)? What if the teachers determine that the emphasis on aural/oral abilities is interfering with the goals of educating?

I don't know the answers. :dunno:

Just asking those who do know.
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It is the school's responsibility to provide access to the academic curriculum. They are not bound to reinforce communication choice, but communication choice must be considered when providing accommodation. Speech therapy is considered to be an adjunct service.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
you're gone too far brainwashed by agbell or doctor, aren't you?
Why can't you accept your child is DEAF?
you're cry your child is DEAF.. you want your child is "FIXED"
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Drew's Dad said:
I haven't a clue where this is coming from.
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Sometimes there does not seem to be any need of a reason..
Just try to ignore the shouting & ranting..

Our children and not Deaf. They are deaf and they can hear.!
 
Drew's Dad said:
I haven't a clue where this is coming from.
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When you got a baby.. and surprised your child is Deaf.
Who telling you, there's have provided CI ?

Are you feeling bad your baby is Deaf.. you want your baby fixed.. and have cochlear implant.

Made me wondering about you..

Are you willing learn sign languages ?
or prefer not allow sign languages?
you prefer your child grow up better hearing community than Deaf Community because of isolation. That your reason ?
 
Cloggy said:
Sometimes there does not seem to be any need of a reason..
Just try to ignore the shouting & ranting..

Our children and not Deaf. They are deaf and they can hear.!
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Im not yelling or ranting you.. excuse me. I'm here asking..
Can't you accept "DEAF" child?
That simple , reason to recognized "Big capital" word for DEAF. or you prefer tiny word "deaf".

That means your child is lost their identify..

I like to ask you, if suppose your child's ci broken.. will you dare have your child under the knife again and to replace it ?
You have to ask your child first before under the knife or.. you prefer decision not child's rights?
 
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